Comments on: Ugotrade Interview with Philip Rosedale at SLCC: “Bigger than the web” and Second Life in Africa http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/ Augmented Realities at the Edge of the Network Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:12:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.40 By: Lem Skall http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-2220 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:18:46 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-2220 And there it goes. No time to wrap our heads around it. The website is there, the rules are there (whatever they mean, they mean something to LL and that’s what will apply anyway). No discussion, no dialogue. No listening.

I thought that Philip’s keynote at the SLCC was very good. But even then, I thought, it was all just a speech for now and what was going to matter was the actions to follow. “I think as a company we’re at a transition point.” Are we there yet? Voice, IDV, third-party providers, all within a few weeks, that still looks like the “Lab” way of doing things. “I just want to say that we hear you.” Hear us maybe, but is LL actively listening to us? Are we having a dialogue?

Shouldn’t we be involved? Shouldn’t we have a say in these decisions? The TOS does not say that. But we certainly expect it anyway. LL does not deny it and keeps feeding that expectation. They don’t tell us to bugger off and that it’s none of our business, they keep telling us instead that it is “our world” and that they “hear” us.

I can’t say yet whether this is going to be good or bad. But not having a dialogue before the decision was made makes it wrong anyway.

]]> By: Lem Skall http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-2108 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:23:57 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-2108 Ooops, should have paid more attention to the details. Only “larger companies of operators” at first, so no gambling back soon :). Still, as a matter of principle, what will be the legal responsibilities of LL and what will be the legal responsibilities of the server operators?

]]> By: Lem Skall http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-2107 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:42:31 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-2107 People running their own servers sooner than we thought. That’s going to be very interesting, I think it will change a lot of things. How is that going to affect the TOS and all the legal issues? Will anyone be allowed to run gambling on their own off-shore servers, for instance? We’ll probably have the definitive answer only once that happens, but it’s certainly going to be interesting. I can’t wait.

Thanks Tara for this interview.

]]> By: Marat http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1906 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:58:10 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-1906 I’d be really interested to see Second Life offer a different way of putting money in besides credit cards. Something like the Steve Case GratisCard that was competitive on interchange fees. Especially for merchants, who should be an important part of growing SL. It’s a complicated

It’s an issue I consult on for a merchant group in DC. If it’s a new issue to you, I highly recommend checking out http://unfaircreditcardfees.com

]]> By: Rich Interchange Formats for Objects in Second Life « The ARCH http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1860 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:36:41 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-1860 [...] the full interview HERE. No Comments so far Leave a comment RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI [...]

]]> By: Aleister Kronos http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1837 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:36:08 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-1837 Very interesting interview…
Mr R seems to be talking about an expanded Second Life, rather than web3D, at least in the near-term. I know LL have to move fast if they are to grab the high ground of web3D, but I find the NYC analogy is flawed. SL has seen meteoric growth is the last 18 months, but it is also true that the actual number of distinct individuals (ie not alts) staying in SL beyond a couple of weeks is far lower. It’s almost like saying Heathrow Airport (and the suburbs around it) is a big city because it has a population of 67 million. No, most of these people simply pass thru. I hope retention rates go up – but right now vitual worlds are still small, and being the biggest of the tinies is not such a big deal.

Over the horizon we have Entropia’s grand schemes for China; then there’s HiPiHi and its recent statements over standardising and interoperating 3D worlds:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/

Linden Lab have to press on with their vision thang… but unless they’re looking at (even if not talking publicly about) 3D world interoperability, then I think they are in danger of ending with an exotic, cut-off variant of web3D.

And remember, their big chums in the IT industry are not only in SL. The infrastructure guys are building their own variants (“3D intranet”) and the software guys are seeking markets in other VWs.

In the interoperable 3D world (and I am convinced that is the end game), where do LL get their monies?

]]> By: port7 » Blog Archive » SL, whats the future? http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1799 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:55:39 +0000 http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/08/29/ugotrade-interview-with-philip-rosedale-at-slcc-bigger-than-the-web-and-second-life-in-africa/#comment-1799 [...] Check it out [...]

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