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		<title>Augmented World Expo 2013:  It&#8217;s a wrap!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Augmented World Expo 2013 was really an amazing experience. I&#8217;m co-founder and co-organizer of the conference, along with Ori Inbar, so it has meant a lot to me to see our event grow over the last four years, and thrilling to make such a big splash this year.Â  There were 1,163 attendees, and the expo [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://augmentedworldexpo.com/" target="_blank">Augmented World Expo 2013</a> was really an amazing experience.  I&#8217;m co-founder and co-organizer of the conference, along with Ori Inbar, so it has meant a lot to me to see our event grow over the last four years, and thrilling to make such a big splash this year.Â  There were 1,163 attendees, and the expo show cased an ecosystem of emerging technologies &#8211; augmented reality, gesture interaction, eyewear, wearables, and connected hardware ofÂ  many stripes, that mark the beginning of natural computing entering the mainstream.  It was a unique opportunity to get up close and personal with what it feels like to be an augmented human in an augmented world! </p>
<p>Videos of AWE 2013â€²s 35 hours of educational sessions and inspirational keynotes are now available on <strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AugmentedRealityOrg/videos?view=0&amp;shelf_index=0&amp;sort=dd&amp;tag_id=" target="_self">our YouTube channel</a></strong>.  I am sharing <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GxVQREssdY">my own talk</a> (my slides are also up <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/TishShute/augmented-humansaugmentedworld">on slideshare here</a>), and a few of my favorites in this post, but there are far to many to post here, so please browse further on the Augmented World Expo youtube channel.</p>
<p>One notable high point of AWE2013, for me, was the showcase sponsored by <a href="http://www.meta-view.com/about">Meta</a>, a startup developing the first device allowing visualization and interaction with 3D virtual objects in the real world using your hands.  It was made possible by the generous contribution from the private collections of Paul Travers, Dan Cui, Steven Feiner, Steve Mann, and Chris Grayson, and passionate volunteers who are helping advance the industry.  Sean Hollister of The Verge did this excellent  report on the eyewear showcase <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/9/4409940/35-years-of-wearable-computing-history-at-augmented-world-expo-2013">35 years of wearable computing history at Augmented World Expo 2013<br />
</a>  Also for more on Meta see <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57584739-76/meta-glasses-bring-3d-and-your-hands-into-the-picture/">this article by Dan Farber</a>.</p>
<p>My colleagues at <a href="http://www.syntertainment.com/">Syntertainment</a>, Will Wright, Avi Bar-Zeev, Jason Shankel, and LaurenElliott all gave great talks.  Ironically, weâ€™re not building augmented reality apps or H/W.  We all just happen to continue to be very interested in the field. Â </p>
<p>Thank you to everyone for supporting the event! </p>
<p>The press coverage was truly extensive:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/9/4410406/in-the-shadow-of-google-glass-at-augmented-world-expo-2013">In the shadow of Google Glass, an augmented reality industry revs its engines<br />
</a>The Verge, Sean Hollister, June 9, 2013,Â <a href="http://topsy.com/www.theverge.com/2013/6/9/4410406/in-the-shadow-of-google-glass-at-augmented-world-expo-2013">271 Tweets</a></p>
<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57588128-76/the-next-big-thing-in-tech-augmented-reality/">The next big thing in tech: Augmented reality<br />
</a>CNET, Dan Farber, June 7, 2013<br />
Pick up onÂ <a href="http://currentnewsdaily.com/the-next-big-thing-in-tech-augmented-reality/">Current News Daily<br />
</a><a href="http://topsy.com/news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57588128-76/the-next-big-thing-in-tech-augmented-reality/">350 Tweets</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thepersuaders.libsyn.com/awe-2013-conference-report-augmented-reality-and-marketing">AWE 2013 Conference Report: Augmented Reality and Marketing<br />
</a>The Persuaders Marketing Podcast onÂ Dublin City FM, June 23, 2013</p>
<p><a title="AR Dirt Podcast â€“ Episode 26 â€“ Ori Inbar AWE2013 Extravaganza Recap" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.ardirt.com/general-news/ar-dirt-podcast-episode-26-ori-inbar-awe2013-extravaganza-recap.html">AR Dirt Podcast â€“ Ori Inbar AWE2013 Extravaganza Recap<br />
</a>AR Dirt by Joseph Rampolla,Â June 18, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/9/4409940/35-years-of-wearable-computing-history-at-augmented-world-expo-2013">35 years of wearable computing history at Augmented World Expo 2013<br />
</a>The Verge, Sean Hollister, June 9, 2013<br />
<a href="http://topsy.com/www.theverge.com/2013/6/9/4409940/35-years-of-wearable-computing-history-at-augmented-world-expo-2013">7 Tweets</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2013/06/augmented-reality-bruce-sterling-keynote-at-augmented-world-expo-2013/">Augmented Reality: Bruce Sterling, keynote at Augmented World Expo 2013<br />
</a>Wired, Bruce Sterling, June 9, 2013<br />
<a href="http://topsy.com/www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2013/06/augmented-reality-bruce-sterling-keynote-at-augmented-world-expo-2013/">9 Tweets</a></p>
<p><a href="http://doc-ok.org/?p=598">On the road for VR: Augmented World Expo 2013<br />
</a>Doc-Ok, Staff, June 7, 2013<br />
<a href="http://topsy.com/trackback?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdoc-ok.org%2F%3Fp%3D598">3 Tweets</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wassom.com/my-interview-from-augmented-world-expo-2013-video.html">My Interview from Augmented World Expo 2013 [VIDEO] </a><a href="http://wassom.com/">Wassom.com</a>, Brian Wassom, June 7, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://zenfri.com/2013/06/augmented-world-expo/">Augmented World Expo</a><br />
ZenFri, Staff, June 7, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fbnsantos.com/?p=9634">AWE2013: Hardware for an augmented world</a><br />
FBNSantos.com, Felipe Neves Dos Santos, June 6, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://investorplace.com/2013/06/augmented-reality-will-be-the-new-reality/">Augmented Reality Will Be the New Reality</a><br />
InvestorPlace, Brad Moon, June 6, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techhive.com/article/2040837/wearable-computing-pioneer-steve-mann-who-watches-the-watchmen-.html">Wearable computing pioneer Steve Mann: Who watches the watchmen?</a><br />
TechHive, Armando Rodriguez, June 6, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=9127769">Expo puts augmented reality in the limelight</a><br />
ABC 7 News, Jonathan Bloom, June 5, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dvice.com/2013-6-5/these-oled-microdisplays-are-future-augmented-reality">These OLED microdisplays are the future of augmented reality</a><br />
DVICE, Evan Ackerman, June 5, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/visualized-history-of-augmented-and-virtual-reality-eyewear/?utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_source=Feed_Classic&amp;utm_campaign=Engadget">Visualized: a history of augmented and virtual reality eyewear</a><br />
Engadget, Michael Gorman, June 5, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.papitv.com/wikitude-announces-wikitude-studio-and-in-house-developed-ir-tracking-engine">Wikitude announces Wikitude Studio and in-house developed IR &amp; Tracking engine</a><br />
PapiTV, KC Leung, June 5, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/personal/2013/06/05/augmented-reality-expo-google-glass/2392769/">Augmented reality expo aims for sci-fi future today</a><br />
USA Today, Marco della Cava, June 5, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2013/06/augmented-reality-high-dynamic-range-hdr-video-image-processing-for-digital-glass/">Augmented Reality: High Dynamic Range (HDR) Video Image Processing For Digital Glass</a><br />
Wired, Bruce Sterling, June 5, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20130604/will-wright-at-augmented-reality-conference-dont-augment-reality-decimate-it/">Will Wright at Augmented Reality Conference: Donâ€™t Augment Reality, Decimate It</a><br />
AllThingsD, Eric Johnson, June 4, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57587672-76/philip-rosedales-second-life-with-high-fidelity/">Philip Rosedaleâ€™s Second Life with High Fidelity</a><br />
CNET, Dan Farber, June 4, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040801/google-glass-competitors-vie-for-attention-as-industry-grows.html">Google Glass competitors vie for attention as industry grows</a><br />
PC World, Zack Miners for IDG News Service, June 4, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://daqri.com/press_posts/press-release-4d-augmented-reality-leader-daqri-announces-15-million-financing-2/#.Ua-RjNhNuSo">4D Augmented Reality Leader Daqri Announces $15 Million Financing</a><br />
Press Release, June 4, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techzone360.com/topics/techzone/articles/2013/06/03/340432-crowdoptic-powers-lancome-virtual-gallery-app-crowd-powered.htm">CrowdOptic Powers Lancome Virtual Gallery App, Crowd-powered Heat Map</a><br />
TechZone 360, Peter Bernstein, June 3, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.craveculture.net/2013/06/augmented-humans-now/">Augmented humans, enhanced happiness?</a><br />
Crave Culture, Angelica Weihs, June 2, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metaio.com/press/press-release/2013/metaio-vuzix-to-showcase-ar-ready-smart-glasses-at-the-2013-augmented-world-expo/">Metaio &amp; Vuzix to Showcase AR-Ready Smart Glasses at the 2013 Augmented World Expo</a><br />
Press Release, May 30, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://qz.com/89467/four-ways-augmented-reality-will-invade-your-life-in-2013/">Four ways augmented reality will invade your life in 2013</a><br />
Quartz, Rachel Feltman, May 30, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2013/05/augmented-reality-augmented-world-expo-is-next-week/">Augmented Reality: Augmented World Expoâ„¢ is next week</a><br />
Wired, Bruce Sterling, May 28, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.prweb.com/releases/candy-lab/augmented-reality/prweb10763283.htm">Strike it Rich with Cachetown and AWE 2013 Playing the Gold Rush 49â€™er Challenge In Augmented Reality</a><br />
Press Release, May 24, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://interact.stltoday.com/pr/lifestyle/PR052413071613074">Local Community College Student Headed to Silicon Valley to Learn More about Augmented Reality</a><br />
St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Staff, May 24, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnet.com.au/explore-an-intricate-labyrinth-with-smartphone-ar-339344350.htm">Explore an intricate labyrinth with smartphone AR</a><br />
CNET Australia, Michelle Starr, May 21, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/1130672-dartmouth-firm-lands-super-app">Dartmouth firm lands super app</a><br />
Herald Business, Remo Zaccagna, May 21, 2013</p>
<p><a href="http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/05/17/augmented-world-expo-2013-the-future-of-augmented-reality/">Augmented World Expo 2013â€“The Future of Augmented Reality</a><br />
Silicon Angle, Saroj Kar, May 17, 2013</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Metanomics host Robert Bloomfield interviewed Second Life founder and Chairman of the Board, Philip Rosedale, at the Second Life Community Convention in Tampa, Florida.Â  The Rosedale interview is available here (pictures above are Philip Rosedale and his avatar). Rosedale talked about Linden Lab&#8217;s long standing commitment to open source and open protocols in one segment [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://metanomics.net/19-sep-2008/philip-rosedale-interview-and-expert-reactions">Metanomics</a> host Robert Bloomfield interviewed Second Life founder and Chairman of the Board, Philip Rosedale, at the Second Life Community Convention in Tampa, Florida.Â  <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/article/www.metanomics.net');" href="http://www.metanomics.net/19-sep-2008/philip-rosedale-interview-and-expert-reactions">The Rosedale interview is available here</a> (pictures above are Philip Rosedale and his avatar).</p>
<p>Rosedale talked about Linden Lab&#8217;s long standing commitment to open source and open protocols in one segment of this interview and Robert asked me to post a brief reaction. The full interview covers a wide range of topics and Robert has gotten responses on different parts of the interview from <a href="http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/09/philip-linden-o.html#more" target="_blank">Wagner James Au</a>, <a href="http://www.christianrenaud.com/weblog/2008/09/metanomics-and-rosedales-future-vision.html#more" target="_blank">Christian Renaud</a>, <a href="http://npirl.blogspot.com/2008/09/reacting-to-rosedale-on-ll-press.html" target="_blank">â€˜Bettina Tizzy,â€™</a> <a href="http://www.kzero.co.uk/blog/?p=2501" target="_blank">Nic Mitham</a> and <a href="http://dusanwriter.com/?p=941" target="_blank">â€˜Dusan Writer,â€™</a> and <a href="http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/09/22/rosedale-interview-reaction/" target="_blank">Benjamin Duranske</a> as well.</p>
<h3>A System Without an Owner is A beautiful Thing</h3>
<p>While Philip Rosedale&#8217;s comments may not, at first glance, appear to be saying anything new, they are in fact a very cogent summary of the important and crucial role Linden Lab has played, and continues to play, in moving virtual worlds out of their walled gardens and bringing them closer to that beautiful thing &#8211; a system without an owner.</p>
<p>Only a system without an owner can unleash, for virtual world technology, the kind of creative, world changing power that we have seen on the 2D web from http and html.Â  Anyone with even a vague idea of the history of the internet understands that it is only through openess, open source, open protocols, open standards, and open APIs, that we will get from here &#8211; the alpha days of virtual world technology, to their coming of age of age as a mainstream phenomena.</p>
<p>It is very much to the credit of Linden Lab that, as Rosedale says, they have never been afraid of openess: &#8220;I donâ€™t think that the open grid will impact our revenues any more than open sourcing the client,&#8221;Â  he says. While there have been criticisms of licensing choices and ways Linden Lab handles contributions back to their viewer from the community, I think that overall Linden Lab has made very important and visionary moves, first to open source, and now to open protocols.</p>
<p>Open sourcing the viewer at a relatively early point in Second Life&#8217;s development created an enormous opportunity for the rapid development of an open source re-engineering of the server side, <a href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">OpenSim</a>.Â  OpenSim with the Second Life viewer is the most complete, open implementation of a persistent virtual world.Â  Without the head start from the open source Second Life viewer, and the connection to the thriving developer community of Second Life, the light speed progress of OpenSim would have been considerably more difficult.</p>
<p>Now OpenSim is getting closer to breaking free from the Second Life viewer. And, standard messaging protocols between client and server are, perhaps, the next step. Rob Smart, IBM, discussed this with me recently (see my upcoming interview with Rob Smart, &#8220;Web 2.0 Made Easy in OpenSim,&#8221; and see <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3ekl2d" target="_blank">his post by this title</a> for more).</p>
<p>As, Rob Smart, IBM, notes, &#8220;If, for example, the messages that went between your SecondLife client and the OpenSim/SecondLife servers was a standard protocol which had a bunch of libraries for a variety of languages, then you could start logging into VW servers from all kinds of clients.&#8221;Â  (for more see my upcoming post, &#8220;Interview with Rob Smart, IBM: Web 2.0 Made easy for OpenSim.&#8221;</p>
<h3>Open Standards Will Emerge From Rough Consensus and Working Code</h3>
<p>There are some that subscribe to the view that standards will arise in a virgin birth from an ivory tower, i.e., professors and captains of industry, removed from open source developer communities, will produce long documents that describe all of the fields, and every one of the messages, and all the APIs in detail prior to implementation.</p>
<p>But as, David Levine, IBM. Mike Mazur, 3Di, Mic Bowman, Intel, <a href="http://justincc.wordpress.com/">Justin Clark-Casey</a>, and <a href="http://www.adamfrisby.com/blog/">Adam Frisby</a>, Deep Think/<a href="http://www.sinewavecompany.com/" target="_blank">Sine Wave</a> cogently argued, on the &#8220;Open Source and Interoperable Virtual Worlds&#8221; panel at the Virtual Worlds Conference and Expo in LA, this top down approach to standards, (or &#8220;vapor standards&#8221;), does not, typically, produce good results. For more on the the virtues of creating standards from &#8220;rough consensus and working code&#8221; as opposed to top down there is a full recording of the LA panel <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/09/09/open-source-and-interoperability-will-take-virtual-worlds-mainstream/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Thus, in my view, Linden Lab&#8217;s current focus on open protocols, <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/07/31/the-open-grid-beta-the-first-step-to-interoperable-virtual-worlds/" target="_blank">OpenGrid</a> (for more see <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/07/31/the-open-grid-beta-the-first-step-to-interoperable-virtual-worlds/" target="_blank">here</a>), and interoperability is another key step towards the creation of open standards for virtual worlds. And Linden Lab are again leading the way in creating an environment that fosters innovation.</p>
<p>OpenGrid creates a testing ground where protocols can be worked out, and it enables the kind of heterogeneous ecosystem to develop that can nurture the creation of standards. IÂ  agree with Rosedale when he says content makers will have an important role in driving interoperability and standards. The creation of standards is certainly a social as well as technical process. And as Rosedale notes content creators will have compelling reasons to move their content around in an open metaverse.</p>
<p>David Levine&#8217;s (IBM), described in detail in LA (again see <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/audio/OSInteroppanel.mp3" target="_blank">recording here</a>) the importance of interoperability and parallel innovation  for the creation of standards. OpenSim has already produced an extraordinary amount of innovation, <a href="http://www.realxtend.org/" target="_blank">realXtend</a>, <a href="http://tribalnet.se/" target="_blank">Tribal Media</a> and more. Also see my interview with <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/09/15/interview-with-mic-bowman-intel-the-future-of-virtual-worlds/" target="_blank">Mic Bowman, Intel</a>, for more on the role of open source/open standards in fostering innovation and in moving virtual worlds into &#8220;the fabric of everday computing.&#8221;</p>
<p>While Linden Lab only have a small team working on OpenGrid, it is a vital one.Â  And, with MarkLentczner (<a href="http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Zero_Linden" target="_blank">Zero Linden </a>in Second Life) leading the <a href="http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Architecture_Working_Group" target="_blank">Architectual Working Group</a> for Linden Lab, and a collaboration with IBM led by David Levine (<a href="http://zhaewry.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Zha Ewry</a> in Second Life) driving the interoperability effort, plus the OpenGrid project, Linden lab has a high powered, agile, lean, machine working for an open future.</p>
<p>So with no more ado, here it is: Robert Bloomfield&#8217;s interview with Philip Rosedale!</p>
<h3>Rosedale on Open Sim:Â  Pandoraâ€™s Box Was Already Open</h3>
<p><strong>Introduction from Robert Bloomfield</strong></p>
<p>Naturally, a major topic of my interview with Philip Rosedale was on the implications of OpenSim and the Open Grid project, which both involve creating open source server-side implementations of virtual worlds that can replicate Second Lifeâ€™s funcationality.Â  As a relative newcomer to this corner of the tech industry, I still find myself asking what a company would essentially create its own competitor.Â  Here is what Philip had to say; I have asked Tish Shute of UgoTrade to comment, as one of the people who has covered the OpenSim/OpenGrid movement with more detail and passion than just about anyone.</p>
<p>PHILIP ROSEDALE: I just really hold true to the strategic belief that thereâ€™s going to be a tremendous amount of consolidation and interconnection between these worlds because the content development process is so challenging that the content developers are going to push us all together. Theyâ€™re going to say, â€œGive me a file format. Give me an interchange format. And let me move that chair from this grid to that grid. Iâ€™ve got to be able to do that because Iâ€™ve got a customer here who wants to buy it.â€ And so I think that that consolidation is going to happen, and itâ€™s going to happen earlier than people would have thought.</p>
<p>ROBERT BLOOMFIELD:Â  And this is looking at the success, the energy around OpenSim, open grid.</p>
<p>PHILIP ROSEDALE:Â  The energy, yeah. I think, at this point, weâ€™ve got an appropriate level of energy â€“ I think thatâ€™s exactly the right word â€“ around exploring how quickly we can generalize all this stuff and open and interconnect everything together. I really think thatâ€™s going to continue.</p>
<p>ROBERT BLOOMFIELD:Â  [D]o you feel like you might have opened Pandoraâ€™s box and that itâ€™s not really under your control now?</p>
<p>PHILIP ROSEDALE:Â  I think that Second Life has, in many ways, not been under our control from the beginning and that itâ€™s been a basic operating assumption that to create the kind of incredible place and business opportunity, and social opportunity more broadly, that Second Life would require a certain lack of control. And that was true with the content from day one.</p>
<p>So for us, oh, we open-sourced the client a while ago, and now weâ€™re trying to do the same thing with respect to operating standards to interconnect grids. This is a pretty logical progression, using worlds that weâ€™re pretty familiar with. I mean weâ€™ve always felt that, if you have a compelling use proposition, which certainly Second Life does, in other words, if thereâ€™s real utility, real fun or real business or real whatever in what people are doing, then there should be a way, as a company, to be open, global and still make money on an hour-to-hour or a user-to-user basis or whatever on what weâ€™re doing. And the economic aspects of the business have been fantastic from the very early days, and we donâ€™t really even worry about them.</p>
<p>Our ability as a company to find a way to make a reasonable amount of money per hour that people spend in Second Life, itâ€™s really never been that much of a problem. Itâ€™s actually been fascinating as weâ€™ve changed pricing and as weâ€™ve changed the ways that we make money. Introducing new ways of making money â€“Â  like selling currency on the LindeX â€“ itâ€™s been amazing how stable our revenues have been as a function of usage hours. Itâ€™s one of the things that we sometimes marvel at. Itâ€™s almost an emergent effect, if you will, that the companyâ€™s business, its operating revenues are really very stable.</p>
<p>ROBERT BLOOMFIELD:Â  Even though theyâ€™re coming from different streams.</p>
<p>PHILIP ROSEDALE:Â  Even though theyâ€™re coming from different streams. And sometimes the requirements of the platform and decisions that we make will really substantially change the nature of those streams, but when you put them all together and you divide them by the number of usage hours, itâ€™s like a constant. Itâ€™s almost a magic number. And itâ€™s a magic number that allows us to be profitable, and therefore, is certainly adequate to make a business in the future. I donâ€™t think that continuing to open Second Life up as we have been is going to impact that. Again, I just think there are so many opportunities to make money that we shouldnâ€™t have to worry about that too much in the company. And, again, I think thatâ€™s a lot like the early internet. I mean if you step back and look holistically at the internet â€“ you look at PayPal, the payment systems, auction systems, transaction systems, posting, naming â€“ you look at all the businesses that comprise the internet, well, those are all the kinds of businesses that we as a company can be in, in this emerging market. Thereâ€™s no business thatâ€™s denied us. We are in the hosting business. We can continue to be in the hosting business long term, putting servers up and providing access to them.</p>
<p>We can certainly be in the naming business. Weâ€™re in the currency and transaction support business. Itâ€™s funny, itâ€™s something thatâ€™s often discussed. We worry much more about improving the scalability, stability and the usability of the system: reducing that initial user experience, reducing the time associated with it, making it easier. Thatâ€™s got to be the lever that drives more growth in the overall industry, more revenues for us. So itâ€™s really all we worry about. But I donâ€™t think that the open grid will impact our revenues any more than open sourcing the client did.</p>
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