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		<title>Web 2.0 Meets Gov 2.0: Hacking Human Behavior within a City, FourSquare, MoMo #13, and AR DevCamp</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mobile social communication is beginning to take center stage as the internet moves to real time communications. The recent explosion of interest in augmented reality is part of a wider concern to orchestrate a new landscape of contextually relevant information linked to location/place/time and mobile social connectedness. The picture above, &#8220;Having an iphone has completely [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">Mobile social communication is beginning to take center stage as the internet moves to real time communications</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">. </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">The recent explosion of interest in augmented reality is part of a wider concern to orchestrate a new landscape of </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">contextually relevant information linked to location/place/time and mobile social connectedness.</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">The picture above, &#8220;Having an iphone has completely changed the way I poop,&#8221; is a slide from </span><a href="http://www.ideo.com/thinking/voice/gentry-underwood" target="_blank">Gentry Underwood&#8217;s</a> <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">workshop at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo, NYC</a>, <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/public/schedule/detail/10638" target="_blank">&#8220;Social Interaction Design a Primer.&#8221;</a><br />
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<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">Last month, I attendedÂ  three events starting with<a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/category/events/13/" target="_blank"> MoMo #13</a>, Amsterdam, where I presented on, <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" target="_blank">&#8220;The Next Wave of AR: Mobile Social Interaction, Right Here, Right Now!</a>.Â  Then I caught the last two days of the <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo, NYC</a>, and finally, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/real-time-crunchup-sf/" target="_blank">Real Time Crunchup SF</a> (which I watched online). </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">New forms of real time mobile, social connectedness were central themes on all three occasions. </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">But, in terms of doing stuff that matters with mobile real time technologies, at the moment, we are still at the &#8220;hello world&#8221; demonstration</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> (see my conversation below with <a href="http://dashes.com/anil/" target="_blank">Anil Dash</a> and <a href="http://www.markdrapeau.com/" target="_blank">Mark Drapeau</a> at Web 2.0 Expo below).</span> <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">As Anil Dash noted,Â  <strong>&#8220;</strong></span><strong><span id="uz2e" title="Click to view full content">I think everybody starts with a train schedule&#8230;&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><strong><span id="ljc1" title="Click to view full content">&#8220;I remember five years ago when Adrian did Chicagocrime.org. It was a revelation but I mean, that was five years ago.Â  And people still keep making that app over and over.&#8221; </span></strong><br />
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<p><span id="yvdi" title="Click to view full content">Anil Dash</span> announced at the Web 2.0 Expo that he will be the director of <a href="http://www.expertlabs.org/">Expert Labs</a>, a new nonprofit that will take the dot-com incubator model and apply it to new digital tools for the federal government:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;For me, in starting Expert Labs it&#8217;s been great just to tap into the desire people have to help and serve and to take the idea that you can work for your country without having to work for your government. What can you do to participate?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> The Gov 2.0 movement is attracting the best and the brightest, if you need inspiration check out <a href="http://public.resource.org/" target="_blank">Carl Malamud&#8217;</a>s <a href="http://www.gov2summit.com/" target="_blank">Gov 2.0 Summit</a> presentation, <a href="http://gov2summit.blip.tv/file/2605719/" target="_blank">By the People&#8230;.</a>.Â Â  <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/jenpahlka/" target="_blank">Jennifer Pahlka</a> is leaving her long time post as co-chair of Web 2.0 events for TechWeb to concentrate on <a href="http://codeforamerica.org/" target="_blank">Code for America</a>. </span>And <a href="http://www.markdrapeau.com/about/" target="_blank">Mark Drapeau</a> is co-chair of the <a href="http://www.gov2expo.com/gov2expo2010" target="_blank">Government 2.0 Expo</a> next May, that Oâ€™Reilly and TechWeb are also producing.Â  You can submit ideas about Gov 2.0, ICT, and cities (or other topics) to the upcoming <a href="http://gov2expo.com" target="_blank">Gov 2.0 Expo</a>.Â  Mark says he will welcome them! Note there is a <a href="http://en.oreilly.com/gov2fall09" target="_blank">Free Gov 2.0 Online conf.</a> Thursday, Dec. 10th</p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> Tim O&#8217;Reilly has committed to Gov 2.0 work and &#8220;doing stuff that matters&#8221; with missionary zeal (see his </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">keynote Web 2.o Expo, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRC8nfZ67M&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=2" target="_blank">War for the Web)</a></span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">.Â Â  Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s talk, also the article,Â  <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/11/the-war-for-the-web.html" target="_blank">War for the Web</a>, are a stark reminder of how the centralization and privatization of large parts of </span>our communications infrastructure<span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> threatens the open web.Â  But &#8220;doing stuff that matters,&#8221; as it turns out,Â  is one of the best ways to win the war for the open web. </span></p>
<h3>&#8220;Level playing Fields, Open access, Open APIs, Controlling our data, being able to move with it&#8221; (Anil Dash)</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-9.08.04-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4934" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 9.08.04 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-9.08.04-PM-300x184.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 9.08.04 PM" width="300" height="184" /></a></p>
<p><em>Slide above from Anil Dash&#8217;s presentation at the Web 2.0 Expo, NYC, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOlKfbE97ok&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=9" target="_blank">&#8220;Listening to the Experts&#8221;</a></em></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">T</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">he Gov 2.0 movement is still in the idea and initiative phase</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">, but the</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> ideals and scope of the movement are a natural antidote to the fox in the social network chicken coop business model du jour (see the <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/02/zynga-takes-steps-to-remove-scams-from-games/" target="_blank">latest antics of Zynga</a>).<br />
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<p><span title="Click to view full content">Anil Dash notes the intrinsic bond between Gov 2.0 work and the open web:<br />
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<p><strong>&#8220;Because government has an inclination to creating openness by its nature. Right?Â  We donâ€™t have an entirely toll system of federal highways in the states. We understand that the broadcast airwaves are a public good. And so government is inclined to think about creating public goods. It would be ridiculous to spend tax payer dollars on funding proprietary platforms.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/globespotting/archives/2009/12/the_power_of_go.html" target="_blank">The Power of Government as a Platform</a> for citizen involvement is just beginning to emerge from initiatives like Data.govÂ  &#8220;a collection of federal data housed on the www.data.gov <a href="http://www.data.gov/">Web site</a> thatâ€™s open to public access.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the most challenging aspects of creating in context mobile applications that do stuff that matters is the data curation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">Sean White</a>, explained to me <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/10/24/ismar-2009-an-augmented-reality-top-chef-coopetition/" target="_blank">at ISMAR 2009</a>, the challenges of data curation behind this beautiful example of augmented reality doing something that matters (pic below) -Â  a pollution meter, that â€œshows carbon monoxide levels projected over New York City.Â  The height of each ball reflects concentrations of the pollutantâ€ (developed at Columbia University Graphics and User Interface Lab where <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/%7Efeiner/" target="_blank">Steven Feiner</a> is Director).Â  Note Sean White and Steven Feiner will be at <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=AR_DevCamp_interest_list" target="_blank">AR DevCamp NYC</a> this weekend at <a title="http://openplans.org/contact/" rel="nofollow" href="http://openplans.org/contact/">The Open Planning Project office (TOPP)</a> &#8211; see below for more information.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-2.32.05-PM1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4925" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 2.32.05 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-2.32.05-PM1-300x214.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 2.32.05 PM" width="300" height="214" /></a></p>
<h3>Open Data combined with Open Architectures of Participation are a Powerful Combination.</h3>
<p>Scott Yates commented in his <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-25758-Google-Wave-Examiner~y2009m11d20-Google-Wave-may-be-the-future-but-the-future-is-not-Real-Time" target="_blank">very insightful post </a>on <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"><a href="http://realtimecrunchupsf241.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">RT Crunchup SF</a> that</span> a &#8220;literny of fixes&#8221; for a broken web were &#8220;presented asÂ  the state of the art&#8221;Â  in a <strong>&#8220;series of presentations from companies that have solutions that fix some subset of all the long list of annoyances&#8221;</strong> (annoyances arising from finding data and friends locked into a variety of different walled gardens).</p>
<p>And, Scott Yates writes:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;There have been presentations from companies who hope to be the future of socially connected communications, but not one of them has the economic or intellectual heft to be considered a true vision for the future.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>If you have been following my recent posts, you will already know that I agree with Scott Yates when he concludes:<strong> &#8220;Wave really has an opportunity to fix so much of what is broken in communications.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>I have been working on<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/TishShute/the-next-wave-of-ar-mobile-social-interaction-right-here-right-now-2542526" target="_blank"> a project to create an open distributed augmented reality/mobile social communications framework based on the Wave Federation Protocol.</a></p>
<p>This <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page" target="_blank">Saturday Dec 5th there will be AR DevCamps held in Mountain View, New York City, Wave and Skype. </a> There will be sessions on many aspects of open augmented reality, including Wave enabled AR.</p>
<h3>AR DevCamp</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-2.13.59-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4908" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 2.13.59 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-2.13.59-AM.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 2.13.59 AM" width="135" height="139" /></a></p>
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<p>I will attend <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=NYC_ardevcamp" target="_blank">AR DevCampNYC </a>at the NYC location, <a title="http://openplans.org/contact/" rel="nofollow" href="http://openplans.org/contact/">The Open Planning Project office (TOPP)</a> penthouse in Manhattan.Â  This will be an awesome opportunity to meet some of the key augmented reality thought leaders and innovators, including <a href="http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">Sean White</a>, <a href="http://graphics.cs.columbia.edu/top.html" target="_blank">Steven Feiner</a>,Â  <a href="http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~henderso/" target="_blank">Steve Henderson,</a> and many others (see the sign up <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=AR_DevCamp_interest_list" target="_blank">list here</a>).Â  <a href="http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~ohan/" target="_blank">Ohan Oda</a> will demo the <a href="http://graphics.cs.columbia.edu/projects/goblin/" target="_blank">open Goblin XNA platform</a>. Â  Thomas Wrobel will answer questions on writing AR Blips to PygoWave Servers and Sophia Parafina <a href="http://twitter.com/spara" target="_blank">(@spara</a>), Joe Lamantia <a title="http://joelamantia.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://joelamantia.com/">(@mojoe</a>) and I will be on hand to discuss the open distributed framework for AR project -Â  <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/10/13/ar-wave-layers-and-channels-of-social-augmented-experiences/" target="_blank">Wave enabled AR</a>. Â  The <a href="http://pygowave.net/blog/" target="_blank">PyGoWave crew</a> will participate via skype (they will be introducing some of their latest work ).Â  Ori Inbar of <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento</a> and <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/" target="_blank">Games Alfresco</a> will lead a brainstorming session on the &#8220;Big AR NY Game&#8221;: The first location-based, social, augmented reality game designed for New York by New Yorkers.</p>
<p>We will continue the interesting discussion led by Marco Neumann (<a href="http://twitter.com/Neumarcx" target="_blank">@neumarcx </a>) on the Semantic Web and Augmented Reality at the <a href="http://semweb.meetup.com/25/calendar/11819773/" target="_blank">Semantic Web Meetup</a>.Â  <a href="http://www.tacticaltransparency.com/my_weblog/author-bios.html" target="_blank">John C. Havens</a> will introduce the <a href="http://outernetguidelinesinitiative.pbworks.com/" target="_blank">Outernet Guidelines Initiative</a>.Â  And <a href="http://www.mattsnod.com/" target="_blank">Matthew Snodgrass</a> <a title="http://www.twitter.com/mattsnod" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.twitter.com/mattsnod">@mattsnod</a>, <a title="http://www.lippetaylor.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lippetaylor.com/">Lippe Taylor</a> will lead a session on the future implications of AR.Â  <a title="Noah Zerkin (page does not exist)" href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=Noah_Zerkin&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1">Noah Zerkin</a>,  will share his brilliant work on AR software and hardware interfaces and exploring the idea of an AROS.Â  And <a href="http://www.maploser.com/?page_id=6" target="_blank">Kate Chapman</a>, from Washington, DC,Â  <a href="http://twitter.com/wonderchook" target="_blank">@wonderchook</a>, and a bevy of local NYC geo geniuses, including organizer Sophia Parafina (<a href="http://twitter.com/spara" target="_blank">@spara</a> ), will explore ways to visualize government data through AR.Â  I am hoping we will have some projects for the upcoming Gov 2.0 Expo at <a href="http://gov2expo.com/">http://gov2expo.com</a>.</p>
<p>And there will be much, much more &#8211; <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=NYC_ardevcamp" target="_blank">keep checking and adding to the wiki.</a> See you there!</p>
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<h3>&#8220;Hacking Human Behavior Within a City&#8221;</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-7.47.46-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4931" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 7.47.46 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-7.47.46-PM-300x227.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 7.47.46 PM" width="300" height="227" /></a></p>
<p><em>Picture from inspiring cities.org -shows some <a href="http://www.inspiringcities.org/index.php?id=395&amp;page_type=Article&amp;id_article=18826" target="_blank">Amsterdam bicycle trends</a><br />
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<p>At Web 2.0 Expo, <a href="http://www.ideo.com/thinking/voice/gentry-underwood" target="_blank">Gentry Underwood</a>,<a href="http://www.ideo.com/thinking/voice/gentry-underwood" target="_blank"> IDEO</a>, gave <span title="Click to view full content">a great presentation on </span>how software changes community and communities change software<span title="Click to view full content"> from an ethnographic perspective &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPbzdcZBl6M&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=19" target="_blank">&#8220;Designing Web 2.0: Here Come the Anthropologists.&#8221;</a></span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">And Baratunde Thurston&#8217;s,</span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyqKPcfx64&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=0" target="_blank">&#8220;There&#8217;s a #hashtag for That</a>, was an<span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">inspired, brilliant romp through the </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">&#8220;mini-grass roots movements&#8221; of hashtags </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">- </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">which are &#8220;quickly assembled/demolished malleable fun!&#8221; or &#8220;great ways to mess with people,&#8221; </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">that reminded us the power of grass roots movements when it comes to &#8220;hacking human behavior.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">But my visit to <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/category/talks/" target="_blank">MoMo #13</a> preceeding the Web 2.0 Expo showed me clearly &#8220;hacking human behavior within a city&#8221; is on home turf in Amsterdam, where smart phones and bicycles are the vehicles for the </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">MoMoesque lifestyle</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">.<br />
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<p>Thanks to the foresight and generosity of the MoMo organizers, who make sure that the experience ofÂ  the speakers together goes beyond the few hours of the event, I had a three day, three night intensive on the future of mobile social interaction &#8211; living, thinking, and breathing mobile social connectedness, often into the wee hours, with Dennis Crowley, CEO of <a href="http://www.foursquare.com/" target="_blank">FourSquare</a> (see <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/dennis-crowley-foursquare/" target="_blank">his great MoMo 13 presentation here</a>), Ted Morgan, SkyHook (<a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/ted-morgan-location-makes-mobile-mobile/" target="_blank">a must see presentation on what SkyHook is doing with data</a>), the MoMo crew, and many of Amsterdam&#8217;s enthusiastic Four Square community.Â <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span></p>
<p>And yes, Four Square really is an awesome way to enjoy a city and meet new people.Â  MIA in this particular pic are key MoMo organizers -Â  <a href="http://twitter.com/samWarnaars" target="_blank">@samwarnaars</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/MdBraber" target="_blank">@mdbraber</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/vanGeest" target="_blank">@vangeest</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/foursquare-polaroid.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4885" title="foursquare-polaroid" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/foursquare-polaroid-300x224.jpg" alt="foursquare-polaroid" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p>But what do fun times in Amsterdam and FourSquare have to do with doing stuff that matters?</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/marcfonteijn" target="_blank">Marc Fonteijn,</a> MoMo chair and co-founder of <a href="http://www.31v.nl/" target="_blank">31Volts</a> points out:<strong> &#8220;foursquare looks and feels like a game but what it&#8217;s actually doing is changing behavior in a playful way&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And <a href="http://twitter.com/vanGeest" target="_blank">Yuri van Geest</a>, who co-founded not only <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/" target="_blank">Mobile Monday Amsterdam</a> but also <a href="http://www.tedxamsterdam.nl/" target="_blank">TEDx Amsterdam,</a> added:</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>in Holland we are working on using the FourSquare API for mHealth purposes also we see that smart venue owners reward all mayors/lead users/visitors with free meals/drinks/privileges/perks etc. and smart advertisers to boost their co-marketing deals based on FourSquare targeting capabilities of key influencers&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Dennis Crowley, seemingly immune to lack of sleep and jet lag, followed up his MoMo #13 talk with <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/public/schedule/detail/11589" target="_blank">a presentation at Web 2.0 Expo</a>.Â Â  I was sitting just behind Mark Drapeau, and I managed to catch up with Mark after Dennis&#8217; talk.</p>
<p>Mark listed Foursquare in his big takeaways from the Web 2.0 Expo, pointing out the potential new forms of mobile social interaction have for &#8220;hacking human behavior within a city.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I had always been a little leery of trying FourSquare because I have a certain level of privacy I try to keep up. But listening to the CEO of Foursquare talk about it&#8230; I knew what it was. I have friends that use it.. but thinking about it as hacking human behavior within a city and social engineering of peoplesâ€™ behavior and what they can do, and really understanding what citizens are doing within cities, or other areas, and how they interact with each other. Â  I think could be incredibly valuable for government 2.0 and government understanding people better.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And Anil Dash concurred:</p>
<p><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"><strong>&#8220;I think Foursquare is a good model in terms of having a game dynamic, being mobile from its default, having a great social experience, leveraging existing networks like Twitter and Facebook instead of trying to compete with them by building their own. I think those are all really, really smart leanings. </strong></span></p>
<p><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"><strong>I think about if I were a government agency trying to meet those same goals, could I earn badges in Foursquare by doing things that help my community. Right? So when I volunteer at a soup kitchen is that one way to earn an exclusive badge? Is that going to earn me a discount at the bar? Those are all dynamics that we can set up very, very easily and I think that model&#8230;maybe it is a public-private partnership. Thatâ€™d be great.&#8221;<br />
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<h3>Talking with Mark Drapeau and Anil Dash</h3>
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<p><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Tish</strong></span><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content"><strong> Shute:</strong> I was in Amste</span><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content">rdam speaking at MoMo</span><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content">#13 and I had a lot of fun hanging out with the MoMo crew and Dennis, CEO of Four Square.Â  I got to meet people and hang outÂ  with Amsterdam&#8217;s new Four Square community. But unfortunately I missed the first two days of Web 2.0 Expo.</span></p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> I got here yesterday too. Yeah. So some big takeaways.</p>
<p>I had always been a little leery of trying FourSquare because I have a certain level of privacy I try to keep up. But listening to the CEO of Foursquare talk about it&#8230; I knew what it was. I have friends that use it but thinking about it as hacking human behavior within a city and social engineering of peoplesâ€™ behavior and what they can do, and really understanding what citizens are doing within cities, or other areas, and how they interact with each other, I think that could be incredibly valuable for government 2.0 and government understanding people better.</p>
<p>Also I really wanted to hear Tim Oâ€™Reilly interview Beth Noveck. I thought the most interesting thing about the interview were the questions and not the answers (also see<a href="http://markdrapeau.posterous.com/white-house-deputy-cto-beth-noveck-wants-more" target="_blank"> Mark&#8217;s Posterous</a> <span id="beie" title="Click to view full content">).Â  I thought a lot of the answers were disappointing and political and vague.</span></p>
<p><span id="beie" title="Click to view full content"> But I thought Tim really got some important issues about how do people in the web 2.0 community, the audience of Web 2 Expo, interact in reality when you have a system that we nicknamed Gucci Gulch, where you have lobbyists and lawyers and special interest and councils and all these things that&#8230;developers and app builders are not really a part of.Â  So how do you break in?Â  I didnâ€™t really hear good answers for that.</span></p>
<p>I really liked the presentation by the IBM researcher, if I can get his name. Forgive me. Ching Yun-Lin. Talking about putting a value on how many friends you have, how many connections you have and the fact that IBM can actually put a monetary value on the number of connections you have to managers. The number of email accounts you have in your inbox. Or your address book.</p>
<p>I thought that was just fascinating and thatâ€™s something Iâ€™m very passionate about is social networking for the sake of social networking and not merely for collaboration but making connections among diverse communities and using that to help your business or help your government agency.Â  Those are my big takeaways this morning.<br />
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<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I was lucky enough to attend Gov 2.0 Summit.Â  I think a lot very important areas for Gov 2.0 were defined there, transparency, open data, getting developers into the public sector loop, and citizen-government interaction.Â  In what areas are we seeing progress and where are we stymied and why?Â  How do you see this Web 2.0 community connecting to the ideals and plans for action of Gov 2.0?<br />
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<strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> I think thereâ€™s a lot of unanswered questions about Government 2.0 because thereâ€™s a lot of good talk and a lot of good ideas and initiatives but thereâ€™s still a long way to go before people in this audience, in this community who want to help the government or be a part of policy making or technology in the government can really in a meaningful way, interact with the government processes that, for the most part, are not going away. </span></p>
<p><span id="nw6g" title="Click to view full content">And the people that are also part of the system, like giant contractors, theyâ€™re not going away. Thereâ€™s a place for everyone. The question is how do the smaller people break in and I donâ€™t think there are really great answers for that.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What is the plan for the next Government 2.0 event?</p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> So part of the reason Iâ€™m here is to learn and be inspired as the co-chair of the Government 2.0 Expo next May that Oâ€™Reilly and TechWeb are also producing. And so thereâ€™s increasingly at the Web 2.0 events that they host, there are technologies and people relevant to government missions, or the public sector missions.</p>
<p>And so I think some of the speakers here will carry over in different ways to the Gov 2 Expo in May.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Is the call for proposals for the Gov 2.0 Expo still open?</p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> Thereâ€™s still an open call for proposals. Or people, if they know me they can talk to me directly.</p>
<p>(<a id="dtf7" title="Anil Dash" href="http://dashes.com/anil/" target="_blank">Anil Dash</a> arrives and Mark introducesÂ  me (Anil and I met briefly at Gov 2.0 Summit) &#8211; see Anil&#8217;s post, <a id="btc0" title="New York City is the Future of the Web" href="http://dashes.com/anil/2009/11/new-york-city-is-the-future-of-the-web.html" target="_blank">New York City is the Future of the Web</a> I do agree but, of course, NYC is my hometown!).</p>
<p><span id="yvdi" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Anil you are moving into Gov 2.0 work full time now after being a key thought leader in Web 2.0. </span></p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash:</strong> My perspective is probably unique in that I am very strongly from the Web 2.0 world, and new to the Gov 2.0 world and I think it&#8217;s telling that you can make the leap. I think that the profound thing is that these worlds are converging and it&#8217;s not where it was.</p>
<p>Five years ago the government technology was a bike with the training wheels on it. It was very much somebody&#8217;s old hacked up version of Drupel and crossed fingers.Â  And it looked a little homely and you thought, &#8220;well this looks like a run down office kind of thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we have have institutions that have wonderful physical presences. You can&#8217;t stand in front of the Capital Building or the White House or Supreme Court and not say &#8220;that&#8217;s a majestic building.&#8221; We should have online institutions that reflect the scope and the scale of what they do.</p>
<p>For me, in starting Expert Labs it&#8217;s been great just to tap into the desire people have to help and serve and to take the idea that you can work for your country without having to work for your government. What can you do to participate?</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> You and Mark had very interesting journeysÂ  into Gov 2.0 didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p><strong><span id="b7qr" title="Click to view full content">Mark Drapeau</span></strong><span id="jhqo4" title="Click to view full content"><strong>:</strong> </span><span id="z4dm" title="Click to view full content">Like the Hunter S. Thomson of Government 2.0<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> I like that!</span></p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash:</strong><span id="g68:" title="Click to view full content"> Can you say that about yourself?</span></p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> I did the other night and people seemed to buy it, so</p>
<p><span id="lepm" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="q1.v" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="jm87" title="Click to view full content"> People were feeling it..</span></p>
<p><span id="wezg" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau: </strong></span><span id="g80v" title="Click to view full content">That&#8217;s right!</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And even if it&#8217;s controversial it&#8217;s good too!Â  I see Mark (and perhaps I am wrong with these characterizations) as coming to this via an interest in the social narratives of government and, Anil, you have come to Gov 2.0 work, as you point out, from a deep immersion in the cultures of technology and Web 2.0&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash:</strong> And it&#8217;s also a little bit, I&#8217;ve had the privilege of seeing blogs and social media develop from the start and what I learned from it is cultural change and [not just] technology change. This is the same thing happening in government.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re calling it Government 2.0 and it makes it seem like it&#8217;s a version upgrade and it&#8217;s a software thing but it&#8217;s cultural change. And the interesting thing is many of the key players have a willingness to go through that cultural change, which means that the technology, therefore, has the opportunity to succeed.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What did you think about Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s keynote and the warning he gave re the open web?<br />
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Anil Dash: </strong>The war for the web! He&#8217;s absolutely right. Honestly, before Expert Labs had started and I&#8217;d come on board, my initial plan for a talk at this event was exactly the topics Tim covered in the War for the Web.Â  That the centralization of vast parts of our communications infrastructure around privately owned, venture funded companies is a risk to innovation in some ways.</p>
<p>We have to make sure to set up our incentives for those companies, the Facebooks and Googles and Twitters of the world, to align with what our goals are as a society, as a culture, as entrepreneurs, and all those other goals.</p>
<p>So I think it&#8217;s good to have a voice like Tim&#8217;s articulating that threat and that danger so that we can respond to it. I agree completely that we are in the next phase of the battle between open and closed platforms that we went through ten years ago with AOL.</p>
<p>There was a time when AOL dominated more of the dial up internet, one-third of all dial-up users in the US were coming through AOL. People now say &#8220;oh, the iPhone is dominant.&#8221; The iPhone has 2 percent market share of all phones or something like that, and yet people are doing all their innovation on their platform.</p>
<p>Well, people used to do all their innovation on AOL&#8217;s platform and then they ended up having to rewrite it all for the open web.</p>
<p>This pattern is going to repeat. The choice is whether people want to encourage it or fight it or hope it goes away and ultimately there&#8217;s no great business that was built entirely within the walls of AOL&#8217;s garden. I doubt there will be a great business built entirely within the walls of Apple&#8217;s or Facebook&#8217;s or anyone else&#8217;s garden.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say those companies couldn&#8217;t evolve to be open, I hope they do, but as it stands right now you would be foolish to bet your business either from a promotional standpoint, from a start-up standpoint, from a new technology standpoint, on any closed platform that you don&#8217;t control.</p>
<p><span id="fgxq" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I was mentioning to Mark that I thought itâ€™s sort of ironic that we now understand how important the architecture of participation of the internet can be to government just as we are on the verge of another big battle to keep the web open&#8230;, a moment when walled gardens are seeming to dominate..will this be an obstacle for Gov 2.0?</span></p>
<p><span id="e55e" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="lsod" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="gus9" title="Click to view full content"> No I think actually theyâ€™ll get to skip the closed era. </span></p>
<p><span id="gus9" title="Click to view full content">You know I look at the rather famous example in India of never having landlines. They went directly to satellite phones, skipped directly to the wireless generation so they never had an old infrastructure to rip out. </span></p>
<p><span id="gus9" title="Click to view full content">I think you are going to see the same thing with government tech adoption is they are going to start in the era of recognizing the threat of closed platforms and move directly to open platforms.</span></p>
<p>Because government has an inclination to creating openness by its nature. Right? We donâ€™t have an entirely toll system of federal highways in the states. We understand that the broadcast airwaves are a public good. And so government is inclined to think about creating public goods. It would be ridiculous to spend tax payer dollars on funding proprietary platforms.</p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> Universal accessibility for citizens.</p>
<p><span id="zsxt" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="m9vw" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="ij6p" title="Click to view full content">Right. Itâ€™s a fundamental tenant of government and we have an incredible history including the Internet itself, of embracing open standards to solve government problems in a way that helps all of society.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So people who have championed open participatory architecture of the internet and open source approaches now have even is more incentive to team up with government 2.0!</p>
<p><span id="pfgt" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="tlow" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="zkrl" title="Click to view full content"> Yeah it is an advantage. But also, I mean candidly, open source is almost incidental to it. I mean I think we have come to the point where open source is assumed as some element of any new tech venture. It is much more about level playing fields, open access, open APIs, controlling our data, being able to move with it, that I think is key.</span></p>
<p><span id="zkrl" title="Click to view full content"> And I go back to that AOL example, there was a moment where they opened their email gateways to standard Internet email. And so instead of the AOL users only being able to email each other, they could email anybody on the web and this is the moment in which all the value was created. You start to have email marketing companies, and open exchanges and open mailing lists happen when anybody could email anybody else, that is the sort of thing that government catalyzed just by being the example.<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> Mark talked about Four Square and how that could be really interesting as part of a Gov 2.0 project. But mobile has followed a course with many complications re an architectural participation &#8211; I am thinking about the control exerted by the carriers and now Apple for example?</span></p>
<p><span id="c1o7" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="yttq" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="v3kw" title="Click to view full content">No, I think it has revealed complications that have always been there. Right? Thereâ€™s always been multiple platforms. There have always been user agents and web browsers that have different capabilities. There has always been a digital divide. Mobile is making clear that those realities existed. </span></p>
<p><span id="v3kw" title="Click to view full content">But I keep saying this, like, I think if I am designing an application today, you design for mobile first, for a number of reasons. One, the digital divide is much less pronounced on mobile devices. Two, you are much more likely to have an experience that scales well from a small device to a larger one than vice versa. Three, you are able to target international markets or other developing markets where mobile is the default computer platform. And you become aware of constraints in bandwidth, in accessibility, in user experience, in general experience with computers, that a lot of people in the technology industry just completely ignore.</span></p>
<p><span id="v3kw" title="Click to view full content"> And you know you go to Silicon Valley and people think itâ€™s normal to have a six hundred dollar phone that has a thousand dollar a year data plan. And without blinking they designed for devices like that. Itâ€™s myopic and ridiculous to think that people can live with that level of privilege all the time on all the devices that they have and that they have a brand new computer. And so that will be its own undoing.</span></p>
<p>Right? Itâ€™s the people that are thinking about open platforms and working with any device and I think FourSquare candidly is doing a good job of this because they did start with the assumption of iPhones and this thing but their initial target audience of hipsters in the east village probably did have those. But now they have an open API, anybody can access it, thatâ€™s the right evolution. And I think theyâ€™re smart enough, that was always on their plan.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> But in terms of mobile social interaction we basically have really a structure all of lots of different wall gardens?</p>
<p><span id="mq8x" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="kdmb" title="Click to view full content">: For now..</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>How do you see mobile developing more interoperability and social interaction capabilities?</p>
<p><span id="v8r9" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash: </strong>By using the web. I think it doesnâ€™t have to be full-fledged Ajax-y, html applications on the phone. But if we simply rely on the capabilities of the web as it stands today instead of developing for proprietary mobile platforms we can make a lot of amazing things happen. Itâ€™s a good constraint. We should embrace our constraints.</span></p>
<p>Itâ€™s not conventional wisdom yet that mobile applications should be developed for the web. But thatâ€™ll change in the next year.<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> There is a lot of exciting new real time technologies coming to the Web, Pubhubsubbub, Google Wave Federation Protocol. How will these change mobile development?</p>
<p><span id="a_s9" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash:</strong></span><span id="yhh6" title="Click to view full content"> RSS cloud. I mean there&#8217;s a ton of real time technologies that are coming out together.<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> What are your favorites in the real time area?<br />
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<span id="ygnk" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash:</strong></span><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content"> I wrote a post about this .. called <a href="http://dashes.com/anil/2009/07/the-pushbutton-web-realtime-becomes-real.html" target="_blank">The Push-Button Web</a> where I actually go into this&#8230;</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh yes great post!</p>
<p><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash:</strong> I donâ€™t pick a favorite. I think all of them together will work. I think itâ€™s similar to how the web itself evolved. </span></p>
<p><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content">We have a tangle of different related technologies that get abstracted away when you use a browser. You donâ€™t know if itâ€™s a gif image or a jpeg image when you browse a page. You just know itâ€™s showing an image in line. </span></p>
<p><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content">I think weâ€™re going to see the same thing happen to real time web. Weâ€™re going to very, very quickly settle into a stack of technologies that let us do real time. As a developer you might have to be aware of the subtle differences. As a user your experience is going to be, â€œI have real time and it works on whatever device Iâ€™m on.â€<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> Mobile seems like a vital part of government 2.0 because it can connect people and their government to their context/public infrastructure/environment that is a shared concern. The open data movement has shown that being able to mash up data and get that delivered in context is a very powerful kind of technology for government 2.0. Right?<br />
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<span id="ztwv" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="f.f4" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="uz2e" title="Click to view full content">I donâ€™t know. I think thatâ€™s there&#8217;s just been the â€œhello worldâ€ demonstration. I think everybody starts with a train schedule&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span id="tb43" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="vri0" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="flw7" title="Click to view full content"> I was just going to say that everyone is starting with the very low hanging fruit. The transportation, the crime. Itâ€™s not exactly clear where itâ€™s going to go but I think itâ€™ll go â€“<br />
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<p><strong>Anil Dash</strong><span id="qr2v" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="ljc1" title="Click to view full content">I remember five years when Adrian did Chicagocrime.org. It was a revelation but I mean, that was five years ago. And people still keep making that app over and over. </span></p>
<p><span id="ljc1" title="Click to view full content">I remember at the time I had just become friends with Craig Newmark and I said, â€œCraigâ€™s List should show the crime around the neighborhoods where you have an apartment listing.â€ And he said, â€œWell, if I do that then neighbourhoods that are getting better, that h</span><span id="suj7" title="Click to view full content">istorically had more crime, will never improve because people wonâ€™t rent apartments there.â€ And he came back with that answer immediately as soon as I suggested the idea and revealed one, why Craigâ€™s List is the success that it is. But two, what the implications are of releasing data and having to think about the social implications of that.<br />
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<span id="jhqo" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="qmcp" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="m9uw" title="Click to view full content"> Well, itâ€™s like Gentry from IDEO said that, â€œSocial software changes the community, which changes the software.â€</span></p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash</strong><span id="fvyu" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="kcdl" title="Click to view full content"> Right. Exactly. We have to think about the social implications of the tools and technology we create. </span></p>
<p><span id="kcdl" title="Click to view full content">That means that the reason&#8230;one of the reasons we have only had these, frankly, unambitious obvious applications of open data is because the people that have had access thus far have been people that are not socially oriented. Like geeks are very inwardly focused.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Oh. Okay. Well Markâ€™s changing this..</p>
<p><span id="uef0" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="jq7v" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="njzb" title="Click to view full content"> Theyâ€™re in a very insular community.</span></p>
<p><span id="wbkn" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="lv6c" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="lgf8" title="Click to view full content"> I think thereâ€™s a number of people that are trying to change that.</span></p>
<p><span id="l4kk" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="ods7" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="f69t" title="Click to view full content"> Yeah. Itâ€™s starting to change but Iâ€™m saying thatâ€™s why weâ€™ve seen that symptom in the past.<br />
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<span id="sen2" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="r9db" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="ib01" title="Click to view full content"> I get a lot of mileage out of the fact that Iâ€™m neither sort of a career govie type thatâ€™s getting into the 2.0 stuff. Nor am I a lifelong techie whoâ€™s getting into the government and stuff. Iâ€™m sort of&#8230;Iâ€™m interested in these anthropological, psychological, animal behavioral, ecological questions about human behavior and networking. And thatâ€™s where I kind of come into this.<br />
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<span id="bjr:" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="m5em" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="xkxg" title="Click to view full content"> And I think weâ€™re going to need an ethnographic approach to looking at how people work with this data in their real lives. People are using this data already and donâ€™t realize it. You know, when we grab a map in an unfamiliar city youâ€™re using government data. We just donâ€™t think of those behaviors as doing so, and we need to understand that to build applications that really solve peopleâ€™s problems.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute</strong><span id="w5nn" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="x9qz" title="Click to view full content"> So can you speculate on the next generation youâ€™d like to see?</span></p>
<p><span id="eh9w" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="k1av" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"> I think Foursquare is a good model in terms of having a game dynamic, being mobile from its default, having a great social experience, leveraging existing networks like Twitter and Facebook instead of trying to compete with them by building their own.</span></p>
<p><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"> I think those are all really, really smart leanings. I think about if I were a government agency trying to meet those same goals, could I earn badges in Foursquare by doing things that help my community. Right? So when I volunteer at a soup kitchen is that one way to earn an exclusive badge?Â  Is that going to earn me a discount at the bar?Â  Those are all dynamics that we can set up very, very easily and I think that model&#8230;maybe it is a public-private partnership. Thatâ€™d be great.<br />
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Mark Drapeau:</strong> Or even doing things to help your internal community. Key people at work or within your agency or things like that. From my vantage point it does seem like local Government 2.0 types are thinking much more about mobile than the Federal government types. The reality is government employees all have BlackBerries and theyâ€™re running around all the time. But theyâ€™re in terms of government 2.0 type stuff theyâ€™re thinking about the Dell desktop they have and the Microsoft Windows system and whenever I mention something like mobile or pervasive videos&#8230;..people arenâ€™t really there. Theyâ€™re worried about cyber security on the traditional systems. Theyâ€™re worried about desktop applications on a Dell.</span></p>
<p><span id="vtzh" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="r1u4" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="zpwe" title="Click to view full content"> Theyâ€™re still five years ago.</span></p>
<p><span id="xl-x" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong></span><span id="z-b4" title="Click to view full content"> Yeah. Theyâ€™re still five years ago and so I think these kind of Oâ€™Reilly-Tech Web events, Gov 2.0 Expo, Web 2.0 Expo, etc., are really starting to get at these questions that are now and not five years ago.</span></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.ismar09.org/" target="_blank">ISMAR 2009</a> -Â  was an extraordinary mix ofÂ  high geek, academic eminence, gungho Dutch Cowboy entrepreneurial spirit, German engineering and industry, brilliant artistry, and invention, all fueled by a sense, and a very active presence in the case of Diamond Sponsor &#8211; Qualcomm, that the big technology players are waking up to augmented reality.</p>
<p>In the picture sequence above (click on photos to enlarge),Â  <a href="http://twitter.com/metaioUS" target="_blank">Noora </a><span><span><a href="http://twitter.com/metaioUS" target="_blank">Guldemond</a></span></span><span><span>, <a href="http://www.metaio.com/" target="_blank">Metaio</a>, demonstrates <a href="http://www.junaio.com/" target="_blank">Junaio</a> (coming to an iphone near you Nov 2nd) to <a href="http://twitter.com/dirkgroten" target="_blank">Dirk Groten</a>, CTO of<a href="http://layar.com/" target="_blank"> Layar</a> (top left photo).Â  One of the nice social features of Junaio is that users can share the 3D augmented scenes they have created.Â  Noora is demoing this capability to </span></span><span><span>Dirk, and as you can see he cracks up when he sees theÂ  scene Noora has stored on her phone.Â  Dirk and I both recognize that this cute little dinosaur augmentation (close up above on bottom left) must have been created by <a href="http://www.metaio.com/company/" target="_blank">Peter Meier, CTO of Metaio</a>, during the Interoperability and Standards workshop earlier that day.Â  Metaio it seems were discussing standards while enjoying some 3D augmented back chat.<br />
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<p><span><span> Both Dirk and I were active participants in the workshop too.Â  But little did we know that Peter Meier had introduced his little 3D dinosaur into our discussion while we diligently, and sometimes heatedly, debated the merits of XMPP, Wave Federation Protocol,Â  KML, ARML, VRML, X3D, andÂ  more!Â  The photo I took is on the bottom right of the four pics above. It was probably taken very shortly after Peter&#8217;s augmented Junaio scene.Â  Of course there is no little dinosaur in my pic ofÂ  Dirk Groten with <a href="http://twitter.com/JoeLudwig" target="_blank">Joe Ludwig</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/markustripp" target="_blank">Markus Tripp of Mobilizy</a> who were discussing AR standards oblivious to Peter&#8217;s virtual pet in our midst.<br />
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<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/MarkusTrippPeterMeier.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4685" title="MarkusTrippPeterMeier" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/MarkusTrippPeterMeier-300x199.jpg" alt="MarkusTrippPeterMeier" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4686" title="Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost-300x199.jpg" alt="Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost" width="300" height="199" /></a><br />
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<p><span><span>I must say I had noticed an impish look on Peter Meier&#8217;s face (see photo above on the left &#8211; Peter is wearing glasses and holding a phone).Â  And Markus Tripp, of MobilizyÂ  revealed a little bit of gaming of his own, when he let out that, in part, ARML is a provocation.Â  But Peter was clearly unfazed and enjoying himself.Â  Dirk, tasked to summarize our discussion, stalwartly maintained an optimistic but serious tone fitting for a standards discussion:Â  &#8220;There is a willingness to standardize&#8230;.,&#8221; he began (pic above on left &#8211; click to enlarge and read text). </span></span></p>
<p><span><span> But it was a little 3D dinosaur that, perhaps appropriately, had the last laugh. Fitting, as I am not sure whether anything anyone says about AR standards at the moment will hold up.Â  But, as Ori commented in <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">his great post &#8211; an epilogue for ISMAR 2009,</a> the vibe was &#8220;Peace and Love&#8221; in AR Browser land (</span></span>although Chetan Damani of <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/?s=%22acrossair%22" target="_blank">Across Air</a> was not in the standards discussion because he attended the UX/content? workshop instead)<span><span>.Â  But as they say, &#8220;all&#8217;s fair in love and war.&#8221;Â  And it is my feeling the games have barely begun!Â  There are many players (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI4lB00Ht9o&amp;feature=player_embedded#" target="_blank">virtual pets </a>included) waiting in the wings. I met some at ISMAR, and they are just itching to join the frey.<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/coopetitionpost.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ARConsortiumpost2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4701" title="ARConsortiumpost2" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ARConsortiumpost2-300x188.jpg" alt="ARConsortiumpost2" width="300" height="188" /></a><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4690" title="coopetitionpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/coopetitionpost-300x185.jpg" alt="coopetitionpost" width="300" height="185" /></p>
<p><span><span>Ori Inbar, <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento </a>and Robert Rice, <a href="http://www.neogence.com/#/home" target="_blank">Neogence Enterprises</a>, both founders of the <a href="http://www.arconsortium.org/" target="_blank">AR Consortium</a>, made great efforts to set our young industry off on the right foot -Â  in theÂ  spirit of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopetition" target="_blank">coopetition </a>(</span></span>a <a title="Neologism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism">neologism</a> coined to describe <a title="Co-operation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operation">cooperative</a> <a title="Competition" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition">competition)</a><span><span>. See </span></span><a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">Curious Raven for </a><a href="http://curiousraven.squarespace.com/home/2009/10/23/ismar-09-observations-and-comments.html" target="_blank">Robert&#8217;s conference observations</a>, and <span><span><a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">Ori&#8217;s post on Games Alfresco</a> for more about </span></span>Mobile Augmented Reality at ISMAR 2009.Â  The Mobile Augmented Reality Workshops were driven by an indomitable spokesperson for the new AR industry, <a href="http://www.perey.com/" target="_blank">Christine Perey</a>.Â  Christine not only helped motivate discussion on the issue of oxygen to the system, i.e. business value, but also she was a very generous connector at the conference.</p>
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<h3>What&#8217;s Next From Augmented Reality&#8217;s Top Chefs?</h3>
<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-7.15.58-PM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-7.12.35-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4692" title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 7.12.35 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-7.12.35-PM-300x196.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 7.12.35 PM" width="300" height="196" /></a><br />
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<p>As Ori pointed out, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0218033/" target="_blank">Kent Demaine</a>, <a href="http://www.ooo-ii.com/" target="_blank">oooii</a> (pic above is from the oooii web site), Minority report VFX designer was hanging out at ISMAR 2009 and he came to the panel I was on: &#8220;Augmented Reality in Sports,Â  Entertainment and Advertising.&#8221;Â  We chatted afterwords about instrumented environments and how this is such a key to development interesting augmented experiences.Â  Also I mentioned how back in the day I was involved in some of the early development of motion control software.Â  And it was great to hear Kent say they were still finding motion control cool at <a href="http://www.ooo-ii.com/" target="_blank">oooii</a>.Â  As Ori notes, he is the &#8220;guy with the most enviable AR credentials in the world (the guy who designed VFX for minority report)<strong>,&#8221;</strong><strong> </strong>and <a href="http://www.ooo-ii.com/" target="_blank">oooii</a> is busy and hiring.</p>
<p>One of the highlights of the Arts, Media and Humanities track for me was meeting <a href="http://jarrellpair.com/" target="_blank">JarrellÂ  Pair.</a> He really brought the best out in panelists with his well tuned questions.Â  The recording of ISMAR was comprehensive and videos should be up next week.Â  I will post the slides on Ugotrade of my presentation:Â  &#8220;The Next Wave of AR: Shared Augmented Realities and Remix Culture.&#8221;.</p>
<h3>&#8220;Mixed and Augmented Reality: &#8216;Scary and Wondrous&#8217;&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernor_Vinge" target="_blank">Vernor Vinge</a></h3>
<p><strong>&#8220;Imagine an environment where most physical objects know where they are, what they are, and can, (in principle) network with any other object. With this infrastructure, reality becomes its own database.Â  Multiple consensual virtual environments are possible, each oriented to the needs of its constituency.Â  If we also have open standards, then bottom-up social networks and even bottom up advertising become possible. Now imagine that in addition to sensors, many of these itsy-bitsy processors are equipped with effectors.Â  Then the physical world becomes much more like a software construct.Â  The possibilities are both scary and wondrous.&#8221;</strong> (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernor_Vinge" target="_blank">Vernor Vinge</a> -Â  intro to ISMAR 2009)</p>
<p>Vernor Vinge&#8217;s short intro to ISMAR 2009 (which can be downloaded with the <a href="http://www.ismar09.org/" target="_blank">ISMAR 2009 schedule here)</a> captures the essence of the &#8220;Scary and Wondrous&#8221; dawn of the age of ubiquitous computing and mixed and augmented reality.Â  It is definitely worth a moment to download.Â  The future of augmented and mixed realities, as Vernor Vinge points out, is tied up in a &#8220;tension between centralized and distributed computing&#8221; that &#8220;will continue long into the future.&#8221; One ofÂ  my fascinations with Wave is that it offers a tantalizing opportunity to explore augmented reality in an open distributed architecture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-12-at-2.40.39-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4586" title="Screen shot 2009-10-12 at 2.40.39 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-12-at-2.40.39-PM-300x154.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-12 at 2.40.39 PM" width="300" height="154" /></a></p>
<p>At ISMAR, I talked with as many people as possible about the AR Wave project &#8211; <a href="../../2009/10/13/ar-wave-layers-and-channels-of-social-augmented-experiences/" target="_blank">see my post here for more about Wave enabled AR</a>.Â  Many people were very enthusiastic to join the AR wave and the only thing I really lacked was about 100 invites to hand out!</p>
<h3>&#8220;Everything, Everywhere &#8211; making visible the invisible&#8221;</h3>
<p>Some of the areas that I would have liked to see given more attention on at ISMAR were sensor networks, data curation, and user experience.Â  Not that these areas were entirely neglected with Pattie Maes, MIT as a keynote speaker, and Mark Billinghurst presenting on some fascinating work on social augmented experiences and user experience.Â  I highly recommend catching up on these and other ISMAR presentations when the videos go up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4716" title="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 12.28.25 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-12.28.25-PM-300x57.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 12.28.25 PM" width="300" height="57" /></a></p>
<p>And, I was very happy to meet and talk to <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">Sean White</a> whose work at Columbia University is one of my inspirations (for more <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">about Sean&#8217;s work see here</a> or click image above):</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;the confluence of powerful connected mobile devices, advances in computer vision and sensing, and techniques such as augmented reality (AR) enables exciting new opportunities for interacting with this hidden network of dynamic information and shifts the locus of interaction from the desktop computer to the world around us&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And I had several very interesting conversationsÂ  at ISMAR about developing social augmented experiences that connect us to a physical world that is becoming &#8220;much more like a software construct&#8221; (Vernor Vinge).Â  Dirk Groten, CTO of Layar mentioned a few interesting projects Layar has up their sleeves, including somethingÂ  Layar may be cooking up with <a href="http://www.roomwareproject.org/" target="_blank">The RoomWare Project.</a></p>
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The picture above is of RoomWare&#8217;s Social RFID Installation for Media Plaza in Utrecht (<a href="http://blog.roomwareproject.org/2008/10/06/social-rfid-installation-for-media-plaza/">read more here</a>).</p>
<h3>Demos Galore!</h3>
<p>In the demo rooms,<a rel="cc:attributionURL" href="http://augmentation.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/ismar-ismar-ismar-where-to-start/augmentation.wordpress.com"> Noah Zerkin</a> (pic below left) pretty much single handedly carried the AR flag for a growing community of augmented reality Makers and Hackers.Â  But his presence was much appreciated, and he tirelessly demoed <a href="http://zerkinglove.com/" target="_blank">The Zerkin Glove.</a> See <a href="http://augmentation.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/ismar-ismar-ismar-where-to-start/" target="_blank">the first of what may be several posts from Noah on ISMAR here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/noah2post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4700" title="noah2post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/noah2post-300x199.jpg" alt="noah2post" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixgogglespost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4704" title="Tish&amp;Vuzixgogglespost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixgogglespost-300x199.jpg" alt="Tish&amp;Vuzixgogglespost" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>And I got to try out the Vuzix goggles (picture above on right).Â Â  This was my first experience playing an AR game that was smart about real world gravity. It&#8217;sÂ  &#8220;an <span>augmented reality</span> marble game that uses gravity as a <span>game controller</span>&#8221; &#8211; see <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/08/09/augmented-reality-has-gained-gravity/" target="_blank">Ori Inbar&#8217;s write up here</a>.Â  It was a very compelling experience and I have to say I didn&#8217;t really notice the shortcomings of the Vuzix goggles while I was absorbed in the game. AndÂ  I turned out to be quite good at the game too. It is intuitive unlike the kind ofÂ  rule based games I never have time to learn properly.Â  But what is so special about this project is the tools that it is built with are open, and available for all, and affordable (see this <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/08/09/augmented-reality-has-gained-gravity/" target="_blank">list on Games Alfresco</a>).</p>
<p>It was a great pleasure to meet <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~feiner/" target="_blank">Prof. Steven Feiner</a> (picture on below the left) who heads Columbia University&#8217;s brilliant AR research team at <a href="http://graphics.cs.columbia.edu/top.html" target="_blank">The Columbia University Graphics and User Interfaces Lab.</a></p>
<p>Ori Inbar (pic below on right) also spent a lot of time in the demo room showing off Ogmento&#8217;s lovely AR learning game that delighted attendees, <a href="http://ogmento.com/"><strong>â€œPut a Spell: Learn to Spell with Augmented Reality.â€</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4703" title="TishVuzixpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixpost-199x300.jpg" alt="TishVuzixpost" width="199" height="300" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Ogmentopost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4702" title="Ogmentopost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Ogmentopost-199x300.jpg" alt="Ogmentopost" width="199" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>For a round up ofÂ  what&#8217;s next for augmented reality head mounted displays check out, <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">Games Alfresco here</a>, and Thomas Carpenter&#8217;s excellent review of the <a href="http://thomaskcarpenter.com/2009/10/21/ismar09-hmd-review/">head mounted displays.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/GeorgandBlairpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4712" title="GeorgandBlairpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/GeorgandBlairpost-300x199.jpg" alt="GeorgandBlairpost" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/cypherpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4713" title="cypherpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/cypherpost-300x199.jpg" alt="cypherpost" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Ori Inbar on Games Alfresco asks is &#8220;Microsoft â€“ the new big player to watch</strong>?&#8221;Â Â  &#8220;<a href="http://www.robots.ox.ac.uk/%7Egk/" target="_blank">Georg Klein</a>, inventor of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBI5HwitBX4" target="_blank">PTAM-on-an-iPhone</a> (and the smartest Computer Vision guy on the block)&#8221; has joined Microsoft to make Mobile AR.</p>
<p>The picture on the left above shows Georg trying out <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cix3Ws2sOsU&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">ARhrrr</a> with Blair MacIntyre.Â Â  And on the right Blair is demoing his marker card pack to Senior Vice President of Cypher Entertainment, David Elmekies.Â  Yes ISMAR was abuzz with demos. See<a href="http://compscigail.blogspot.com/2009/10/ismar09-few-demos.html" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://compscigail.blogspot.com/2009/10/ismar09-few-demos.html" target="_blank">this post</a> from Gail Carmichael for more video demos.</p>
<h3>Next Year ISMAR 2010 in Korea!</h3>
<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ISMARBanquet.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4693" title="ISMARBanquet" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ISMARBanquet-300x199.jpg" alt="ISMARBanquet" width="300" height="199" /></a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: 0.800001em;"> </span></span></span>At the banquet, I managed to find a seat at a table with Sean White (at left in photo above with Christine Perey to his right) and the Columbia University team.Â  The banquet culminated with the â€œPast and Future of ISMARâ€ Panel chaired valiantly by Jay Wright of Qualcomm.Â  We were asked to offer our input for ISMAR 2010.Â  I offered up an idea that I have been nurturing for a while now -Â  to stage a &#8220;Green Tech AR Competition.&#8221;Â  Perhaps, I suggested, we could <span id="zx-." title="Click to view full content">base the competition around a conference (ISMAR 2010 in Korea?) and set up a target rich, instrumented environment for the occassion.Â  I think the Arduino open hardware community and AR developers have a synergy that is just waiting to be explored!Â  And, if we add the innovators of data curation to the mix, e.g., Pachube, AMEE, and Path Intelligence&#8230;(Markus Tripp left ISMAR to speak on a <a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2009" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Summit</a> panel, <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/humans_as_sensors.php" target="_blank">&#8220;Humans as Sensors,&#8221;</a> which also included Path Intelligence, Deborah Estrin on <a href="http://research.cens.ucla.edu/people/estrin/" target="_blank">&#8220;participatory sensing,&#8221;</a> and the brilliant work of <a href="http://twitter.com/dianneisnor" target="_blank">Di-Ann Eisnor</a>, <a href="http://platial.com/" target="_blank">Platial</a>, on &#8220;Transactional Cartography&#8221;).Â  Anyway a big Green tech AR competition could get people working together across the broad spread of AR terrain on some of the sticky problems of user experience.Â  And, with a high level of support from Smart Phone companies, HMDs manufacturers and the chip makers we just might come up with some extraordinary magic.<br />
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<p><span id="zx-." title="Click to view full content"> The devil of course will be in the details.Â  But a competition like this could not only motivate key players to come together in the spirit of coopetition but also be an opportunity to show the world the power of AR to make visible the invisible ecosystems that are so important to the health of our planet.<br />
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<p>One of the notable presences at ISMAR 2009 was the Qualcomm team.Â Â  Jay Wright&#8217;s presentation (an exclusive for ISMAR) not only outlined AR for 2012, but Jay also talked about some &#8220;close to the metal&#8221; innovation that we will see from Qualcomm very, very soon!Â  I had some time in the press room with Jay and his team prompted by <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/" target="_blank">MoMo&#8217;s </a>Yuri van Geest.Â  When I twittered about Qualcomm&#8217;s presentation at ISMAR, Yuri replied:<strong><br />
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<p><a href="http://twitter.com/vanGeest" target="_blank">vangeest</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/TishShute" target="_blank">&#8220;@tishshute</a>: good stuff, hopefully you will integrate the neat new solutions and ideas in your talk in November ;)&#8221;</p>
<p><strong> </strong>I will be presenting at <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/" target="_blank">MoMo #13</a> on AR, open AR, future of AR and GeoWeb,Â  and hopefully will bring some good news from Qualcomm too.Â  Anyway Jay seemed to like the idea of a Green Tech AR Competition, even though I did stress that I thought it needed some serious sponsorship and BIG prizes.</p>
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<h3>Where&#8217;s the beef? Tracking and Mapping at ISMAR 2009</h3>
<p>On the flight from NYC to Orlando and ISMAR&#8217;o9 I dozed (I had been up late preparing my presentation) and I watched the Dew Tour Pro Skateboard competition and Top Chef on the Food Channel.Â  In this particular episode of Top Chef, the aspiring chefs were all given a brown bag of ingredients by an already famous chef who then judged whether the contenders managed to make a delicious meal with their allotment which was notably lacking in key ingredients of haute cusine.</p>
<p>This metaphor ofÂ  trying to cook up a great meal while perhaps missing the staples is apt for the current early stage of commercial augmented reality.Â  And when I arrived in Orlando, not only were the Dew Tour pro skateboarders staying at the same hotel as ISMAR, but ISMAR itself felt remarkably like an Augmented Reality Top Chef Coopetition.</p>
<p>Much of ISMAR was dedicated to the task ofÂ  providing the meat and potatoes of Augmented Reality, solutions to mobile tracking, mapping and registration, particularly in the Science and Technology track.</p>
<p>Industrial and Military Augmented reality solutions I found out, typically, solve the tracking problems by using fixed mounts which clearly wouldn&#8217;t translate well into the AR everywhere with everything mobile consumer culture expects.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/DanielPustkapost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4679" title="DanielPustkapost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/DanielPustkapost-300x199.jpg" alt="DanielPustkapost" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-2.41.56-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4726" title="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 2.41.56 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-2.41.56-PM-300x208.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 2.41.56 PM" width="300" height="208" /></a></p>
<p><em>In the picture on the left Fabian Doil stands by the VW engine that provided some of the outdoor targets for the ISMAR tracking competition.Â  On the right is a picture from the VW&#8217;s presentation on their research and development of AR.</em></p>
<p>I followed the tracking contest, organized by Daniel Pustka and Fabian Doil of Volkswagen, quite closely. And I learned a lot in the process. WhileÂ  it is clear there has been progress in AR mapping and tracking, we still have a ways to go.</p>
<p>But hanging around the Tracking Competition was a good way to find out the state of play of this crucial part of the AR dream.Â  For example,Â  a little tidbit I learned is that <a href="http://www.gris.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~mgoesele/" target="_blank">Michael Goesele </a>who has been reconstructing &#8220;high-quality geometry models from images collected from the internet (so called community photo collections, CPC)&#8221; is soon to be at the <a href="http://www.ini-graphics.net/ini-graphicsnet/members/fraunhofer-institut-fuer-graphische-datenverarbeitung-igd.html" target="_blank">Institut Graphische Datenverarbeitung</a> where top contenders in the tracking contest &#8211; Harald WuestÂ  and Folker Weintipper (in the foreground of the photo at the left and right respectively) are also to be found. [update Harold and Folker were the winning team <a href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;pid=gmail&amp;attid=0.1&amp;thid=1248dd2927becb21&amp;mt=application%2Fpdf&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3De77cfddae9%26view%3Datt%26th%3D1248dd2927becb21%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zw&amp;sig=AHBy-hbcqUsaRNjbqpHO8vAF_vJqfDrMig" target="_blank">see here for details of scoring and results</a>!] Otto Korkalo and Tuomas Kantonen of VTT, Finland, Augmented Reality team are in the background. They have been working on the joint IBM, Nokia and VTT project that brings, <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/researchers-from-ibm-nokia-and-vtt-bring-avatars-and-people-together-for-virtual-meetings-in-physical-spaces-2009-10-19" target="_blank">Avatars and People Together for Virtual Meetings in Physical Spaces.</a></p>
<p>The picture on the right is another team that were doing very well. If my notes serve me well (and please forgive me if they don&#8217;t. I came back with my card wallet overflowing!) the photo on the right showsChristian Waechter (on the left) and Peter Keitler (on the right) of the <a href="http://portal.mytum.de/welcome" target="_blank">Technische Universitat Munchen</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trackingcompetitionpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4672" title="trackingcompetitionpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trackingcompetitionpost-300x199.jpg" alt="trackingcompetitionpost" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition2post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4681" title="Trackingcompetition2post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition2post-300x199.jpg" alt="Trackingcompetition2post" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>Germany is certainly leading the way in industrial AR. And I learned how small businesses like Metaio get to work with top research institutions and big companies like VW, thanks to very strong German funding program for AR and VR. The current iteration of a series of funding programs isÂ  called<a href="http://www.avilus.de/" target="_blank"> Avilus</a>.Â  AvilusÂ  is putting 42 million Euros into AR and VR this year alone (click on the slide below to see more about Avilus ).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-1.08.48-AM.png"><img title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 1.08.48 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-1.08.48-AM-300x212.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 1.08.48 AM" width="300" height="212" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-2.04.50-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4673" title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 2.04.50 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-2.04.50-AM-300x202.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 2.04.50 AM" width="300" height="202" /></a></p>
<p>I wish we had the equivalent of Avilus here in the US.Â  But there is no equivalent to Arvilus for AR here, andÂ  no AR isÂ  being developed by the US car industry either it seems.Â  But look at the slide above to get a taste of some of the cool stuff Metaio and other small AR and VR businesses do for VW through the Avilus project.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/VWtrackinggudrunpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4682" title="VWtrackinggudrunpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/VWtrackinggudrunpost-300x199.jpg" alt="VWtrackinggudrunpost" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>I also got to meet many people from one of the world&#8217;s most important AR hubs -Â  The Department of Informatics, <a href="http://portal.mytum.de/welcome" target="_blank">Technische Universitat Munchen</a>, including Prof. Gudren Klinker on the far right in pic above.Â  And from left to right, Fabian Doil (VW, co-organizer of contest), Sebastian Lieberknecht , Selim Ben Himane (Metaio), Tobias Eble (Metaio).Â  Prof. Klinker is the engine behind much of German innovation in AR.</p>
<p>Metaio was one of the few teams to rely mainly on markerless tracking which in this contest was very challenging because of the very different light conditions (see pics below) between the windowless interior and dazzling Florida sunshine outside (pic on the right shows targets under ideal lighting conditions).Â  Many people in the US may beÂ  familiar with Metaio&#8217;s consumer applications, like Junaio,Â  but thanks to Germany&#8217;s efforts to nurture augmented and virtual reality they are also respected software developers in industrial AR.Â  And I suspect that Metaio will spearhead markeless tracking in consumer AR too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition5post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4740" title="Trackingcompetition5post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition5post-300x199.jpg" alt="Trackingcompetition5post" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-7.47.44-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4745" title="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 7.47.44 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-7.47.44-PM-300x229.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 7.47.44 PM" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>This post as usual has already expanded to something much longer than I originally attended &#8211; pretty typical for me! There is much I have not been able to cover including some of the interesting contributions by augmented reality artists at ISMAR &#8211; again I recommend the upcoming videos.</p>
<p>But I cannot end without a hat tip to, Oriel, Nate et al. who won the best student paper award for AR Sketch &#8211; again please <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">see Games Alfresco for more on this</a> (pic below from Games Alfresco). AR Sketch, Ori notes, is featured &#8220;in our <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/16/ismar-2009-sketch-and-shape-recognition-preview-from-ben-gurion-university/" target="_self">top post</a> and popular <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4qZ0GLO5_A" target="_blank">video</a>.&#8221; And</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Their work is revolutionizing the AR world by avoiding the need to print markers â€“ or any images whatsoever.&#8221;</strong></p>
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