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		<description><![CDATA[Today Metaio is holding Inside AR in Munich, Germany.Â Â  Metaio (the picture above shows Metaio co-founders Thomas Alt and Peter Meier), is behind some of the best known commercial and industrial AR experiences of recent years.Â  But as important as the many AR projects they have executed are the AR tools that Metaio has made [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Today <a href="http://www.metaio.com/" target="_blank">Metaio</a> is holding <a href="http://www.metaio.com/insidear/" target="_blank">Inside AR</a> in Munich, Germany.Â Â  <span><span><span>Metaio (</span></span></span>the picture above shows Metaio co-founders Thomas Alt and Peter Meier)<span><span><span>,</span></span></span><span><span><span> is behind some of the best known commercial and industrial AR experiences of recent years.Â  But as important as the many AR projects they have executed are the AR tools that Metaio has made available to developers.Â  <a href="http://www.metaio.com/products/" target="_blank">Metaio&#8217;s AR products and tools</a> have played an important role in bringing AR to a wider public, and given many developers the opportunity to explore AR. </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span> </span></span></span><a href="http://www.metaio.com/insidear/" target="_blank">Inside AR</a> is a great opportunity to see what these AR pioneersÂ  will be up to in the coming months.Â Â  I could not make it to Munich this year.Â  But,<span><span><span> fortunately, I had the opportunity to talk with Thomas Alt, recently.Â Â  In this conversation &#8211; see below, I got a chance to discuss what was going on inside AR with Metaio.</span></span></span><span><span><span> </span></span></span></p>
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<p>The Fall season is always jam packed with great events, and I wish I could be in two places at once.Â  But this week, I will be in my home town, NYC, attending<span><span><span> <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo</a> which, reflecting the heat in the NYC tech community, is a sold out event with a very exciting schedule this year (more on some of the presentations that I will be attending later in this post).Â  If you missed out on tickets to Web 2.0 Expo, a</span></span></span><span><span><span>ll Keynotes <a href="http://is.gd/fpnwp" target="_blank">will be Streamed Live: TUES 9/28 to THURS 9/30</a>, and keep your eye on @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/w2e">w2e</a> and #w2e on twitter. </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span><span><span> </span></span></span>Meanwhile, I am missing<a href="http://www.metaio.com/insidear/" target="_blank"> Inside AR</a>, which had some great speakers lined up, including fellow New Yorker, John Swords, partner and Ringleader at <a href="http://circ.us/">Circ.us</a>.Â  Hopefully, Swords will share his experiences at next month&#8217;s <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">ARNY Meetup</a> which will be <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">&#8220;joining forces with another vibrant community &#8211; NY Gaming &#8211; for an unforgettable night of Augmented Reality Games&#8221;</a> on Tuesday, Oct 19th, 6:30 PM at <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/venue/?eventId=13799452&amp;popup=true&amp;venueId=1382669" target="_blank">AOL Ventures</a> in New York, NY.</p>
<p>At the most recent ARNY @swords gave a brilliant talk on the possibilities for AR Game development on the newly available opensource <a href="http://ardrone.parrot.com/parrot-ar-drone/usa/" target="_blank">Parrot ARDrone platform</a>.Â  It was great to hear from social game guru @swords on his plans for Parrot ARDrone games, and more.Â  The picture below of an <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnswords/4982892669/" target="_blank">ARDrone camera view is from John Swords Flickr set</a>.Â  Swords was flying it inside his garage because the winds outside were too strong.</p>
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<p>Also, I kicked off what will hopefully be an ongoing discussion on, <strong>&#8220;Story Telling with AR and the Big ARNY a collaborative AR Game for NY,&#8221;</strong> with a few slides.Â  I have opened up the presentation document for collaboration, so please ping me if you would like to be added as a contributor/editor, and are interested in getting involved.</p>
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<p><a href="http://ogmento.com/team" target="_blank">Ori Inbar</a>, CEO and co-founder of <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento</a>, <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/" target="_blank">Games Alfresco</a>, <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">ARNY</a> and my co-chair on <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/" target="_blank">Augmented Reality Event 2010</a>, suggested The Big ARNY &#8211; A Collaborative AR  Game Development Project modelled after A Swarm of Angels <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/12/06/augmented-reality-devcamp-nyc-the-big-arny-a-collaborative-ar-game-project-modeled-after-swarm-of-angels/" target="_blank">last year at the First ARNY Meetup</a> &#8211; so let&#8217;s make it happen!Â  I will be catching up with Ori in October about what Ogmento has been up to since they became <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/26/ogmento-first-ar-gaming-startup-to-win-vc-funding/" target="_blank">the first VC backed AR Game company</a>!</p>
<h3>&#8220;Games allow us to  see each other, for a moment, in a way that living in a city prevents&#8221; &#8211; Kevin Slavin</h3>
<p><span><span><span>I believe that, AR, to get beyond the stage of &#8220;interface du jour&#8221; needs to offer us new ways to relate to each other and the world around us so that we can actually improveÂ  and deepen our engagement with reality not just create experiences that are primarily opticalÂ  (see James Turner&#8217;s interview with Kevin Slavin <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank">&#8220;Reality has a gaming layer&#8221;</a> on not letting &#8220;</span></span></span>the pleasure of a game and the meaning of a game and the experience of a game rest primarily in the optics.<span><span><span>&#8220;Â  And see my recent post, </span></span></span><a title="Permanent Link to Urban Augmented Realities and Social Augmentations that Matter: Talking with Bruce Sterling, Part 2" rel="bookmark" href="../../2010/09/17/urban-augmented-realities-and-social-augmentations-that-matter-interview-with-bruce-sterling-part-2/">Urban Augmented Realities and Social Augmentations that Matter: Talking with Bruce Sterling, Part 2</a>).</p>
<p><span><span><span>Two of the most inspired creators of urban games,Â  Kevin Slavin and Kati London of <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" target="_blank">Area/Code </a> will be speaking at <a href="Web 2.0 Expo" target="_blank">Web 2.0. Expo</a> tomorrow. Â  And you can be sure I will be at both these sessions. </span></span></span><a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15258" target="_blank">Loitering on the Motherboard</a>, Kevin Slavin,<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-14:35"> </a>is <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-14:35">2:35pm</a> <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/grid/2010-09-28">Tuesday, 09/28/2010</a>, and <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">Games that Know Where you Live</a>,<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-16:55"> </a>Kati London &#8211; is a keynote that will also be <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/content/livestream">live streamed</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-16:55">4:55pm</a> <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/grid/2010-09-28">Tuesday, 09/28/2010</a></p>
<p><span><span><span> Recently <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/86516/?cmp=il-radar-conf-web2expony-slavin" target="_blank">Kevin Slavin</a> was interviewed by James Turner, on O&#8217;Reilly Radar.Â Â  This, </span></span></span><span><span><span><a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank">Reality has a gaming layar</a>,</span></span></span><span><span><span> is a must read piece about a &#8220;world where games shape life and life shapes games&#8221;Â  (<a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly/statuses/25413313179" target="_blank">see @timoreilly</a>).Â <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank"> </a></span></span></span></p>
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<h3>Interview with Thomas Alt</h3>
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<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Perhaps you could just start with your background Thomas because I think thereâ€™s a lot of newcomers to AR but you are really one of the first movers in commercial AR.  How long youâ€™ve been involved in this?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt:  Actually Iâ€™m an ex-researcher in augmented reality.  I started with me actually after getting my masterâ€™s work in engineering from the Technical University of Munich working for a big company called Volkswagen.  And at that time,1999, we got a research grant for researching how augmented reality could change manufacturing processes in the automobile industry.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And from the research work there, I basically went back to school, did my PhD about augmented reality. And while speaking at a conference, I met Peter Meier who is the co-founder of the company who was also a masterâ€™s student writing his thesis about augmented reality.  That was in 2002.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And so it really was in the very early days of augmented reality. And both Peter and myself we got really excited about the technology; we saw endless possibilities.  We said, â€˜OK. Letâ€™s just found a company.  We actually founded the company in early 2003 with virtually no money. As a matter of fact the founding capital of the company was 25,000 Euros and this 25,000 Euros were won in a case competition in Germany &#8211; a business plan competition.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So you won 25,000 Euros on this case competition and thatâ€™s where Metaio started&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Exactly.  And to legally found a company in Germany it takes exactly 25,000 Euros so that was the founding capital.  We started pretty much like good old SAP started.Â  It wasnâ€™t in a garage though it was a very small office and we basically built up the business through work,  so we donâ€™t have any investors or whatever.  Right now we are 66 people located in Munich where our headquarters have been for five years. We have some presence in the US, and we have a venture company in Seoul, South Korea.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Awesome. I just noticed how fast youâ€™ve been growing.  So right now, Iâ€™m going to ask a couple of questions about where you see the technology and the emerging industry going.</p>
<p>First, what are the platform of choice for Mobile Augmented Reality at the moment?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Obviously in the cellphone hardware space there&#8217;s a fierce competition going on. It&#8217;s yet to be defined what will be the prevailing platform right now, obviously it&#8217;s the iPhone is big now, right? But Android is catching on very, very fast.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>You have pioneered bringing a cross platform SDK for vision assisted AR to a wide community of developers with Junaio and with your partnership with<a href="http://www.kooaba.com/" target="_blank"> Kooaba</a> &#8211; a visual search company from Europe.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yes, yes, and this is how we would, also in the future like to position ourselves with Junaio.Â  Junaio will be a platform, a technology platform, which will allow users to do whatever they want to do in augmented reality.  The API of Junaio is huge in the sense you can do anything from outdoor gaming, to visual search, to normal, uh, lay out style, you know, find the next burger king a mile away kind of super impositions.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>The only licensing you pay is for unifeye right? When you want to use your tool kit right?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yes and this is how weâ€™re distinguishing it.  Junaio is our consumer brand targeting newbie AR developers, with limited programming skills,  while the Unifeye platform is really our B to B platform where B to B customers can create their individual AR experiences.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yes which is what my friend Patrick Oâ€™Shaughnessey, <a href="http://patchedreality.com/" target="_blank">Patched Reality</a>, did for the Ben and Jerry&#8217;s app he created using Unifeye.<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: exactly&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> It is a lot of work developing for so different mobile platforms isnâ€™t it.  Junaio is on Android and iphone but you havent moved Junaio to Symbian?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: To be honest with you right now its a matter of priorities we have other things we want to do first.  And from analyzing the user base, iphone was a big step Android was a big step and now we are pretty much seeing what is happening next.  As you know Nokia going into different directions as far as their smart phone operating system goes, and so on and so forth.Â  There are also capacity constraints.  And right now obviously the most &#8211; potentially not the most possible users, but the users most inclined to do AR on a day to day basis are the ones using the iphone and android devices.  But obviously there are a lot bigger cellphone manufacturers out there.Â   But just you know even the mobile web users arenâ€™t as strong as the users on the iphone and android devices?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>So what do you think the  iphone 4 has that brought to the AR picture?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Very fast camera access, very good for marker recognition.  If you go to the Metaio site you&#8217;ll find a movie where we show on the iphone 4 app for a real augmented reality Leggo peice &#8211; this is something which is very nice</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yes I see that, yes that is nice, yes, yes very nice. The Unifeye SDK is really putting markerless AR into the mainstream.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yesterday we launched the first, a err very nice shopping&#8230; shopping solution for , but that&#8217;s completely external.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh yes &#8211; the augmented reality shopping for seventeen.com, i was going to ask you about that, because it is the first augmented reality online shopping using natural feature tracking.</p>
<p>Also I am very excited to see the gestural interface, awesome!</p>
<p>The seventeen augmented reality shopping app is a PC experience but are you working on developing gestural interfaces for mobile AR?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: We are continually pushing the envelope of whatâ€™s possible with AR. Gestural interfaces for mobile AR is certainly the next step in taking what weâ€™ve done on the PC and making it more portable by using the mobile platform. One thing to keep in mind here is the limitations of mobile platforms and size of the screen needs to fit and make sense for the user experience.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I know you started off as an AR researcher (although as you mentioned earlier you have been working in commercial AR and building Metaio for a long while now.</p>
<p>So in addition to how we are progressing towards gestural interfaces for augmented reality, I would like to ask some questions about AR eyewear.  We wonâ€™t really have hands free AR without eyewear.   What is your projection on when we will see consumer AR eyewear? And, Do you have a any comments on those speculating that we will not see AR eyewear go mainstream for 20years?! What is Metaio doing to move eyewear technology along?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Well as you know, it&#8217;s always, you know on the technological roadmap, and we&#8217;re still doing research projects,  in our AR research department.   We have worked on things like calibrating eyewear for augmented reality.   There is some nice development there.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But really, commercially, the whole thing with eyewear has never caught on on a level which would make it a valuable avenue, business avenue, at least for Metaio.   So, I guess as an ex-researcher, it&#8217;s still a very interesting, a very good technology.  And it would definitely change the marketplace radically when available.  But as per right now, there are very few commercial applications.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Are the obstacles to AR eyewear technological obstacles or is it just a question of a a business model.  I mean is it realistic to see eyewear in the next 3 to 5 years at a price point affordable to consumers, where you really, truly can have eye tracking? You know, the whole problem there was with virtual reality and eyewear giving people a headache.   How far have we come in terms of the technology?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Well, it&#8217;s not so much technological factors &#8217;cause all fundamental problems are solved. It&#8217;s more a rather large corporation, I guess, would have to step up to the plate and say okay, do, let&#8217;s get all the state of the art in electronics and develop just a perfect HMD.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Something Yohan Baillotâ€™s company <a href="http://www.simulation3d.biz/" target="_blank">Simulation 3D</a> is doing at is looking at is hooking up eyewear to smart phones.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yes exactly that would be even better. Metaio has done a strategic move into this HMD space for augmented reality about a year ago by acquiring a bankrupt company.  I mean, we had considerable IP around it from our research base but in the long term we still believe in it and we did a move about a year ago in buying what was left over from a bankrupt company including a lot of IP, which basically goes into the direction of mobile augmented reality but also mobile augmented reality in connection with head mounted displays.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thereâ€™s actually a press release about this but that&#8217;s about a year ago&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>I know that the whole HMD thing&#8230; I mean, I&#8217;ve seen companies come and go. Metaio has worked previously, very closely, with Microvision of Seattle.  We have worked with a German company, doing HMDs and we have worked with Vuzix.Â  We are still working with Vuzix, so we&#8217;re still consider it very valuable.Â  But right now, I mean, it&#8217;s just not a big part of our commercial pipeline, to put it that way.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> It was interesting what Bruce Sterling said in <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/06/06/are-2010-keynote-by-bruce-sterling-build-a-big-pie/" target="_blank">his keynote at ARE 2010</a>.Â  He actually made a strong case for why smart phone augmented reality may be more interesting because it&#8217;s less immersive. I mean, he raised the question of the fact that if you really truly had AR eyewear and HMDs you&#8217;d re-enter the world of virtual reality or as he called it ARâ€™s Gothic step sister VR would rise from the grave&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yeah, well, that&#8217;s a cultural or even a philosophical question and we have discussed it a lot, especially in the industrial domain. Also will the deployment of HMDs come about from end consumers using it in their spare time, or from professional users using the idea in their work time?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Do you think it surprised people who have been working in augmented reality research how much people have engaged with the idea of smart phones as the mediating device for AR, and that rather than having the always on experience that eyewear would give us, we use smart phones as a magic lens of a smart phone when we need to or want to.  Some people were skeptical that anyone would want to hold up a little window to look at augmentations of the world &#8211; a magic lens.   I mean, it wasn&#8217;t self-evident that that would be an experience people enjoyed, and it turns out that it was.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: That&#8217;s actually a very good analogy. And also in my view, I mean, certain behaviors just change also, right? I mean, this is exactly what Apple&#8217;s trying with the iPad, right? You&#8217;re taking the iPad, and all of the sudden you&#8217;re not constrained to a laptop or whatever. And it&#8217;s truly a companion of the couch, in-bed Web, in the kitchen, and so on and so forth. So digital usage with the iPad, which is a different market, and I&#8217;m aware of that but as an example, the iPad has changed our behavior. And obviously, the augmented reality guys are hoping that something similar happens with AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Which of course brings up the question, I&#8217;m assuming that some of the next generation of slates/ipads are going to have front and back cameras, GPS, and compass, right?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Actually we know that.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>You know that, yes. I assume that you know that, because are you working on some prototypes, and have you got some plans?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: You have to understand that I cannot talk as I&#8217;ve talked as a researcher. It&#8217;s the rules, so I have to be a little bit careful about what I say. We very much think that a webpad, or whatever pad, you would want to call it is on some occasions very good device for AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah. But it is an interesting point with holding up a larger device, because you hands aren&#8217;t free,  but the neat thing about the phone for augmented reality is that you really can do a lot with your thumb, as we&#8217;ve found and just the position of the phone.  But, how will this work it with the two hands on the larger device?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Keep in mind, everyone&#8217;s talking about mobile augmented reality, but really where the case for augmented reality, at this point, is the strongest is in the installation business, it&#8217;s in the web business&#8230; Not necessarily only commercially, but also use case-wise. There are tons of museums out there which are using our augmented reality system in an installation fashion, and to communicate products better, and more efficiently, and so on, and so forth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So, I know that the hype is clearly on the mobile augmented reality side, but there are many examples augmented reality experiences where holding up a larger device is not a big obstacl</strong>e.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Well this brings me to some questions about the future of mobile AR.  My interview with Jay Wright focused on how we are now in a new period for AR bringing together computer vision, visual search into a mobile stack that is really optimized for AR.   What do you see emerging in mobile AR as we move beyond compass, GPS, camera, accelerometer based AR into markless image-based AR.   What will the new use cases and where will we see mainstream users getting in AR.   Will AR games be the first mainstream AR experiences?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: My partner is actually, first of all, one of my best friends, second of all, very emotional, third of all, very intelligent, and he said the other day something I think very valuable in this area. He said, basically think about Mobile Augmented Reality, Thomas. There&#8217;s really a very limited number of use cases which you can do if you look at these classical Point and Find applications, ok? But there are almost unlimited number of use cases when Augmented Reality becomes a day to day companion, ok? So what he meant is, ok, I&#8217;m looking at my normal day&#8230; I&#8217;m looking at the city, I&#8217;m walking throughout this, I&#8217;m coming home, I&#8217;m having dinner basically. I can deploy Augmented Reality in a pure POI search fashion perhaps not even once. Ok when I&#8217;m travelling it&#8217;s a different story, but in an ordinary day I might use a POI search not even once.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But where this ultimately leads, you know, is even in the 15 minutes I&#8217;m having breakfast, I&#8217;m using AR &#8211; looking at the cereal box with my cell phone, I&#8217;m taking part in a sweepstakes or whatever. So from that we draw the conclusion that as a general strategy for Junaio, we should basically throw as much technology as possible into Junaio, make it halfway self-explanatory, and just give people the possibility to come up with ideas on how to deploy augmented reality continuously.</strong></p>
<p><strong>We have actually got a creative team from an Art School working on that, and just, you know, with very little programming skills coming up with things you can do with Augmented Reality on a day-to-day level. And it could be a scavenger hunt game, in the city, with monsters flying around, it could be the normal POI routine, it could be marketing purposes, and so on and so forth. And I think that&#8217;s really the roadmap, and this is a little bit similar on a more technical level, to what Qualcomm is doing, &#8217;cause they&#8217;re floating out possibilities or capabilities I want to call them, and Metaio is doing that, but on a higher level [re the tools] meaning on a Junaio level.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Junaio is a capability platform.  It is also a way for Metaio to demonstrate the capabilities of our technology.  We will offer all the  possibilities for AR and more that we have already demonstrated on PC augmented reality.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What is the business model for Junaio?   Are you encouraging developers to develop business on your platform ?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Junaio is our end consumer platform and our business model is similar to the way Google structures its business model. We work with OEMs, content partners, brands, and developers to offer free content to our end users. Where we do charge is on the advertising side, more specifically contextual and location based advertising. At the current stage, we are focused on building the content base, fostering our developer community, but in the near future, we will be introducing advertising channels.</strong></p>
<p><strong>First of all you have to have very good use cases in the platform basically. And then to put a business model on top of that from a technology stand point is not hard &#8211; its a pay channel.  Its all prepared for this.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>You have quite a broad base as a company donâ€™t you &#8211; you do everything from industrial AR, marketing to technology licensing and more?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Basically, thereâ€™s a lot of things people donâ€™t see us.  There is also the Unifeye PC SDK and we have a client base and partners who are sourcing software from us, and we are doing great pieces. I mean the hype of augmented reality is really coming to a peak. There are lots of pieces that are not even talked about any more.  Chinaâ€™s GQ magazine launched with AR from Metaio, the biggest AR campaign anywhere &#8211; there are a lot of potential readers in China.  And um, so thatâ€™s our business model&#8230; we have our IP, our patents and so on. And on this we can move on onto the mobile platform whenever itâ€™s advisable or feasible.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right. Yeah. I mean uh, youâ€™re very fortunate to have this base built on uh, years of developing IP.  What are the most important areas of AR that Metaio holds IP and patents in, in your view?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: thereâ€™s sleepless nights in that too&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>So far we&#8217;re extremely excited about what&#8217;s going on with Junaio, it&#8217;s one of our big, big success stories. But we are sensible and trying to experiment because, you know, analogies from the past won&#8217;t really work in my view for Augmented Reality in a sense, that, you know, you better bring for a new system to fly, for a new technology to fly, you better bring a very concrete use case to the table, ok? And a well-defined use case. And we are, right now, with Junaio, in a state where we are checking out what could be such a very defined use case.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So how many users does Junaio have now?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Let&#8217;s put it that way, we are, especially in the last 2 months, we are very satisfied. But we are not disclosing that, because users, and we&#8217;re seeing that from the competitive landscape, always needs 1 page of description what exactly a user is.</strong></p>
<p><strong>You understand what I&#8217;m saying? So this is why, &#8217;cause we don&#8217;t want to up or downplay things, we are very careful saying, with users. Because I mean we have people who are actually also commercially very interested in Junaio&#8230;Â  We go through with them and discuss what exactly a user is. Cause there&#8217;s more then&#8230;a download is not a user. An app or something on your phone is not a user, basically, in my opinion.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I am still waiting to see someone do something with AR and the Four Square API, or now the Facebook Places API.  Do you see an interesting potential in the marriage of the rapidly emerging location based social networking space and augmented reality?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Definitely. Augmented reality offers a way for users to find information around them easily. Adding in the social networking component such as geo-tagging, rating, commenting can enhance the user experience and create engagement beyond just viewing the information. For example, within junaio, an average user can create their own personal channel and geo-tag photos or leave text messages at different locations. They can create a virtual tour of San Francisco and share it with their friends. By connecting the social side with good content, the augmented reality experience becomes more fun and interactive.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> And, of course, thereâ€™s the Junaio API.  Are you beginning to see developers use that?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yeah exactly, I mean if you go to Junaio.com, you can get a login, you have an API description. And the way it works is, that you bascially set up a call, which contains the information you would like to have in your individual channel. You submit it to us, it will get checked for profanity and other things, basically. And then we admit it to Junaio basically. The API is huge.Â Â  You can also use Junaio indoors.</strong></p>
<p><strong>This is very relevant. And there&#8217;s a tool chain for that, and so on and so forth. You can do mission-based search with Junaio. It&#8217;s in there, it&#8217;s called Junaio Glue. And there will be another very interesting feature coming up in a couple of weeks. And you can just do it, you can do a scavenger hunt, a game, normal POI search, and so on and so forth. And it&#8217;s all active. And that&#8217;s, what&#8217;s sometimes difficult for us to communicate, is it&#8217;s really a capabilities platform, but on the other hand it&#8217;s obviously very good to developers. And I mean on the developers side there&#8217;s huge interest.</strong></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.ismar09.org/" target="_blank">ISMAR 2009</a> -Â  was an extraordinary mix ofÂ  high geek, academic eminence, gungho Dutch Cowboy entrepreneurial spirit, German engineering and industry, brilliant artistry, and invention, all fueled by a sense, and a very active presence in the case of Diamond Sponsor &#8211; Qualcomm, that the big technology players are waking up to augmented reality.</p>
<p>In the picture sequence above (click on photos to enlarge),Â  <a href="http://twitter.com/metaioUS" target="_blank">Noora </a><span><span><a href="http://twitter.com/metaioUS" target="_blank">Guldemond</a></span></span><span><span>, <a href="http://www.metaio.com/" target="_blank">Metaio</a>, demonstrates <a href="http://www.junaio.com/" target="_blank">Junaio</a> (coming to an iphone near you Nov 2nd) to <a href="http://twitter.com/dirkgroten" target="_blank">Dirk Groten</a>, CTO of<a href="http://layar.com/" target="_blank"> Layar</a> (top left photo).Â  One of the nice social features of Junaio is that users can share the 3D augmented scenes they have created.Â  Noora is demoing this capability to </span></span><span><span>Dirk, and as you can see he cracks up when he sees theÂ  scene Noora has stored on her phone.Â  Dirk and I both recognize that this cute little dinosaur augmentation (close up above on bottom left) must have been created by <a href="http://www.metaio.com/company/" target="_blank">Peter Meier, CTO of Metaio</a>, during the Interoperability and Standards workshop earlier that day.Â  Metaio it seems were discussing standards while enjoying some 3D augmented back chat.<br />
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<p><span><span> Both Dirk and I were active participants in the workshop too.Â  But little did we know that Peter Meier had introduced his little 3D dinosaur into our discussion while we diligently, and sometimes heatedly, debated the merits of XMPP, Wave Federation Protocol,Â  KML, ARML, VRML, X3D, andÂ  more!Â  The photo I took is on the bottom right of the four pics above. It was probably taken very shortly after Peter&#8217;s augmented Junaio scene.Â  Of course there is no little dinosaur in my pic ofÂ  Dirk Groten with <a href="http://twitter.com/JoeLudwig" target="_blank">Joe Ludwig</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/markustripp" target="_blank">Markus Tripp of Mobilizy</a> who were discussing AR standards oblivious to Peter&#8217;s virtual pet in our midst.<br />
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<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/MarkusTrippPeterMeier.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4685" title="MarkusTrippPeterMeier" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/MarkusTrippPeterMeier-300x199.jpg" alt="MarkusTrippPeterMeier" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4686" title="Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost-300x199.jpg" alt="Thereisawillingnesstostandardizepost" width="300" height="199" /></a><br />
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<p><span><span>I must say I had noticed an impish look on Peter Meier&#8217;s face (see photo above on the left &#8211; Peter is wearing glasses and holding a phone).Â  And Markus Tripp, of MobilizyÂ  revealed a little bit of gaming of his own, when he let out that, in part, ARML is a provocation.Â  But Peter was clearly unfazed and enjoying himself.Â  Dirk, tasked to summarize our discussion, stalwartly maintained an optimistic but serious tone fitting for a standards discussion:Â  &#8220;There is a willingness to standardize&#8230;.,&#8221; he began (pic above on left &#8211; click to enlarge and read text). </span></span></p>
<p><span><span> But it was a little 3D dinosaur that, perhaps appropriately, had the last laugh. Fitting, as I am not sure whether anything anyone says about AR standards at the moment will hold up.Â  But, as Ori commented in <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">his great post &#8211; an epilogue for ISMAR 2009,</a> the vibe was &#8220;Peace and Love&#8221; in AR Browser land (</span></span>although Chetan Damani of <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/?s=%22acrossair%22" target="_blank">Across Air</a> was not in the standards discussion because he attended the UX/content? workshop instead)<span><span>.Â  But as they say, &#8220;all&#8217;s fair in love and war.&#8221;Â  And it is my feeling the games have barely begun!Â  There are many players (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI4lB00Ht9o&amp;feature=player_embedded#" target="_blank">virtual pets </a>included) waiting in the wings. I met some at ISMAR, and they are just itching to join the frey.<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/coopetitionpost.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ARConsortiumpost2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4701" title="ARConsortiumpost2" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ARConsortiumpost2-300x188.jpg" alt="ARConsortiumpost2" width="300" height="188" /></a><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4690" title="coopetitionpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/coopetitionpost-300x185.jpg" alt="coopetitionpost" width="300" height="185" /></p>
<p><span><span>Ori Inbar, <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento </a>and Robert Rice, <a href="http://www.neogence.com/#/home" target="_blank">Neogence Enterprises</a>, both founders of the <a href="http://www.arconsortium.org/" target="_blank">AR Consortium</a>, made great efforts to set our young industry off on the right foot -Â  in theÂ  spirit of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopetition" target="_blank">coopetition </a>(</span></span>a <a title="Neologism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism">neologism</a> coined to describe <a title="Co-operation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operation">cooperative</a> <a title="Competition" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition">competition)</a><span><span>. See </span></span><a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">Curious Raven for </a><a href="http://curiousraven.squarespace.com/home/2009/10/23/ismar-09-observations-and-comments.html" target="_blank">Robert&#8217;s conference observations</a>, and <span><span><a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">Ori&#8217;s post on Games Alfresco</a> for more about </span></span>Mobile Augmented Reality at ISMAR 2009.Â  The Mobile Augmented Reality Workshops were driven by an indomitable spokesperson for the new AR industry, <a href="http://www.perey.com/" target="_blank">Christine Perey</a>.Â  Christine not only helped motivate discussion on the issue of oxygen to the system, i.e. business value, but also she was a very generous connector at the conference.</p>
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<h3>What&#8217;s Next From Augmented Reality&#8217;s Top Chefs?</h3>
<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-7.15.58-PM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-7.12.35-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4692" title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 7.12.35 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-7.12.35-PM-300x196.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 7.12.35 PM" width="300" height="196" /></a><br />
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<p>As Ori pointed out, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0218033/" target="_blank">Kent Demaine</a>, <a href="http://www.ooo-ii.com/" target="_blank">oooii</a> (pic above is from the oooii web site), Minority report VFX designer was hanging out at ISMAR 2009 and he came to the panel I was on: &#8220;Augmented Reality in Sports,Â  Entertainment and Advertising.&#8221;Â  We chatted afterwords about instrumented environments and how this is such a key to development interesting augmented experiences.Â  Also I mentioned how back in the day I was involved in some of the early development of motion control software.Â  And it was great to hear Kent say they were still finding motion control cool at <a href="http://www.ooo-ii.com/" target="_blank">oooii</a>.Â  As Ori notes, he is the &#8220;guy with the most enviable AR credentials in the world (the guy who designed VFX for minority report)<strong>,&#8221;</strong><strong> </strong>and <a href="http://www.ooo-ii.com/" target="_blank">oooii</a> is busy and hiring.</p>
<p>One of the highlights of the Arts, Media and Humanities track for me was meeting <a href="http://jarrellpair.com/" target="_blank">JarrellÂ  Pair.</a> He really brought the best out in panelists with his well tuned questions.Â  The recording of ISMAR was comprehensive and videos should be up next week.Â  I will post the slides on Ugotrade of my presentation:Â  &#8220;The Next Wave of AR: Shared Augmented Realities and Remix Culture.&#8221;.</p>
<h3>&#8220;Mixed and Augmented Reality: &#8216;Scary and Wondrous&#8217;&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernor_Vinge" target="_blank">Vernor Vinge</a></h3>
<p><strong>&#8220;Imagine an environment where most physical objects know where they are, what they are, and can, (in principle) network with any other object. With this infrastructure, reality becomes its own database.Â  Multiple consensual virtual environments are possible, each oriented to the needs of its constituency.Â  If we also have open standards, then bottom-up social networks and even bottom up advertising become possible. Now imagine that in addition to sensors, many of these itsy-bitsy processors are equipped with effectors.Â  Then the physical world becomes much more like a software construct.Â  The possibilities are both scary and wondrous.&#8221;</strong> (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernor_Vinge" target="_blank">Vernor Vinge</a> -Â  intro to ISMAR 2009)</p>
<p>Vernor Vinge&#8217;s short intro to ISMAR 2009 (which can be downloaded with the <a href="http://www.ismar09.org/" target="_blank">ISMAR 2009 schedule here)</a> captures the essence of the &#8220;Scary and Wondrous&#8221; dawn of the age of ubiquitous computing and mixed and augmented reality.Â  It is definitely worth a moment to download.Â  The future of augmented and mixed realities, as Vernor Vinge points out, is tied up in a &#8220;tension between centralized and distributed computing&#8221; that &#8220;will continue long into the future.&#8221; One ofÂ  my fascinations with Wave is that it offers a tantalizing opportunity to explore augmented reality in an open distributed architecture.</p>
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<p>At ISMAR, I talked with as many people as possible about the AR Wave project &#8211; <a href="../../2009/10/13/ar-wave-layers-and-channels-of-social-augmented-experiences/" target="_blank">see my post here for more about Wave enabled AR</a>.Â  Many people were very enthusiastic to join the AR wave and the only thing I really lacked was about 100 invites to hand out!</p>
<h3>&#8220;Everything, Everywhere &#8211; making visible the invisible&#8221;</h3>
<p>Some of the areas that I would have liked to see given more attention on at ISMAR were sensor networks, data curation, and user experience.Â  Not that these areas were entirely neglected with Pattie Maes, MIT as a keynote speaker, and Mark Billinghurst presenting on some fascinating work on social augmented experiences and user experience.Â  I highly recommend catching up on these and other ISMAR presentations when the videos go up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4716" title="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 12.28.25 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-12.28.25-PM-300x57.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 12.28.25 PM" width="300" height="57" /></a></p>
<p>And, I was very happy to meet and talk to <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">Sean White</a> whose work at Columbia University is one of my inspirations (for more <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">about Sean&#8217;s work see here</a> or click image above):</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;the confluence of powerful connected mobile devices, advances in computer vision and sensing, and techniques such as augmented reality (AR) enables exciting new opportunities for interacting with this hidden network of dynamic information and shifts the locus of interaction from the desktop computer to the world around us&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And I had several very interesting conversationsÂ  at ISMAR about developing social augmented experiences that connect us to a physical world that is becoming &#8220;much more like a software construct&#8221; (Vernor Vinge).Â  Dirk Groten, CTO of Layar mentioned a few interesting projects Layar has up their sleeves, including somethingÂ  Layar may be cooking up with <a href="http://www.roomwareproject.org/" target="_blank">The RoomWare Project.</a></p>
<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-10.03.00-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4697" title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 10.03.00 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-10.03.00-PM-300x231.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 10.03.00 PM" width="300" height="231" /></a><br />
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The picture above is of RoomWare&#8217;s Social RFID Installation for Media Plaza in Utrecht (<a href="http://blog.roomwareproject.org/2008/10/06/social-rfid-installation-for-media-plaza/">read more here</a>).</p>
<h3>Demos Galore!</h3>
<p>In the demo rooms,<a rel="cc:attributionURL" href="http://augmentation.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/ismar-ismar-ismar-where-to-start/augmentation.wordpress.com"> Noah Zerkin</a> (pic below left) pretty much single handedly carried the AR flag for a growing community of augmented reality Makers and Hackers.Â  But his presence was much appreciated, and he tirelessly demoed <a href="http://zerkinglove.com/" target="_blank">The Zerkin Glove.</a> See <a href="http://augmentation.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/ismar-ismar-ismar-where-to-start/" target="_blank">the first of what may be several posts from Noah on ISMAR here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/noah2post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4700" title="noah2post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/noah2post-300x199.jpg" alt="noah2post" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixgogglespost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4704" title="Tish&amp;Vuzixgogglespost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixgogglespost-300x199.jpg" alt="Tish&amp;Vuzixgogglespost" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>And I got to try out the Vuzix goggles (picture above on right).Â Â  This was my first experience playing an AR game that was smart about real world gravity. It&#8217;sÂ  &#8220;an <span>augmented reality</span> marble game that uses gravity as a <span>game controller</span>&#8221; &#8211; see <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/08/09/augmented-reality-has-gained-gravity/" target="_blank">Ori Inbar&#8217;s write up here</a>.Â  It was a very compelling experience and I have to say I didn&#8217;t really notice the shortcomings of the Vuzix goggles while I was absorbed in the game. AndÂ  I turned out to be quite good at the game too. It is intuitive unlike the kind ofÂ  rule based games I never have time to learn properly.Â  But what is so special about this project is the tools that it is built with are open, and available for all, and affordable (see this <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/08/09/augmented-reality-has-gained-gravity/" target="_blank">list on Games Alfresco</a>).</p>
<p>It was a great pleasure to meet <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~feiner/" target="_blank">Prof. Steven Feiner</a> (picture on below the left) who heads Columbia University&#8217;s brilliant AR research team at <a href="http://graphics.cs.columbia.edu/top.html" target="_blank">The Columbia University Graphics and User Interfaces Lab.</a></p>
<p>Ori Inbar (pic below on right) also spent a lot of time in the demo room showing off Ogmento&#8217;s lovely AR learning game that delighted attendees, <a href="http://ogmento.com/"><strong>â€œPut a Spell: Learn to Spell with Augmented Reality.â€</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4703" title="TishVuzixpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/TishVuzixpost-199x300.jpg" alt="TishVuzixpost" width="199" height="300" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Ogmentopost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4702" title="Ogmentopost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Ogmentopost-199x300.jpg" alt="Ogmentopost" width="199" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>For a round up ofÂ  what&#8217;s next for augmented reality head mounted displays check out, <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">Games Alfresco here</a>, and Thomas Carpenter&#8217;s excellent review of the <a href="http://thomaskcarpenter.com/2009/10/21/ismar09-hmd-review/">head mounted displays.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/GeorgandBlairpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4712" title="GeorgandBlairpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/GeorgandBlairpost-300x199.jpg" alt="GeorgandBlairpost" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/cypherpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4713" title="cypherpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/cypherpost-300x199.jpg" alt="cypherpost" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Ori Inbar on Games Alfresco asks is &#8220;Microsoft â€“ the new big player to watch</strong>?&#8221;Â Â  &#8220;<a href="http://www.robots.ox.ac.uk/%7Egk/" target="_blank">Georg Klein</a>, inventor of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBI5HwitBX4" target="_blank">PTAM-on-an-iPhone</a> (and the smartest Computer Vision guy on the block)&#8221; has joined Microsoft to make Mobile AR.</p>
<p>The picture on the left above shows Georg trying out <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cix3Ws2sOsU&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">ARhrrr</a> with Blair MacIntyre.Â Â  And on the right Blair is demoing his marker card pack to Senior Vice President of Cypher Entertainment, David Elmekies.Â  Yes ISMAR was abuzz with demos. See<a href="http://compscigail.blogspot.com/2009/10/ismar09-few-demos.html" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://compscigail.blogspot.com/2009/10/ismar09-few-demos.html" target="_blank">this post</a> from Gail Carmichael for more video demos.</p>
<h3>Next Year ISMAR 2010 in Korea!</h3>
<p><span><span><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ISMARBanquet.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4693" title="ISMARBanquet" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ISMARBanquet-300x199.jpg" alt="ISMARBanquet" width="300" height="199" /></a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: 0.800001em;"> </span></span></span>At the banquet, I managed to find a seat at a table with Sean White (at left in photo above with Christine Perey to his right) and the Columbia University team.Â  The banquet culminated with the â€œPast and Future of ISMARâ€ Panel chaired valiantly by Jay Wright of Qualcomm.Â  We were asked to offer our input for ISMAR 2010.Â  I offered up an idea that I have been nurturing for a while now -Â  to stage a &#8220;Green Tech AR Competition.&#8221;Â  Perhaps, I suggested, we could <span id="zx-." title="Click to view full content">base the competition around a conference (ISMAR 2010 in Korea?) and set up a target rich, instrumented environment for the occassion.Â  I think the Arduino open hardware community and AR developers have a synergy that is just waiting to be explored!Â  And, if we add the innovators of data curation to the mix, e.g., Pachube, AMEE, and Path Intelligence&#8230;(Markus Tripp left ISMAR to speak on a <a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2009" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Summit</a> panel, <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/humans_as_sensors.php" target="_blank">&#8220;Humans as Sensors,&#8221;</a> which also included Path Intelligence, Deborah Estrin on <a href="http://research.cens.ucla.edu/people/estrin/" target="_blank">&#8220;participatory sensing,&#8221;</a> and the brilliant work of <a href="http://twitter.com/dianneisnor" target="_blank">Di-Ann Eisnor</a>, <a href="http://platial.com/" target="_blank">Platial</a>, on &#8220;Transactional Cartography&#8221;).Â  Anyway a big Green tech AR competition could get people working together across the broad spread of AR terrain on some of the sticky problems of user experience.Â  And, with a high level of support from Smart Phone companies, HMDs manufacturers and the chip makers we just might come up with some extraordinary magic.<br />
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<p><span id="zx-." title="Click to view full content"> The devil of course will be in the details.Â  But a competition like this could not only motivate key players to come together in the spirit of coopetition but also be an opportunity to show the world the power of AR to make visible the invisible ecosystems that are so important to the health of our planet.<br />
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<p>One of the notable presences at ISMAR 2009 was the Qualcomm team.Â Â  Jay Wright&#8217;s presentation (an exclusive for ISMAR) not only outlined AR for 2012, but Jay also talked about some &#8220;close to the metal&#8221; innovation that we will see from Qualcomm very, very soon!Â  I had some time in the press room with Jay and his team prompted by <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/" target="_blank">MoMo&#8217;s </a>Yuri van Geest.Â  When I twittered about Qualcomm&#8217;s presentation at ISMAR, Yuri replied:<strong><br />
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<p><a href="http://twitter.com/vanGeest" target="_blank">vangeest</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/TishShute" target="_blank">&#8220;@tishshute</a>: good stuff, hopefully you will integrate the neat new solutions and ideas in your talk in November ;)&#8221;</p>
<p><strong> </strong>I will be presenting at <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/" target="_blank">MoMo #13</a> on AR, open AR, future of AR and GeoWeb,Â  and hopefully will bring some good news from Qualcomm too.Â  Anyway Jay seemed to like the idea of a Green Tech AR Competition, even though I did stress that I thought it needed some serious sponsorship and BIG prizes.</p>
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<h3>Where&#8217;s the beef? Tracking and Mapping at ISMAR 2009</h3>
<p>On the flight from NYC to Orlando and ISMAR&#8217;o9 I dozed (I had been up late preparing my presentation) and I watched the Dew Tour Pro Skateboard competition and Top Chef on the Food Channel.Â  In this particular episode of Top Chef, the aspiring chefs were all given a brown bag of ingredients by an already famous chef who then judged whether the contenders managed to make a delicious meal with their allotment which was notably lacking in key ingredients of haute cusine.</p>
<p>This metaphor ofÂ  trying to cook up a great meal while perhaps missing the staples is apt for the current early stage of commercial augmented reality.Â  And when I arrived in Orlando, not only were the Dew Tour pro skateboarders staying at the same hotel as ISMAR, but ISMAR itself felt remarkably like an Augmented Reality Top Chef Coopetition.</p>
<p>Much of ISMAR was dedicated to the task ofÂ  providing the meat and potatoes of Augmented Reality, solutions to mobile tracking, mapping and registration, particularly in the Science and Technology track.</p>
<p>Industrial and Military Augmented reality solutions I found out, typically, solve the tracking problems by using fixed mounts which clearly wouldn&#8217;t translate well into the AR everywhere with everything mobile consumer culture expects.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/DanielPustkapost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4679" title="DanielPustkapost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/DanielPustkapost-300x199.jpg" alt="DanielPustkapost" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-2.41.56-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4726" title="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 2.41.56 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-2.41.56-PM-300x208.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 2.41.56 PM" width="300" height="208" /></a></p>
<p><em>In the picture on the left Fabian Doil stands by the VW engine that provided some of the outdoor targets for the ISMAR tracking competition.Â  On the right is a picture from the VW&#8217;s presentation on their research and development of AR.</em></p>
<p>I followed the tracking contest, organized by Daniel Pustka and Fabian Doil of Volkswagen, quite closely. And I learned a lot in the process. WhileÂ  it is clear there has been progress in AR mapping and tracking, we still have a ways to go.</p>
<p>But hanging around the Tracking Competition was a good way to find out the state of play of this crucial part of the AR dream.Â  For example,Â  a little tidbit I learned is that <a href="http://www.gris.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~mgoesele/" target="_blank">Michael Goesele </a>who has been reconstructing &#8220;high-quality geometry models from images collected from the internet (so called community photo collections, CPC)&#8221; is soon to be at the <a href="http://www.ini-graphics.net/ini-graphicsnet/members/fraunhofer-institut-fuer-graphische-datenverarbeitung-igd.html" target="_blank">Institut Graphische Datenverarbeitung</a> where top contenders in the tracking contest &#8211; Harald WuestÂ  and Folker Weintipper (in the foreground of the photo at the left and right respectively) are also to be found. [update Harold and Folker were the winning team <a href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;pid=gmail&amp;attid=0.1&amp;thid=1248dd2927becb21&amp;mt=application%2Fpdf&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3De77cfddae9%26view%3Datt%26th%3D1248dd2927becb21%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zw&amp;sig=AHBy-hbcqUsaRNjbqpHO8vAF_vJqfDrMig" target="_blank">see here for details of scoring and results</a>!] Otto Korkalo and Tuomas Kantonen of VTT, Finland, Augmented Reality team are in the background. They have been working on the joint IBM, Nokia and VTT project that brings, <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/researchers-from-ibm-nokia-and-vtt-bring-avatars-and-people-together-for-virtual-meetings-in-physical-spaces-2009-10-19" target="_blank">Avatars and People Together for Virtual Meetings in Physical Spaces.</a></p>
<p>The picture on the right is another team that were doing very well. If my notes serve me well (and please forgive me if they don&#8217;t. I came back with my card wallet overflowing!) the photo on the right showsChristian Waechter (on the left) and Peter Keitler (on the right) of the <a href="http://portal.mytum.de/welcome" target="_blank">Technische Universitat Munchen</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trackingcompetitionpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4672" title="trackingcompetitionpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trackingcompetitionpost-300x199.jpg" alt="trackingcompetitionpost" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition2post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4681" title="Trackingcompetition2post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition2post-300x199.jpg" alt="Trackingcompetition2post" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>Germany is certainly leading the way in industrial AR. And I learned how small businesses like Metaio get to work with top research institutions and big companies like VW, thanks to very strong German funding program for AR and VR. The current iteration of a series of funding programs isÂ  called<a href="http://www.avilus.de/" target="_blank"> Avilus</a>.Â  AvilusÂ  is putting 42 million Euros into AR and VR this year alone (click on the slide below to see more about Avilus ).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-1.08.48-AM.png"><img title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 1.08.48 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-1.08.48-AM-300x212.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 1.08.48 AM" width="300" height="212" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-2.04.50-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4673" title="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 2.04.50 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-24-at-2.04.50-AM-300x202.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-24 at 2.04.50 AM" width="300" height="202" /></a></p>
<p>I wish we had the equivalent of Avilus here in the US.Â  But there is no equivalent to Arvilus for AR here, andÂ  no AR isÂ  being developed by the US car industry either it seems.Â  But look at the slide above to get a taste of some of the cool stuff Metaio and other small AR and VR businesses do for VW through the Avilus project.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/VWtrackinggudrunpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4682" title="VWtrackinggudrunpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/VWtrackinggudrunpost-300x199.jpg" alt="VWtrackinggudrunpost" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p>I also got to meet many people from one of the world&#8217;s most important AR hubs -Â  The Department of Informatics, <a href="http://portal.mytum.de/welcome" target="_blank">Technische Universitat Munchen</a>, including Prof. Gudren Klinker on the far right in pic above.Â  And from left to right, Fabian Doil (VW, co-organizer of contest), Sebastian Lieberknecht , Selim Ben Himane (Metaio), Tobias Eble (Metaio).Â  Prof. Klinker is the engine behind much of German innovation in AR.</p>
<p>Metaio was one of the few teams to rely mainly on markerless tracking which in this contest was very challenging because of the very different light conditions (see pics below) between the windowless interior and dazzling Florida sunshine outside (pic on the right shows targets under ideal lighting conditions).Â  Many people in the US may beÂ  familiar with Metaio&#8217;s consumer applications, like Junaio,Â  but thanks to Germany&#8217;s efforts to nurture augmented and virtual reality they are also respected software developers in industrial AR.Â  And I suspect that Metaio will spearhead markeless tracking in consumer AR too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition5post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4740" title="Trackingcompetition5post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Trackingcompetition5post-300x199.jpg" alt="Trackingcompetition5post" width="300" height="199" /></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-7.47.44-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4745" title="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 7.47.44 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-25-at-7.47.44-PM-300x229.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-25 at 7.47.44 PM" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>This post as usual has already expanded to something much longer than I originally attended &#8211; pretty typical for me! There is much I have not been able to cover including some of the interesting contributions by augmented reality artists at ISMAR &#8211; again I recommend the upcoming videos.</p>
<p>But I cannot end without a hat tip to, Oriel, Nate et al. who won the best student paper award for AR Sketch &#8211; again please <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/23/ismar-2009-epilogue-a-new-augmented-reality-world-order/" target="_blank">see Games Alfresco for more on this</a> (pic below from Games Alfresco). AR Sketch, Ori notes, is featured &#8220;in our <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/10/16/ismar-2009-sketch-and-shape-recognition-preview-from-ben-gurion-university/" target="_self">top post</a> and popular <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4qZ0GLO5_A" target="_blank">video</a>.&#8221; And</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Their work is revolutionizing the AR world by avoiding the need to print markers â€“ or any images whatsoever.&#8221;</strong></p>
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