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		<description><![CDATA[The Missing Manual for The Future (or The Future: The Missing Manual) Oâ€™Reilly Media, is famous for is producing&#160; â€œmissing manualsâ€ for new technologies, but thinking of Oâ€™Reilly as just a publisher of books would be like saying Facebook is just a website (this came up in the discussion at Media Round Table at Web [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<h3>The Missing Manual for The Future (or The Future: The Missing Manual)</h3>
<p>Oâ€™Reilly Media, is famous for is  producing&nbsp; <a href="http://missingmanuals.com/" mce_href="http://missingmanuals.com/" target="_blank">â€œmissing manualsâ€</a> for new  technologies, but thinking of Oâ€™Reilly as just a publisher of  books would be like saying Facebook is just a website (this came up in  the discussion at Media Round Table at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo, NY, 2010)</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp; In recent weeks, I managed to catch Tim Oâ€™Reilly at several events, <a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" mce_href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank">Maker Faire</a>, <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a>, <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a>, and the free webcast Tim did with John Battelle on <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/the-battle-for-the-internet-ec.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/the-battle-for-the-internet-ec.html" target="_blank">The Battle for the Internet Economy </a> (although Tim spoke several other times during this period!).</p>
<p>It  occurred to me, as I immersed myself in the depth and breadth of  innovation showcased and discussed at these events that Tim Oâ€™Reilly,  and the  Oâ€™Reilly team, are creating, <b>The Missing Manual for the Future.<br />
</b></p>
<p>As Tim  puts it, we are <b>â€œchanging the world by  spreading the knowledge of   innovators.â€</b> Tim uses a quote from William Gibson to illuminate what is at the heart of the Oâ€™Reilly project<b>:</b></p>
<p><b> </b></p>
<p><b>â€œThe Future is here, it is just not evenly distributed yet.â€ (William Gibson). </b></p>
<p>But Tim Oâ€™Reilly makes another point about the future when he  speaks.&nbsp; The future unfolds unexpectedly â€“ so we must invent for an  unknown future not a known future, or as Alex Steffen put it so well in  his post, <a href="http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010959.html" mce_href="http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010959.html" target="_blank"><span>Why Our Bright Green Futures Will Be Weirder Than We Think</span>,</a> â€“ <b>â€œThe world we need is one weâ€™ve never yet seen.â€</b> The magic of  attending an Oâ€Reilly event is that it gives you a chance to work on  this koan in interesting ways, and to take more responsibility for how  things turn out.<b> </b><b><br />
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<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly also urges that we think more deeply about what we are doing.&nbsp; His keynote for <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a> , NYC, billed as, <b>â€œThe Business of Dataâ€ </b>turned towards <b>â€œThe Consequences of Living in a World of Data.â€ </b>The  900 strong crowd at Hadoop World was probably one of the most savvy  crowds in the world about the business of data, so this was a nice turn.<b> </b></p>
<p><b> </b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a> with the theme, <b>Platforms for Growth,</b> was a deep dive into the business of innovation.&nbsp; Tim Oâ€™Reillyâ€™s keynote at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a>,&nbsp; â€œThinking Hard About The Futureâ€ (or rather â€œthinking a little bit creatively or differently about the future)&nbsp; â€“ see<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank"> video here,</a> developed the call he made at Web 2.0 Expo 2008, to <b>â€œwork on stuff that matters,â€</b> into a Four  Cylinder Engine for Innovation. &nbsp; The first of the four  cylinders in the firing order is, <b>â€œHaving Fun!â€</b> But,&nbsp; at Maker Faire, Web 2.0 Expo, and Hadoop World I  got an inside  look at the workings of all four cylinders, and there is more to come, I  am sure, as the other Oâ€™Reilly events unfold over the coming months  including,&nbsp; <a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" mce_href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Summit</a>, <a href="http://strataconf.com/strata2011" mce_href="http://strataconf.com/strata2011" target="_blank">Strata </a>(a new Oâ€™Reilly conference on The Business of Data), and <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/where-20-2011-cfp-is-open.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/where-20-2011-cfp-is-open.html" target="_blank">Where 2.0,  2011</a>.</p>
<p>In a free webcast, last week (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" target="_blank">recording here</a>), previewing <a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" mce_href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Summit</a>, John Battelle and Tim Oâ€™Reilly discussed the <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">Points of Control Map</a> which is developing into a fun and useful tool to examine a very  serious topic, â€œThe Battle for the Internet Economy,â€ and how the  â€œincreasingly direct conflicts between its major playersâ€ could effect  â€œpeople, government and the future of technology innovation.â€ &nbsp; In my  previous post, <a title="Permanent Link to Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality: Talking with Chris Arkenberg" rel="bookmark">Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality</a>, I had a great conversation with <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" mce_href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" target="_blank">Chris Arkenberg</a> using this map as a springboard.&nbsp; More on Points of Control later in this post.</p>
<h3>The Four Cylinders of Innovation</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5814" title="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 7.45.36 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM-300x193.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM-300x193.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 7.45.36 PM" height="193" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
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<h3>From Jet Ponies to Jet Packs: The First Cylinder of Innovation â€“ â€œHave Funâ€</h3>
<p>The â€œmakerâ€ energy and its spirit of play, and the courage to create,  hack, reinvent and re-purpose everything and anything, is a  quintessential example of the first cylinder of innovation firing big.&nbsp;  Many â€œmakerâ€ projects also go on to fire on all four cylinders. &nbsp; But  the Maker forte definitely is in the first cylinder zone (and safety  third as some of the rides, including Jet Ponies, warned).&nbsp; The photo  opening this post by Marc  de Vinck â€“ for more pics <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wurx/sets/72157624914508135/with/5027190140/" mce_href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wurx/sets/72157624914508135/with/5027190140/">see here</a>, is of <a href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/09/tim_oreilly_rides_the_jet_ponies.html" mce_href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/09/tim_oreilly_rides_the_jet_ponies.html" target="_blank">Tim riding The Jet  Ponies</a> at <a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" mce_href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank">Maker Faire </a>which took&nbsp; the New York Hall of Science by storm in late September â€“ see<a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" mce_href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/where-engineering-prowess-meets-burning-man/" mce_href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/where-engineering-prowess-meets-burning-man/" target="_blank">The New York Times coverage here</a>.&nbsp; The ride was <b>â€œbuilt by the  dastardly  danger-hackers at  the <a href="http://madagascarinstitute.com/" mce_href="http://madagascarinstitute.com/" target="_blank">Madagascar  Institute.</a>â€œ</b> See this <a href="http://thefastertimes.com/jetpacks/2009/10/09/this-guy-might-build-a-jetpack-or-at-least-a-hovercraft/" mce_href="http://thefastertimes.com/jetpacks/2009/10/09/this-guy-might-build-a-jetpack-or-at-least-a-hovercraft/" target="_blank">wonderful interview </a>with    Hackett on his work to design <b>â€œour specific jets from a patent that   was  filed in 1960s by a Mr. Lockwood, for Valveless Pulse Jets.â€ </b> Hackett points out:<b> </b></p>
<p><b>â€œLouder than god, glowing white-hot and looking like the  trombone of the Apocalypse, pulse jets are also really shitty,  inefficient engines,â€</b></p>
<p>But, he adds:</p>
<p><b>â€œI have always wanted a jetpack, and one of the reasons I learned to build these things was to further that    goal.â€</b></p>
<p>This grand vision behind the Jet Ponies is a key to firing, <b>The Second Cylinder of Innovation,&nbsp; â€œHey, we can change the world!â€</b></p>
<p>But Jet Ponies, as a stepping stone to jet packs, also really struck a  chord for me as I have been devoting a lot of time lately to the  emerging Augmented Reality industry, a technology which was lumped in  the same category of sci fi  chimera  as jet packs until very recently.</p>
<h3><b> Data is the Gasoline</b></h3>
<p><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5862" title="data" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" alt="data" height="212" width="300"></a><br />
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<p><b> </b></p>
<p><b>â€œThe faces are coming from the sky. &nbsp;The locations are coming   from  the sky.   &nbsp;All these apps depend on something, somewhere up.   &nbsp;And   that,  to me,  was always the heart of Web 2.0. &nbsp;And I am so  delighted   that        people are   finally getting it. &nbsp;Because for a long time,  people   thought, â€˜Oh,  Web 2.0, itâ€™s about    lightweight  advertising   supported   in a web  start up.â€™&nbsp;  So I   went, â€˜No, no, no.    Itâ€™s about  the fact that  weâ€™re  building  these    giant database    subsystems in  the  sky  that are   going to   drive    applications.â€™&nbsp;  And   now, of  course, the  same      application is  on   your PC,  itâ€™s  on  your   phone,  itâ€™s on you    iPad.  &nbsp;And  clearly, the    applications are   just sort of  an  interface   to   something    that   is being  driven  from the    cloud,   and that is     fabulous. &nbsp;Thatâ€™s     the  difference.   &nbsp;People get it    now.â€ </b>(Tim Oâ€™Reilly, said this as part of a response to the first questioner at the Media Round table Web 2.0 Expo)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5802" title="Media Roundtable" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z-300x199.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z-300x199.jpg" alt="Media Roundtable" height="199" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i>Answering questions about the importance of â€œHaving Funâ€ to innovation doesnâ€™t look quite as fun as riding Jet Ponies!</i> <i>Photo above from<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasartoni/5036745797/in/photostream/" mce_href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasartoni/5036745797/in/photostream/" target="_blank"> luca.sartoniâ€™s Flickr stream</a></i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;</i><b> the  data that  is generated by the sensors  and the applications  that  use  that data is  going to be where people  are going to be  innovative.â€ (Tim O&#8217;Reilly)<br />
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<p>During the Media Round Table, I had a chance to ask Tim more about  the role of bottom up innovation in a world where big data is the  gasoline for increasingly sophisticated engines â€“ platforms integrating  machine to machine intelligence and real time analytics.</p>
<p><b>Tish Shute:</b> You brought up Maker Faire in your  keynote, and again now. &nbsp;I was    there, which not many people in the  audience were&nbsp; [not too many hands   went up when Tim asked during his  keynote]. &nbsp;But I think one of  the things that struck me   was the jet  ponies â€“ they were just earthshaking to stand near. &nbsp;They   made the  ground tremble; they made the  world shake.&nbsp; Yet, most of your keynote,  and most of whatâ€™s on our minds here,   at Web 2.0 Expo, is extracting  intelligence from the big data [in the   sky],  and algorithmic  intelligences are the jet engines of the   internet.&nbsp; And of course, not  to be forgotten, as we are here in  New   York City, where the trading  markets are creating the air we breathe&nbsp;   [although we probably don't  realize it until we lose our mortgage or   something] and these  algorithmic economies or â€œrobot casinosâ€ as Kevin Slavin put it, are all  about speed â€“ itâ€™s not just real-time, issues of latency are&nbsp; so  critical that co-location is key to winning the game of the markets.&nbsp;  [Kevin Slavin brilliantly unpacks this in his talk, "Loitering on the  Motherboard."  For more in this see my conversation with Kevin Slavin  below].</p>
<p>So   my question is, whoâ€™s making the jet ponies for the algorithmic    economies in the sky that you just described?&nbsp;&nbsp; How can we make a play    from the bottom up?&nbsp; I always feel <a href="http://www.ushahidi.com/" mce_href="http://www.ushahidi.com/">Ushahidi</a> is one of the jet ponies of   the data  algorithmic space [because of  their great work to bring human   and machine intelligence together to  solve problems in crisis   situations]. &nbsp;But who do you think is doing  exciting work and how can we   ensure that this powerful  world of data  and algorithmic intelligences does not become hidden in a   closed black   box [only really accessible to elite players like the  NYC  trading  markets]?</p>
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<p><b>Tim Oâ€™Reilly: â€œWell, I think thereâ€™s certainly a lot of  interesting things happening    in, say, the financial services that a  lot of, kind of, the Internet    folks are kind of blind to. &nbsp;I think  that there are companies like <a href="http://www.nextjump.com/" mce_href="http://www.nextjump.com/" target="_blank">Next  Jump</a> which are really good with data and good with algorithms. But  kind of  speaking specifically to the maker side of this, that   whole  sensor  enabled world which is going to produce data is in its   infancy.  &nbsp;What  we have that I think is so powerful right now is we have   the first   portable sensor platform. &nbsp;I said in my talk the other day,   you know,   your phone has ears, it has eyes, it has a sense of where  it  is. &nbsp;And   these are all available to application developers. You know, you can  compare, say, Dodgeball to Foursquare, you can see how  differentâ€¦  Dodgeball is Foursquare in the tele-type era.&nbsp; Foursquare is now  possible because there are so many more capabilities  on the phone.</b></p>
<p><b>And  I think that we are going to see a lot of other areas  that are revolutionized by the sensors in the device. &nbsp;It could well be  that some    of them will come explicitly out of the maker kind of  projects, or it could just be that make is sort of a proxy for them.&nbsp; So  yeah, <a href="http://www.arduino.cc/" mce_href="http://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank">Arduino</a> is  this great maker sensor platform, but hey, hereâ€™s a    consumer sensor  platform [holding up phone]. Maybe we vaulted past  the  maker stage  already  and we just didnâ€™t know it.</b></p>
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<p><b>And  thatâ€™s not entirely true, because Arduino is building a  whole economy  of special purpose devices. &nbsp;But it feels a little bit  like the days when people rolling their own PCs coexisted with the rise  of Dell, who was a kid in his college dorm room who made his own PCs and  sold them  on the net, but figured out how to scale it pretty quickly  and get  good  at  it.  But  there were still a lot of garage shops, you  know, â€˜Iâ€™ll make a PC  and sell it to youâ€™ people for probably a decade  before there was   really a  clue that that was a commodity industry.  &nbsp;In fact, I do think   the sensor  platforms are going to become a  commodity industry. &nbsp;And  the  data that  is generated by the sensors  and the applications that  use  that data is  going to be where people  are going to be innovative.â€</b></p>
<h3><b>The internet operating system is a data operating system and it is happening in real time (Tim Oâ€™Reilly)<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5839" title="Hadooppost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost-300x202.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost-300x202.jpg" alt="Hadooppost" height="202" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i>click to enlarge the image above&nbsp; â€“ a slide from Mike Olsenâ€™s&nbsp; (CEO of Cloudera) keynote at <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a></i></p>
<p>Not only  do  we have a portable sensor platform in our pockets&nbsp;    but developers also have  powerful platforms and tools to make sense of  data that fuel  our apps. &nbsp; Opensource <a href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" mce_href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" target="_blank">Hadoop</a> makes  available, to    anyone with   some data  munching chops, the  power to work  with giant  unstructured databases and  do <a target="_blank" mce_href="http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/getting-closer-to-real-time-with-hadoop/" href="http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/getting-closer-to-real-time-with-hadoop/">the kind of  real time  analytics</a>  previously only available to giants  like Google.&nbsp;  Big players  like  Yahoo, Facebook, and Twitter use Hadoop (Jonathon  Gray from Facebook noted they add 10TB <i>a day)</i>. &nbsp; But, as <a href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" mce_href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" target="_blank">this great roundup of Hadoop World </a>points  out, while Hadoop gets  the press for handling petabytes of data , Mike  Olsen (CEO of Cloudera) noted, the fastest growing area of  users are  working with clusters   smaller than 10TB and over half of the Hadoop  clusters were under 10TB in size.</p>
<h3>Four Square: A Platform for Growth with an ecosytem built on top of data that exists in the real world</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5888" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 2.27.19 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM-300x256.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM-300x256.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 2.27.19 AM" height="256" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>As an augmented reality enthusiast it is not hard to guess that one of my favorite platforms for growth is <a href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" mce_href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" target="_blank">Four Square</a>.&nbsp; See <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15652" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15652" target="_blank">Dennis Crowleyâ€™s keynote at Web 2.0 Expo</a> here.&nbsp; The Four Square API has been available to developers since   November 2009,&nbsp; and there are already a number of&nbsp; interesting   applications, and there will be many more to come.&nbsp; The screen shot  above is of <a href="http://geopollster.com/" mce_href="http://geopollster.com/" target="_blank">geopollster</a> â€“ <a href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" mce_href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" target="_blank">see the gallery of Four Square apps here</a>.</p>
<p><i><b><b><b>@dens  tweeted recently&nbsp; â€œPolitics +  @Foursquare = @GeoPollsterâ€   http://geopollster.com &lt;- I love love  love that people are using 4SQ   to think about election tools</b></b></b></i></p>
<p>As Kati London pointed out in her keynote, Four Square is the <b>â€œkind   of augmented reality that is aimed at shifting or  changing a   personâ€™s  social reality, e.g. the mayor badges in Four Square  that   change my  relationship to the people and the place I am in, and   augment   engagement and reputation through socially driven consumer tie   ins.â€ </b> We are already see augmented reality developers beginning to work with the Four Square API â€“ see here, <a href="http://recombu.com/apps/iphone/arstreets-app-review_M12590.html" mce_href="http://recombu.com/apps/iphone/arstreets-app-review_M12590.html" target="_blank">Foursquare + Augmented Reality + Virtual Graffiti = ARstreets</a>.</p>
<p>As augmented reality development tools mature, Four Square will, increasingly, become an important platform<b> </b>for creative AR developers interested in integrating the power of this platform for augmented engagement and reputation with <b>â€œdevice aided augmented  reality that can shift visual experiences of situated geolocal  experiences.â€ </b> With the <a href="http://developer.qualcomm.com/dev/augmented-reality" mce_href="http://developer.qualcomm.com/dev/augmented-reality" target="_blank">Qualcomm vision based augmented reality SDK</a> now available for download, and <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" mce_href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box</a> soon? to be released, and an <a href="http://arwave.org/" mce_href="http://arwave.org/" target="_blank">ARWave</a> client working on Android (almost!), I have been exploring the Four Square API in my non existent spare time!!</p>
<p>The Four Square API also offers some interesting possibilities for  exploring games that take the complex economy of Four Square â€“ not  personal data but aggregates of behavior, as their subject matter (for  more on this see my conversation with Kevin Slavin later in this post  and in an upcoming post).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5886" title="DennisatWhere2009post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post-199x300.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post-199x300.jpg" alt="DennisatWhere2009post" height="300" width="199"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i>I took this picture of Dennis at <a href="http://where2conf.com/where2009/" mce_href="http://where2conf.com/where2009/" target="_blank">Where 2.0, 2009</a> at the beginning of Four Squareâ€™s phenomenal growth (they are at 4 million plus users now).</i></p>
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<h3><b><b><b>Pachube (Patch-Bay): </b></b></b>a web service for storing and sharing sensor, energy and environmental data</h3>
<p><b><b><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5838" title="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 7.58.17 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1-300x198.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1-300x198.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 7.58.17 PM" height="198" width="300"></a><br />
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<p>Eighteen months ago, I interviewed Usman Haque (architect and director, <a id="o.td" title="Haque Design + Research" href="http://www.haque.co.uk/" mce_href="http://www.haque.co.uk/" target="_blank">Haque Design + Research</a>) and founder of <a id="cpbp" title="Pachube" href="http://www.pachube.com/" mce_href="http://www.pachube.com/">Pachube</a> â€“ see <a target="_blank">Pachube, Patching the Planet</a>. &nbsp; Usman pointed me to this wonderful evocative image from <a href="http://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm%20%3Chttp://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm" mce_href="http://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm%20%3Chttp://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm" target="_blank">T.R. Okeâ€™s</a> book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Boundary-Layer-Climates-T-Oke/dp/0415043190" mce_href="http://www.amazon.com/Boundary-Layer-Climates-T-Oke/dp/0415043190" target="_blank">â€œBoundary Layer Climatesâ€</a> (original photo source Prof. L. E. Mountâ€™s <a href="http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=1137594&amp;matches=1&amp;author=Mount%2C+Laurence+Edward&amp;browse=1&amp;cm_sp=works*listing*title" mce_href="http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=1137594&amp;matches=1&amp;author=Mount%2C+Laurence+Edward&amp;browse=1&amp;cm_sp=works*listing*title" target="_blank">The Climatic Physiology of the Pig</a>).&nbsp; â€œ<i>Itâ€™s  the same piglets, in the same box, but on the right hand side  the  temperature has been increased. This small change in how the space  is  â€œprogrammedâ€ has dramatically changed the way the â€˜inhabitantsâ€™  relate  to each other and how they relate to their space.â€</i></p>
<h3><b><b><b><b><b><b>The Challenge of Connecting people and environments.</b></b></b></b></b></b></h3>
<p>At Web 2.0 Expo, I got  the opportunity to talk with Usman Haque again.&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.pachube.com/" mce_href="http://www.pachube.com/" target="_blank">Pachube,</a> is becoming an established platform now, Usman explained.&nbsp; They have a  development team of eleven and robust back end.&nbsp; And, they will now be  spending some more time on the front end, including a redesign of the  website,&nbsp;making <b>â€œit a lot easier to widgetize the entire website  so that you will be  able to take almost any element and embed that  into your own website.â€ </b>And, as <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/43845" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/43845" target="_blank">Usman mentioned in his presentation</a>,  they are working on an augmented reality interface, Porthole, for  facilities management and, â€œas a consumer-oriented application that  extends the universe of Pachube data into the context of AR â€“ a  â€˜portholeâ€™ into Pachubeâ€™s data environments..&nbsp; Usman is also  contributing to the AR standards discussion and on the program committee  now <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-w3car-minutes.html#item02" mce_href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-w3car-minutes.html#item02" target="_blank">for the W3C group on augmented reality</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5912" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 10.22.24 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM-300x134.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM-300x134.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 10.22.24 PM" height="134" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Click to enlarge the image above from Chris Burmanâ€™s paper for the W3C, <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/w3car/portholes_and_plumbing.pdf" mce_href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/w3car/portholes_and_plumbing.pdf" target="_blank">Portholes and Plumbing: how AR erases boundaries between â€œphysicalâ€ and â€œvirtualâ€</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Pachube, is sometimes described as the Facebook    for Data or an  analogy Usman prefers, a Twitter for   Sensors.&nbsp; At Web 2.0 Expo, I had    an amazing opportunity  to   hear from Twitter and Facebook about  their strategies as platforms for growth.&nbsp; This gave me lots of fuel for  questions about Pachubeâ€™s approach to developing their platform.&nbsp;  Simplicity was a theme that Facebook&nbsp; and Twitter both affirmed as a  key.&nbsp; One of Pachubeâ€™s challenges will be to deliver ease of use, and  the equivalent of Facebookâ€™s â€œlikeâ€ and &nbsp;Twitterâ€™s â€œfollowâ€ to gain mass  appeal.</p>
<p>Here is a brief excerpt from my upcoming conversation with Usman:</p>
<p><b>Tish Shute</b>:  So as a platform you see Pachube as having  more in common with Twitter â€“ a Twitter for Sensors. In what ways is  Pachube similar to Twitter?</p>
<p><b>Usman Haque:  Well we are the Twitter of sensors, devices  &amp; machines in the sense that, really, the API that enables all this  communication is important, much more so than the website itself.  It is  where, basically, most of the millions of our hits actually go, is to  the backend.  And weâ€™ve now got dozens of applications built on top of  the system, a little bit like Twitterâ€™s applications; you know, all the  apps are the important part.</b></p>
<p><b>But we are actually going to be doing some quite exciting  things with API keys that we havenâ€™t really spoken that much about in  public.  But we have come up with a pretty innovative solution to make  almost every resource have granular privacy options on it, <a href="http://community.pachube.com/node/526" mce_href="http://community.pachube.com/node/526">now discussed here</a>. </b></p>
<p>At Hadoop World, Tim Oâ€™Reilly also raised some interesting broader  questions that are very relevant to Pachubeâ€™s vision to â€œpatch the  planetâ€, e.g, the problem of digital identity in the  age of sensors?  (Smart phones already know their users by the way they walk!) And, <b>â€œHow should we think about privacy in a world where data can be triangulated?â€</b></p>
<p>Usman talked about  Pachubeâ€™s approach to both the   technical  aspects of  how to build  a   massively scalable system, and the   conceptual aspects of  how people connect to  each other, and what they   might do with  these   new opportunities to  connect environments and     sensor data&nbsp; (see my   earlier talk with Usman, <a target="_blank">Pachube, Patching the Planet</a>, for a detailed    explanation of some of the   concepts behind  Pachube).</p>
<p>I look forward to posting this conversation.  Pachube is growing, and  Usman always goes beyond the familiar tropes of connecting human and  machine intelligence.</p>
<h3><b> 2nd Cylinder of Innovation: â€œHey Can We Change the World!â€</b></h3>
<p><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5826" title="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 5.26.55 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM-300x217.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM-300x217.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 5.26.55 PM" height="217" width="300"></a><br />
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<p>The possibilities for reimagining of the role of data in healthcare  produced some of the most powerful â€œHey Can We Change the Worldâ€ moments  for me at both Web 2.0 Expo and Hadoop World.&nbsp; The slide above is from Esther  Dysonâ€™s brilliant Ignite presentation, <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/ignitenyc/esther-dyson-what-you-can-and-cant-learn-from-your-genes" mce_href="http://www.slideshare.net/ignitenyc/esther-dyson-what-you-can-and-cant-learn-from-your-genes" target="_blank">â€œWhat you can and canâ€™t learn from your genes?â€ are here</a>,  &nbsp; Tim Oâ€™Reilly also brought up the powerful role real time data  analytics can play in improving healthcare in his Hadoop World Keynote.&nbsp;  Also see Alex Howardâ€™s post, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/top-10-lessons-for-gov-20-from.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/top-10-lessons-for-gov-20-from.html" target="_self">10 Lessons for Gov 2.0 from Web 2.0 </a>for some more great, â€œhey we can change the world momentsâ€ at Web 2.0 Expo.&nbsp; The keynote from <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" target="_blank">Lukas Biewald of CrowdFlower and Leila Chirayath Janah of Samasource </a>(screen shot below)<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" target="_blank"> </a>in particular, is a provocative exploration of the future of work in the new ecologies of human and machine intelligence.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5870" title="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 8.21.43 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM-300x184.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM-300x184.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 8.21.43 PM" height="184" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<h3><b>Changing the World When Our Lives Are Increasingly Shaped by Forces Invisible To Us?</b></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5840" title="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 11.49.32 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM-300x152.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM-300x152.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 11.49.32 PM" height="152" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
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<p>Mike Olsen, CEO of Cloudera, noted that <b>â€œthe largest area of  data growth does not come from humans interacting  with machines;  rather, itâ€™s from machines interacting with each otherâ€ </b>(see here in <a href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" mce_href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" target="_blank">Minor Technical Difficulties</a>).&nbsp;&nbsp; One of the most  interesting presentations at Web 2.0 Expo was <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/86516" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/86516" target="_blank">Kevin Slavinâ€™s, â€œLoitering  on the Motherboard,â€ </a>which,  as Tim Oâ€™Reilly pointed out in his keynote at Hadoop World, is a  talk  that raises all  kinds of questions about a system where big  players  are gaming the data  for their own ends.</p>
<p>Kevin Slavin, a founder of <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" mce_href="http://areacodeinc.com/">Area/Code</a>,  notes  the operating system of our mortgage, life insurance, the  operating  system of currencies and gold is now governed by machine to  machine  intelligence and algorithimic economies outside of human  cognitive  processes.&nbsp; The  markets are now legible only to bots  in an  algorithmic  arms race with bots surveilling bots, and throwing off   false  information in a bid for counter-surveillance.&nbsp; He showed some  slides of  the eery but beautiful visualizations of traces of the  trading bots  created from the Nanex API.</p>
<p>The screenshot above is from the <a href="http://www.nanex.net/FlashCrash/CCircleDay.html" mce_href="http://www.nanex.net/FlashCrash/CCircleDay.html" target="_blank">Nanex: Crop Circle of the Day â€“ Quote Stuffing and Strange Sequences</a>.&nbsp; <b>â€œThe   common theme with the charts shown on this page is they are  all   generated in code and are algorithmic. Some demonstrate  bizarre price   or size cycling, some demonstrate large burst of quotes in  extremely   short time frames and some will demonstrate bothâ€¦â€</b> This one is a   zoom of the NSDQ â€œWild Thing.â€&nbsp; Wild  price/size repeater from NSDQ   running at 1,000 quotes per second,  effecting the BBO along the way (I   love the great names Nanex gives the different patterns and traces   produced by the trading bots).</p>
<p>Nanex supplies a <a href="http://www.nanex.net/" mce_href="http://www.nanex.net/">real-time data feed</a> comprising trade and quote data for all US equity, option, and futures exchanges. They have <a href="http://www.nanex.net/historical.html" mce_href="http://www.nanex.net/historical.html">archived this data</a> since 2004 and have created and used numerous tools to â€œsift through   the enormous dataset: approximately 2.5 trillion quotes and trades as of   June 2010.â€ May 6th 2010 (day of the flash crash), had approximately  7.6  billion trade, quote, level 2, and depth records.</p>
<p>Kevin points out that our lives are being shaped by criteria  invisible to  us and the old hackneyed tropes of machine to machine  intelligence such a  robots reading HUDs in English are long worn out.&nbsp;  The latter  point is, perhaps, something for us augmented reality geeks  absorbed in  ideas of â€œmaking the invisible visibleâ€ to chew on.</p>
<p>Changing a world shaped by forces that are, increasingly, invisible to us presents a huge challenge.</p>
<p>But I had the glimmer of a, â€œHey Can We Change the Worldâ€ moment,  when I attended Kevin Slavin founder of Area/Codeâ€™s presentation and had  a conversation with him after his talk.&nbsp; Could games take these complex  economies as their subject matter?&nbsp; The economies of&nbsp; Farmville and  games like WoW are not opaque at all, and these are environments with  complex economic behavior, <b>â€œwhere you can actually have enough data to understand what it isâ€</b> â€“ <b>â€œitâ€™s not so much about personal data. &nbsp;Itâ€™s more about, like, aggregate behaviors.â€ </b> <b>â€œGames   that can really model those, and play with those, and take those as  the  subject the way that Monopoly takes Monopoly as a subject could be   really interesting.â€ </b>Kevin made many fascinating points â€“ more to come on this topic.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5980" title="Kevin Slavin" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin-300x199.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin-300x199.jpg" alt="Kevin Slavin" height="199" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Photo by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://duncandavidson.com/" mce_href="http://duncandavidson.com/">James Duncan Davidson</a>, of Kevin Slavin speaking at Web 2.0 Expo NY, 2010, from the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oreillyconf/5035426532/" mce_href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oreillyconf/5035426532/" target="_blank">Oâ€™Reilly Conferences Flickr stream</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Here is the beginning of our conversation:</p>
<h3>Talking With Kevin Slavin</h3>
<p><b><b>Tish Shute: </b></b>You began your talk  today about visibility and where some of the  algorithmic masters of  disguise went to work, after they had solved the  math behind stealth  bombers. &nbsp;I thought perhaps you were leading into  ideas about a reverse  surveillance society.</p>
<p>But  you surprised me, as I felt you made visibility itself kind of a   non-issue by the end of your presentation and that counter  surveillance  became basically a time and speed issue. &nbsp;Now I am not  sure quite how to  imagine a counter-surveillance society, something I  try to think  aboutâ€¦</p>
<p><b><b>Kevin Slavin: Well, letâ€™s see. &nbsp;Thereâ€™s a couple ways  to think about it. &nbsp;I think  one point is just that when we talk about  counter-surveillance, we  usually locate that as something that comes  from &nbsp;the bottom up,  something that comes from the population. Think  about the way the  plane spotters discovered the CIA black rendition  flights.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>I  think in general, when people talk about counter  surveillance, or  sousveillance, they imagine it as an inversion of the  traditional  relationship between the people and the state.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>But  thatâ€™s whatâ€™s interesting. Whatâ€™s happening now,  is that there are  forms of surveillance and counter-surveillance that  are in play beyond  any human perceptual horizons. These forms are at  their most  sophisticated in financial services, in the markets.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>If  you were a bot, and could read the market legibly  (which humans  cannot), what you would see, effectively, are bots that  are surveilling  bots. Then you have bots that are throwing off false  information in a  bid for counter-surveillance. Many of the bots are,  themselves,  surveilling other bots; each one of them is trying to  figure out what  all the other ones are going to do. In essence, itâ€™s an  algorithmic arms  race, and game theory has become concrete, since the  theories are code,  the code is action, and the action affects, letâ€™s  say: your mortgage.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>And  so, basically what you have is you have this  series of algorithms that  are all looking to discern each other, while  also trying to prevent  themselves from being discerned. I think of the  tunnels under the  trenches in WWI, tunnels to surveil the trenches, and  then, later,  tunnels to surveil the tunnels. Thereâ€™s a few examples of  this kind of  thing. &nbsp;But Itâ€™s especially strange when itâ€™s computer  code, and at the  magnitude weâ€™re seeing today.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>All  of it, as noted in the talk, accounting for 70%  of all the trades in  the market. 70% of the market trades are never  touched by human hands or  even seen by human eyes; they donâ€™t move  through a conventional  cognitive process. &nbsp;And thatâ€™s why you get  things like the Credit Suisse  algorithm, it was buying, selling 200,000  shares of stocks to itself  over and over and over again. It was a bug  and it slowed the market to a  crawl.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Credit  Suisse was fined, in essence, for failing to  control an algorithm.  Maybe thatâ€™s the first time an algorithm was  treated like a human, in a  way. As if the algorithm broke the law, and  Credit Suisse was  responsible for letting it do so. For me, that feels  like a threshold  event.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Itâ€™s not that humans never made mistakes when trading on the market. But when algorithms err, they err with magnitude.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>The  idea that we now have bugs in the United States  market economy is  really worth looking at. &nbsp;If Apple canâ€™t keep code  bugs from the most  simple iPhone apps in a closed and regulated  ecosystem, Iâ€™m pretty  certain weâ€™ll have a lot more Credit Suisse type  bugs in the future.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>And  that will be pretty interesting. There will be  viruses, and the  operating system they will operate on will be the  operating system of  the United States. The operating system of your  pension, your house,  your life insurance. The operating system of  currencies and gold.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Tish Shute:</b></b> I was hard-pressed by  the end of your talk to think of like, â€œWell,  what would be the  equivalent of, sort of a peopleâ€™s uprising to create a  better fairer  society in this kind of world where, really, the things  that affect the  key aspects of lives most are going on beyond human perception at an  algorithmic  level?â€&nbsp; But you made a pretty radical suggestion at the  endâ€¦</p>
<p><b><b>Kevin Slavin: Well  I think increasingly the markets  have become delaminated from anything  meaningful. First from goods,  then from fundamentals, and now finally  from homo sapiens. So thatâ€™s  hard to fight.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Itâ€™s  the race towards abstraction that makes it  impossible to simply  â€œresist.â€ The latest version in the long series of  fiscal catastrophes  was based on Wall Street finding goods that could  be rolled up and sold  with false valuations, but goods that would take a  long time to fail.  Mortgages are handy like that. Itâ€™s the tradition  of extending the  abstraction as long as possible, until finally the  bill arrives and the  banks fail. I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s something to  rise up against or not.  Itâ€™s like a rally against evil.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>But  really, I think the point is that it wonâ€™t be  the people that rise up.  It will be the financial services themselves  that rise up. Theyâ€™ll just  detach completely.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>That  was harder to do with cotton or with wheat,  with simple futures; they  keep financial services tied to the ground.  &nbsp;So what weâ€™re doing is  creating increasingly complex financial  instruments that are further and  further removed from anything you can  touch. &nbsp;Like the way a mortgage  is abstract. But, of course, the bottom  line is that at the end of that  mortgage lies someoneâ€™s home.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Itâ€™s  said that Wall Street is now moving onto life  insurance, because thatâ€™s  going to take even longer to fail. &nbsp;Theyâ€™re  doing the exact same thing.  The word is that they are rolling up CDOs  made out of crap life  insurance policies, same way they rolled them up  with crap mortgages a  few years ago.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>And  those will probably take, I donâ€™t know, 15 or 20  years to unwrap and  unravel. &nbsp;But what you see in the meantime, is  that they are looking for  things that are increasingly abstract,  intangible, removed as far as  possible from the experience of everyday  life.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>So  maybe this is good. Maybe thatâ€™s financial  services rising up. Lifting  off. I think best case scenario now is that  they actually leave humans  alone altogether. &nbsp;That, someday, they are  just trading, effectively,  completely arbitrary goods, the stocks could  be anything at all, maybe  for crops that no longer exist, and Iâ€™m just  saying that then these bots  would no longer affect what we do and what  we are, it would just be a  robot casino, an invisible paradise in the  air.</b></b></p>
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<h3><b><b>People are the platform: How Games Can Be Engines of Innovation in Our Lives</b></b></h3>
<p><b><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5872" title="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 11.34.58 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM-300x204.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM-300x204.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 11.34.58 PM" height="204" width="300"></a><br />
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<p><i><b><b>See the video of <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">Games that Know Where We Live</a> here (screen shot above)<br />
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<p>Kati London, Senior Producer, <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" mce_href="http://areacodeinc.com/">Area/Code</a>, in her keynote showed how <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">games that know where we  live</a> can shift players perspectives â€“ from device aided augmented  reality  that can shift visual experiences of situated geolocal  experiences to a  kind of augmented reality that is aimed at shifting or  changing a  personâ€™s social reality, e.g. the mayor badges in Four Square  that  change my relationship to the people and the place I am in, and  augment  engagement and reputation through socially driven consumer tie  ins.</p>
<p>Area/Code has recently developed<a id="internal-source-marker_0.7281649763651145" href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129" mce_href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129"> two games for the Knight Foundation</a> that take people as the platform.&nbsp; Macon  Money, uses very simple games dynamics (for more <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">see the video</a> of Katiâ€™s keynote) in a game designed to help â€œKnightâ€™s continuing  efforts  to support revitalizing Macon and creating a vibrant college  town.â€</p>
<p>The  other game that Area/Code has designed with the support of the  Knight  Foundation &nbsp;is for the Biloxi and Gulf Coast community, a game  called  Battlestorm.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129" mce_href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129"> â€œThe gameâ€™s purpose is to increase awareness about natural disasters and change the way people prepare for them.â€</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
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<h3><b>3rd Cylinder of Innovation: Build products, business models and entire industries.</b></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5822" title="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.06.57 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM-300x151.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM-300x151.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.06.57 PM" height="151" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><a href="http://www.glympse.com/" mce_href="http://www.glympse.com/" target="_blank">Glympse</a> â€“ real-time, private location tracking</p>
<p>Julianne Pepitone, Yahoo! Finance, nailed the essence of Web 2.0 Expo, NYC, this year in her post, <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Web-20-Expo-startups-are-big-cnnm-2700333063.html?x=0&amp;.v=2" mce_href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Web-20-Expo-startups-are-big-cnnm-2700333063.html?x=0&amp;.v=2" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo startups are big on neighborhoods, storytelling</a>.&nbsp; She writes:</p>
<p><b>â€œAt   the Web 2.0 Expo in New York City this week, executives  from big   sites  like Facebook, Twitter and Pandora all spoke about  industry   trends.  But the showcase of 27 startup tech companies stole  the show.â€</b></p>
<p>Listen  carefully to Tim Oâ€™Reilly and Fred Wilson, Union Square Ventures,  question their picks from the<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15525" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15525" target="_blank"> startup showcase</a> at Web 2.0 Expo.&nbsp; Also see <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbui5_5_NCA&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbui5_5_NCA&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank">this video of Fred and Tim discussing their conversations with all the start ups</a>.&nbsp;  This&nbsp; is one of the clearest public windows onto both how to present  your company to VC, and how to figure out what are the most important   questions for you as an entrepreneur&nbsp; building a  business in a world of  data.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.glympse.com/" mce_href="http://www.glympse.com/">Glympse</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKScQbPvVc&amp;feature=channel" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKScQbPvVc&amp;feature=channel" target="_blank">successfully  pitches </a>their  â€œjet ponyâ€ strategy for a  location based business, and is Fredâ€™s  pick.&nbsp; They hold up well under pressure and  answer Tim and Fredâ€™s hard  questions  about how their start up will not  get overtaken by an  encumbent player with resources  and market share before they can gain   traction.&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.food52.com/" mce_href="http://www.food52.com/">food52</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZZ0apJTUQA&amp;feature=channel" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZZ0apJTUQA&amp;feature=channel" target="_blank">responds to Timâ€™s probing about their  strategy</a> for business data  analytics that he points out are vital if they  want  to survive with the  small margins of ecommerce.&nbsp; There is a list of  all the participants in the start up showcase in Bradyâ€™s <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/the-startups-at-the-expo-showc.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/the-startups-at-the-expo-showc.html" target="_blank">post here.</a> <a href="http://hour.ly/" mce_href="http://hour.ly/" target="_blank">hour.ly</a> was the audience pick.</p>
<h3><a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for Faces!</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5897" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.14.52 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM-300x134.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM-300x134.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.14.52 AM" height="134" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>My favorite start up  was a biometric service doing face, iris, and finger print matching,<a href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/" mce_href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/" target="_blank"> Tactical Information Systems</a>.</p>
<p>Tim and Fred also liked them, and they have an interesting discussion  about the merits or not of approaching your platform through a narrow  first application as Tactical Information Systems are with <a href="http://www.wanderid.org/" mce_href="http://www.wanderid.org/" target="_blank">WanderID</a> -&nbsp; an application to help identifying lost Alzheimer patients.&nbsp; As Fred pointed out, they are potentially the <a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for faces, so why start so small?</p>
<p>I&nbsp; had asked TIS the same question when I met them in the â€œspeed  datingâ€ session.&nbsp; This is just their first toe in the water as they are a  two person company at the moment. Their vision for their platform is  big.&nbsp; Mary Haskett and Dr Alex Kilpatrick, the founders of this  quintessential jet pony for the algorithmic economies in the sky, are  not only a partnership with the credentials to do a&nbsp; <a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for faces â€“ <a href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/about.html" mce_href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/about.html" target="_blank">see their bios here</a>, they are the people I would want to be running a <a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for faces!&nbsp; They really get the consequences of living in a world of  data â€“ check out Dr Kilpatrickâ€™s absolute killer Ignite talk, <a href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" mce_href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" target="_blank">â€œDefeating Big Brother.â€</a> (screenshot below)</p>
<p><i><b><b><b><a href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" mce_href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5819" title="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.03.11 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM-300x229.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM-300x229.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.03.11 PM" height="229" width="300"></a><br />
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<h3>How Can Augmented Reality Add Value to the Real Time Internet/Data Operating System?</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5896" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.12.57 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM-300x199.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM-300x199.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.12.57 AM" height="199" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i> <a href="http://www.planefinder.net/" mce_href="http://www.planefinder.net/" target="_blank">planefinder.net</a> â€“ an augmented reality app that lets you find information about planes  by pointing your phone at the sky, â€œincluding flight  number, aircraft  registration, speed, altitude and how far away  it isâ€ (via <a href="http://www.maclife.com/article/news/do_some_plane_scouting_augmented_reality_plane_finder_app" mce_href="http://www.maclife.com/article/news/do_some_plane_scouting_augmented_reality_plane_finder_app">MacLife</a>).</i></p>
<p>The new opportunities in the algorithmic economies in the sky were    center stage at Web 2.0 Expo and there are some interesting AR apps for  the real time internet/data operating system emerging, like <a href="http://www.planefinder.net/" mce_href="http://www.planefinder.net/" target="_blank">planefinder.net</a>.&nbsp; But Augmented Reality was still pretty   low profile at Web 2.0 Expo (<a target="_blank">except that NVidia augmented reality demo attracted a lot of attention at the sponsors expo</a>).&nbsp;  However, everyone working in the emerging industry of AR should  recognize that   apps big on â€œneighborhoods and story tellingâ€ are  heading right up the   AR street, and that platforms like Four Square  and Pachube present enormous opportunity to explore the possibilities of  AR.&nbsp; And if augmented reality enthusiasts are not already paying    attention to real time data analytics, and <a href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" mce_href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" target="_blank">Hadoop</a>, they should be (see <a href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" mce_href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" target="_blank">this post for an excellent round up</a> on Hadoop World).</p>
<p>At Hadoop World, Tim Oâ€™Reilly referenced the great tagline from the&nbsp; <a href="http://vimeo.com/11742135" mce_href="http://vimeo.com/11742135">IBM commercial</a>:</p>
<p><i><b><b><b><b>â€œ</b></b></b></b></i><b><b><b><b>Would you be willing to cross the street â€” blindfolded â€” on  data that was five minutes old? Five hours? Five days?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p>As I have noted in several earlier posts â€“ <a href="../../2010/09/27/urban-games-storytelling-with-augmented-reality-the-big-arny-and-inside-ar-talking-with-thomas-alt-metaio/" mce_href="../../2010/09/27/urban-games-storytelling-with-augmented-reality-the-big-arny-and-inside-ar-talking-with-thomas-alt-metaio/" target="_blank">see here</a> and <a href="../../2010/08/05/vision-based-augmented-reality-ar-in-smart-phones-qualcomms-ar-sdk-interview-with-jay-wright/" mce_href="../../2010/08/05/vision-based-augmented-reality-ar-in-smart-phones-qualcomms-ar-sdk-interview-with-jay-wright/" target="_blank">here</a> for starters,&nbsp; we are just seeing the tools&nbsp; for developing near field,  vision based, mobile, social AR become widely available to developers,  so there should be a new level of AR apps emerging through 2011.&nbsp; There  is a wonderful discussion in the comments of this post by Mac  Slocum, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/two-ways-augmented-reality-app.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/two-ways-augmented-reality-app.html" target="_blank">â€œHow Augmented Reality Apps Can Catch On,â€ </a> between Mac, Raimo one of     the founders of <a href="http://www.layar.com/" mce_href="http://www.layar.com/" target="_blank">Layar</a>, and <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" mce_href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" target="_blank">Chris Arkenberg</a> on what constitutes a platform for growth for     augmented reality.</p>
<p>Macâ€™s post, the comments and <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/10/13/is-ar-ready-for-the-trough-of-disillusionment/" mce_href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/10/13/is-ar-ready-for-the-trough-of-disillusionment/" target="_blank">Chris Arkenbergâ€™s post</a> on the <a href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613" mce_href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613" target="_blank">latest edition of the Gartner Hype Cycle,</a> that rather curiously placed Augmented reality almost at the peak of  inflated expectations. really got me excited     about exploring an idea  I have been thinking about for a while, which   is   to get the AR  community to discuss the <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/">Points of Control map</a>. &nbsp;&nbsp; See my discussion with Chris Arkenberg here, <a rel="bookmark" href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" target="_blank">Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality</a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" target="_blank">.</a> The recording of&nbsp; John Battelle&#8217;s and Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s webcast on Points of Control <a href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" target="_blank">is posted here.</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5932" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.01.38 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM-300x124.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM-300x124.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.01.38 AM" height="124" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">The interactive Points of Control map</a> is an amazing  tool    to think with! Check it out  in movements, territory and movements, acquisition mode.&nbsp; There is a  competition for the most interesting comment and most interesting  acquisition suggestion.&nbsp; The prize is a ticket to Web 2.0 Summit!</p>
<h3>What is the Future of Social?</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5987" title="ARwave_logo_small" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png" alt="ARwave_logo_small" height="146" width="208"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>The recent â€œdefectionâ€ from Google to Facebook â€“ see <a title="Lars Rasmussen, Father Of Google Maps And Google Wave, Heads To&nbsp;Facebook" rel="bookmark" href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/29/rasmussen-facebook-google/" mce_href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/29/rasmussen-facebook-google/">Lars Rasmussen, Father Of Google Maps And Google Wave, Heads To&nbsp;Facebook</a>,&nbsp; is as MG Siegler of TechCrunch points out, â€œthe biggest one since Chrome OS lead <a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/matthew-papakipos" mce_href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/matthew-papakipos">Matthew Papakipos </a>made <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/closing-in-on-chrome-os-launch-key-architect-matthew-papakipos-jumps-to-facebook/" mce_href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/closing-in-on-chrome-os-launch-key-architect-matthew-papakipos-jumps-to-facebook/">the same jump in June</a>â€ (TechCrunch also notes â€œcurrent Facebook CTO <a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/bret-taylor" mce_href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/bret-taylor">Bret Taylor</a> was heavily involved in the launch of Google Mapsâ€).</p>
<p>These moves have drawn my particular attention as did <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDYjA5RGCU&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDYjA5RGCU&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank">Bret Taylorâ€™s response in his conversation with Brady Forrest at Web 2.0 Expo</a> to Bradyâ€™s question, <b>â€œHow soon until we get the Facebook firehose?â€ </b></p>
<p>If you have been reading Ugotrade you already know<b> </b>how  important I think an open, distributed, standard for  real-time  communications such as the very innovative Wave Federation Protocol  could be for AR development&nbsp; -&nbsp; see <a href="http://www.arwave.org/" mce_href="http://www.arwave.org/" target="_blank">ARWave </a>and <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" mce_href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" target="_blank">my presentation at MoMo13, Amsterdam</a> last year, <a rel="bookmark" href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/11/19/the-next-wave-of-ar-mobile-social-interaction-right-here-right-now/" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/11/19/the-next-wave-of-ar-mobile-social-interaction-right-here-right-now/" target="_blank">The Next Wave of AR: Mobile Social Interaction Right Here, Right Now!</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>The anticipated release of&nbsp; <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" mce_href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box, </a>has  raised hopes in the developer community that&nbsp; WFP will soon become  easier to work with, and hopefully more widely adopted.&nbsp; Like many  others, I wonder what will happen to <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" mce_href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box</a> now?</p>
<p>But the innovation of Wave is deep and broad (and as many have  pointed out hugely ambitious).&nbsp; Perhaps the boldest attempt yet to  innovate both at the low level of architecture (where Google is so  powerful) and at the high level of <b>the Mark Zuckerberg, â€œbig idea,â€ which  as Tim Oâ€™Reilly notes is, â€œWhat is the future of social?â€ </b> MG Siegler  noted <a title="Facebook Groups Is Sort Of Like Google Wave For Human&nbsp;Beings" rel="bookmark" href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/07/facebook-groups-google-wave/" mce_href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/07/facebook-groups-google-wave/">Facebook Groups Is Sort Of Like Google Wave For Human&nbsp;Beings</a>.</p>
<p>But I deeply hope that the open, distributed standard part of the Wave big idea is not lost in the mix here.</p>
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<h3><b>Fourth Cylinder of Innovation: Keep the Ecosystem Going, Create More Value than You Capture<br />
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<p><i><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-21-at-5.58.27-AM.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-21-at-5.58.27-AM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5931" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 1.56.15 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM-300x181.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM-300x181.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 1.56.15 AM" height="181" width="300"></a><br />
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<p><i>The Points of Control map is interactive, so please <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">click here </a>or on the image above for the full experience.</i></p>
<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly points out that there is a worrisome dark side to the Points of Control Map â€“ see <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank">Timâ€™s keynote here</a>.&nbsp; To paraphrase some or his points:</p>
<p>There are companies on the map that are forgetting to think about  creating a sustainable ecosystem.&nbsp; Rather than growing the pie, they are  trying to divide up the pie and that threatens to cause the fourth  cylinder of innovation to misfire.&nbsp; This fourth cylinder is essential to  the ecosystem.</p>
<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly looks back to the lessons of the personal computing  industry which was incredibly vital and creative, and lots of people  made money until a couple of big players <b>â€œsucked all the air out of the ecosystemâ€</b> and innovation had to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>The Power of Platforms is to create value not just for your company  but for other people.&nbsp;&nbsp; Create value for yourself by creating value for  other people.&nbsp; Tim Oâ€™Reilly used the wonderful example of&nbsp; Henry Ford  inventing the weekend so that there would be enough people with time and  money to buy his mass produced cars.&nbsp; Think about building the  ecosystem that will support the future your are going to build.&nbsp; Grow  the pie rather than cut up the pie.&nbsp; This will be the vital fourth  cylinder of innovation in a <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Web Squared</a> world.</p>
<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly has long proposed that&nbsp;<a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/go/web2" mce_href="http://www.oreillynet.com/go/web2">Web 2.0 is all about harnessing collective intelligence</a>,&nbsp; But as Gartner predicts, â€œ<span lang="EN-GB">By  year end 2012, physical sensors will create 20 percent of non-video  internet traffic.â€ </span><span lang="EN-GB"> </span>Yet   another  previously unevenly distributed future is going mainstream,  and if you havenâ€™t read it already, now is the time to read<span lang="EN-GB"> this  paper by Tim Oâ€™Reilly and John Batelle, </span><a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2009/public/schedule/detail/10194" mce_href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2009/public/schedule/detail/10194" target="_blank">Web Squared: Web 2.0 Five Years On</a>.</p>
<h3><b><b><b>The Consequences of Living in a World of Data</b></b></b></h3>
<p><i><b><b><b><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5817" title="Dataarmsrace" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace-300x199.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace-300x199.jpg" alt="Dataarmsrace" height="199" width="300"></a><br />
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<p>To bring this very long post to a close!&nbsp; Here are just a few of the  key questions re The Consequences of Living in a World of Data that Tim  Oâ€™Reilly raised during his keynote for Hadoop World:</p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow would we solve the problem of  digital identity in the age of sensors? (Our smart phones are able to  know their users by the way they walk â€“ their gait!)</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow will we input data when our devices are smart enough to listen on their own?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow should we think about privacy in a world where data can be triangulated?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œWe are moving to a world in which  every device generates useful data, in which every action creates  information shadows on the net.â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œShouldnâ€™t we regulate the misuse of data rather than the possession of it?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow do we avoid a data arms race?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œCreate more value than you capture.â€</b></b></b></b></p>
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		<title>Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality: Talking with Chris Arkenberg</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Points of Control map is interactive, so please click here or on the image above for the full experience. Today at 4pm EST, 1pm PDT John Battelle and Tim O&#8217;Reilly will discuss the Points of Control map and The Battle for the Internet Economy in a Free Webcast: &#8220;More than any time in the [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://map.web2summit.com/"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5931" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 1.56.15 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM-300x181.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 1.56.15 AM" width="300" height="181" /></a></p>
<p><em>The Points of Control map is interactive, so please <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">click here </a>or on the image above for the full experience.</em></p>
<p><em> </em>Today at 4pm EST, 1pm PDT John Battelle and Tim O&#8217;Reilly will discuss the <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">Points of Control</a> map and The Battle for the Internet Economy <a href="http://oreilly.com/emails/poc_web2summit-webcast-prg.html" target="_blank">in a Free Webcast</a>:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;More than any time in the history of the Web, incumbents in the network  economy are consolidating their power and staking new claims to key  points of control. It&#8217;s clear that the internet industry has moved into a  battle to dominate the Internet Economy.</strong></p>
<p><strong>John Battelle and Tim O&#8217;Reilly will debate and discuss these shifting  points of control as the board becomes increasingly crowded. They&#8217;ll map  critical inflection points and identify key players who are clashing to  control services and infrastructure as they attempt to expand their  territories. They&#8217;ll also explore the effect these chokepoints could  have on people, government, and the future of technology innovation.&#8221;</strong></p>
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<p><em> </em>I&#8217;ve been wanting to start a discussion on theÂ  <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/">Points of Control map </a>in the Augmented Reality community for a while now, and Chris&#8217; recent post on <a href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613" target="_blank">the latest edition of the Gartner Hype Cycle</a>, <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/10/13/is-ar-ready-for-the-trough-of-disillusionment/" target="_blank">&#8220;Is AR Ready for the Trough of Disillusionment?&#8221; </a>and this post by Mac  Slocum, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/two-ways-augmented-reality-app.html" target="_blank">â€œHow Augmented Reality Apps Can Catch On,&#8221;</a> and the conversation in the comments between Mac, Raimo (one of the founders of <a href="http://www.layar.com/" target="_blank">Layar)</a>, and Chris, all prompted me to get a conversation started&#8230;(see below for all that followed!).Â  Chris put me on the hot seat back in June when he did <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/17/tish-shute---augment.html" target="_blank">this very generous interview with me on Boing Boing</a>, so it was time to turn the tables.</p>
<p>Tim O&#8217;Reilly, in hisÂ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank"> keynote for Web 2.0 Expo,</a> pointed out there is both a fun and a dark side to the Points of Control map.Â  There are companies on this map, he noted, that rather than &#8220;growing the pie,&#8221; are  trying to divide up the pie, and they are forgetting to think about  creating a sustainable ecosystem. I expect the conversation between Tim O&#8217;Reilly and John Battelle to dig deep into this Battle for the Internet Economy.Â  If, like me, you have another engagement at the time of the webcast, you can register on the site to receive the recording.</p>
<p>AR is still too young to figure in the battles of the giants, but there will be a lot to be learned from this conversation.Â  And, The Points of Control map is good to think with from the POV of AR in many ways.Â  As Chris Arkenberg observed:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;When I look at this map, the points of control map, itâ€™s  really interesting to me, because what it says to me with respect to AR  is each of these little regions that they have drawn out would be a  great research project. So every single one of these should be  instructive to AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In other words, we should be able to look at social networks,  the land of search, or kingdom of ecommerce, and apply some very  rigorous critical thinking to say, â€œHow would AR add to this engagement,  this experience of gaming, or ecommerce, or content?â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>Looking at each of these individually and really meticulously  saying, â€œOK, well yes, it can do this but how is that different from  the current screen media experience, the current web experience that we  have of all these types of things?â€ Â  You know, how can augmented  reality really add a new layer of value and experience to these? And I  think that process would really trim a lot of the fat from the hopes and  dreams of AR and anchor it down into some very pragmatic avenues for  development.Â   And then you could start looking at, â€œWell, OK, what  happens when we start combining these?â€ When we take gaming levels and  plug that into the location basin, as you suggested.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Chris Arkenberg is a technology professional with a focus on product strategy &amp; development, specializing in 3D, augmented reality, ubicomp and the social web. He uses research, scenario planning, and foresight methodologies to help organizations anticipate change and adopt a resilient and forward-looking posture in the face of unprecedented uncertainty. His personal work is collected at <a href="http://urbeingrecorded.com " target="_blank">urbeingrecorded</a>, and his <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisarkenberg" target="_blank">professional profile is here.</a></p>
<p>He is also one of the founder/organizers of <a href="http://ardevcamp.org" target="_blank">AR DevCamp</a> which is currently scheduled for Dec. 4th (somewhere in SF or The Valley!)Â  Chris said, &#8220;No further details atm (still trying to find a venue and get sponsors) but please direct people to http://ardevcamp.org for upcoming information.&#8221;</p>
<h3>Talking with Chris Arkenberg</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ChrisArkenberg.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5929" title="ChrisArkenberg" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ChrisArkenberg-300x199.jpg" alt="ChrisArkenberg" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I know some people thought <a href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613" target="_blank">the positioning of AR by Gartner near the peak of the hype cycle </a>was misguided, and based on a very narrow understanding of AR as used in marketing apps. But reading your post I thought you made a lot of good points.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Itâ€™s tracking hype, right?  Itâ€™s not necessarily tracking the growth of the technologies or their maturation so much as itâ€™s tracking the general attention level.  And whatâ€™s interesting to me is that tends to affect the amount of money that goes into those technologies.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I was particularly interested in your post because I have been writing a post about two recent Oâ€™Reilly events in NYC, <a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank">Maker Faire</a>, <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a>, and then <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a>, where Tim gave a very interesting 45 minute keynote.Â Â  AR was pretty low profile at all three events.Â Â <a href="../../augmented%20reality%20at%20web%202.0%20http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdave2007/5036397168/in/photostream/" target="_blank"> But the NVidia augmented reality demo attracted a lot of attention at the sponsors expo, </a> and Usman Haque, Founder of <a href="http://www.pachube.com/" target="_blank">Pachube</a> announced in<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/43845" target="_blank"> his presentation</a>,  they are working on an augmented reality interface for Pachube called Porthole, its designed for  facilities management and, â€œas a consumer-oriented application that  extends the universe of Pachube data into the context of AR â€“ a  â€˜portholeâ€™ into Pachubeâ€™s data environments.. &#8220;Â  Usman also mentioned, when I talked to him, that he is contributing to the AR standards discussion and on the program committee now <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-w3car-minutes.html#item02" target="_blank">for the W3C group on augmented reality</a>.Â  For more on this standards discussion and the Pachube AR interface, see Chris Burmanâ€™s paper for the W3C, <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/w3car/portholes_and_plumbing.pdf" target="_blank">Portholes and Plumbing: how AR erases boundaries between â€œphysicalâ€ and â€œvirtual.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>I think pioneers in the augmented reality commmunity should pay attention to these wider conversations about the Battle for the Internet Economy, and the exploration of theÂ  â€œPlatforms for Growthâ€ theme at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a> is very important- this is a course also a nudge to read my upcoming post on these O&#8217;Reilly events!</p>
<p>Also I have another project I have been chewing on that I would like to talk to you about. Â   I want to start an AR conversation about the wonderful <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/">Points of Control map</a> produce for Web 2.0 summit by <a href="http://battellemedia.com/" target="_blank">John Battelle</a>. [ Note there will be, "Battle for the Internet Economy" free Web2Summit webcast w/ @johnbattelle &amp; @timoreilly Wed 10/27 at 1pm PT http://bit.ly/b46cmb #w2s]</p>
<p>Up to this point, understandably given the immaturity of the technology, AR has little role in the â€œBattle for the Internet  Economy.â€Â    But this doesnâ€™t mean that the map isnâ€™t good for AR visionaries, enthusiasts, entrepreneurs, and developers to think with. Â   And both you and Tim have pointed out the potential for AR to leverage the giant data subsystems in the sky. Â  I have to say the positioning of Cloud Computing on the brink of heading down into the trough of disillusionment in this recent rendition of the Gartner Hype Cycle seems ridiculous!</p>
<p>Cloud Computing is already ubiquitous hardly seems credible that it is headed for a trough of disillusionment!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.48.30-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5940" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.48.30 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.48.30-AM-300x199.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.48.30 AM" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yeah, itâ€™s ubiquitous so why even talk about it when itâ€™s your fundamental infrastructure?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah and I seriously doubt it is  imminently headed for a  trough of disillusionmentâ€¦.and this brings me back to the Points of Control Map which as John Batelle points out,  â€œaims to  identify key players who are battling to control the services and infrastructure of a websquared worldâ€ in which the â€œWeb and the world intertwine through mobile and sensor platforms.â€Â   This instrumented world, of course, creates a great deal of opportunity for augmented reality.  Have you seen that, that points of control map?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  I think I have, actually.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> There has been much debate about how this intertwining of the web and  the world will play out in augmented reality.Â Â  Chris Burman points out in his position paper for W3C,Â  <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/w3car/portholes_and_plumbing.pdf" target="_blank">Portholes and Plumbing: how AR erases boundaries between â€œphysicalâ€ and â€œvirtualâ€</a>, that &#8220;trying to draw parallels between a browser based web and the possibilities of AR may solve issues of information distribution in the short-term,&#8221;Â  but it must not have a limiting effect in the long-term.Â Â  But now we at least have one <a href="https://research.cc.gatech.edu/polaris/" target="_blank">web standards-based browser for AR</a> thanks to the work of Blair MacIntyre and the Georgia Tech team.Â  But  I think the discussion in the comments of Mac Slocumâ€™s recent post, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/two-ways-augmented-reality-app.html" target="_blank">â€œHow Augmented Reality Apps Can Catch Onâ€</a> is an interesting starting point from which to think about platforms of growth for AR.Â   I am not sure if I am stretching his meaning but I think Raimo, <a href="http://www.layar.com/" target="_blank">Layar</a>, is suggesting that what the Point of Control map call the the Plains of Media content is very important to the growth of the fledgling AR industry right now.   And I would agree with this, and add that the neighboring terrain of gaming levels will be pretty key as one of my other favorite AR start ups <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento</a> hopes to reveal in the near future!  But what do you think was most important in this brief but pithy dialogue between you Raimo and Mac?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.56.02-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5941" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.56.02 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.56.02-AM-300x179.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.56.02 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>[The screenshot above isÂ <a title="MuveDesign" href="http://www.muvedesign.com/"></a>a teaser video the <a title="Gary Hayes" href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/future-of-location-based-augmented-reality-story-games/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+PersonalizeMedia+%28PERSONALIZE+MEDIA%29" target="_blank">Gary Hayes</a> from <a title="MuveDesign" href="http://www.muvedesign.com/">MUVEdesign</a> for his upcoming (2011 release date), game called Time Treasure.Â  See Gary&#8217;s <a title="Gary Hayes" href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/future-of-location-based-augmented-reality-story-games/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+PersonalizeMedia+%28PERSONALIZE+MEDIA%29" target="_blank">blog</a> for more and Gary&#8217;sÂ <a href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmented-reality-business-models/" target="_blank"> post from over a year ago</a> on AR Business models.Â  Thomas K. Carpenter, <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2010/10/25/time-treasure-future-tablet-game/" target="_blank">on Games Alfresco notes</a>, &#8220;I think this is a terrific idea and I find it interesting heâ€™s planning this on a tablet rather than a smartphone.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  The way I took itâ€¦And to give a little bit of context, I came from sort of this apprehension of augmented reality as an expression of the existing Internet.  So as sort of a visualization layer that allows you to kind of draw out data, and then, with all the affordances of being able to anchor it to real world things.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And my own sort of path has led me to want to really try to understand that and refine it, particularly with respect to the sort of Internet of things and the smarter planet idea of just having embedded systems everywhere.  And specifically, what is the value-add  for augmented reality as a visualization layer of an instrumented world?</strong></p>
<p><strong>And so thatâ€™s caused me to be a bit biased towards that side of AR.  And the way I took Raimoâ€™s comment was that he was saying that, â€œYou know, really what weâ€™re interested in is media.â€  That he was effectively saying that AR for them is really just about that space between the screen and the the world, or between your eyes and the world, and what you can do there.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Certainly I had considered it in the past, but I hadnâ€™t really focused on it or assumed that it was a priority as a business model.  And so he kind of reminded me that, actually, thereâ€™s a lot of entertainment applications.  Thereâ€™s a lot of, obviously, advertising and marketing applications.<br />
And so I felt that I was being a little narrow in my focusâ€¦</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Yes this comes to the heart of what I am interested in about the role AR can play in opening up new relationships to the world of data that we live, not just making it more accessible and useful to us when and where we need it, but AR as a road to reimaginingÂ  it..</p>
<p>Have you seen any interesting work yet to explore these great data economies in the cloud through AR.  I mean can you think of any others &#8211; there is <em><em><a href="http://www.planefinder.net/" target="_blank">planefinder.net</a> </em></em> but others?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Iâ€™ve seen a few just sort of skunk works type applications that people have been playing around with, again, to try and reveal things.  One of them was similar to the aircraft, but it was more for military use and being able to identify things of interest in the sky.  Iâ€™ve seen a couple other for navigation, so being able to identify mountain peaks on a visual plane, for example, but this isnâ€™t so much about revealing an instrumented world.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah, I think that was from the Imagination right?  I know thatâ€™s an interesting one. Usman at Web 2.0 Expo, <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/43845" target="_blank">in his presentation,</a> mentioned the work Pachube is doing on an Augmented Reality interface.  I interviewed Usman again as my last long interview with him was nearly 18 months ago now and Pachube is well on the way to becoming the Facebook of Data or the analogy that Usman prefers &#8211; the Twitter of sensors!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Hmm, interesting.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And to go back to your comments on Augmented Reality not getting caught in some of the traps that have made virtual worlds lose relevancy I think that is vital that AR developers understand the strategic possibilities of key points of control in the internet economy because the isolation and Balkanization of virtual worlds were certainly a factor in their rapid slide into the trough of disillusionment &#8211; although many would argue that a fundamental flaw in the kind of virtual experience that Second Life and other virtual worlds constructed was really the fatal flaw (see James Turner&#8217;s interview with Kevin Slavin <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_self">Reality has a gaming layer</a>).</p>
<p>But Second Lifeâ€™s isolation from the other great network economies of the internet was certainly a limiting factor.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And thatâ€™s been exactly my sense, and Iâ€™ve, over the years, tried to encourage development in that direction for virtual worlds.  I did work, through Adobe, to help develop Atmosphere 3D back in the the early 2000â€™s.  And we did a lot of work to try and understand the marketplace and the specific value-add of doing things in 3D over 2D.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And this is kind of why I keep referring back to VR and VWâ€™s with respect to augmented reality, is that with immersive worlds, there was this ideaâ€¦there was this big rush.  Everybody was so excited about it.  It was obviously the next cool thing.  And everybody wanted to try to do everything in it.  You could do your shopping in virtual worlds. You could have meetings in virtual worlds.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> and  shopping, yes ..that didn&#8217;t work out so well!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And everybody was very excited in developing these things.  And what it really came down it is, â€œYeah, you can, but itâ€™s actually a lot better to do those things on a flat plane or in person.â€  Meeting Place, WebEx, TelePresence &#8211; those tools generally do a much better job at facilitating TelePresence meetings than a virtual world does. The same with TelePresent Education. There are only very specific things that both VR and AR are really good at.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And thatâ€™s where I find myself with augmented reality right now, trying to really pick through that and critically look at which uses are really appropriate for an AR overlay. And again, I think thatâ€™s why the hype cycle is important, because it reflects back this desire that AR is going to be the next big thing &#8211; the be-all, end-all of interacting with data in the cloud &#8211; and forces us all to take a critical look at why we should do things in AR instead of on a screen.</strong></p>
<p><strong>AR is not going to work well for most things but itâ€™s going to be very good for certain uses.  Right now Iâ€™m very keen at trying to understand what those things might be.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I had this wonderful conversation (more in an upcoming post) with Kevin Slavin one of the founders of <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" target="_blank">Area/Code</a> at Web 2.0 Expo and I think some of what he describes about the data brokerages of High Frequency trading have some interesting implications for ARâ€™s role, say, in ubiquitous computing.  The trading markets are now pretty much dominated by machine to machine intelligence; machine to machine brokerages.  They are basically game economies on the scale that we can barely wrap our heads around where the speed that bots and algo traders can access the network is the key.  We really have no clue what is going on  until we lose our houseâ€¦</p>
<p>Kevin was also<a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank"> interviewed by James Turner on Oâ€™Reilly Radar.</a> He talked about how much of the interesting work in location based mobile social apps is defined in opposition to the model of Second Life.  He also talked to me about  how we are seeing â€œfirst lifeâ€ take on the qualities of â€œsecond life.â€  What goes on the trading floor is largely a performance secondary to a more important world of machine intelligence with giant co-located servers  and bots fighting for trading advantages measured in fractions of seconds.</p>
<p>He pointed out how we draw on all these tropes from sci-fi movies, these HUDs based on ideas of machine intelligence where the robot talks to the other robot in English through an English HUD!Â  Many of our current visual tropes for AR are perhaps just as inadequate for the kind of data driven world we live in.</p>
<p>Of course, when you are thinking of having fun with  dinosaurs, or illustrated books, or whatever, this is not, perhaps, an issue.Â  But if you are thinking of augmented reality interfaces as being important in a battle for network economy, and platforms for growth,Â  how this new interface helps us live better in a world of data is an important issue.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Now, does that indicate that the UI just needs more overhaul and innovation, or more that the visual interface for those experiences shouldnâ€™t really leave the screen?  It shouldnâ€™t move on to the view plane?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Yes we have a few concept videos that try and explore this ..</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, and I think this will happen at the level of human-computer interface.  I mean thatâ€™s always been its role, in making coherent the sort of machine mind, for lack of a better term, making it coherent to the human mind. So I mean there is a lot of this sort of machine intelligence, the semantic Web 3.0 revolution, where it really is about enabling machines, and agents, and bots to understand the content that weâ€™re feeding them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But at the end of the day, they, for now, need to be providing value to us human operators. So thereâ€™s always going to be a role for  human-computer interface and user experience design to make this stuff meaningful.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I mean, if you look at the revolution in visualization &amp; data viz, this is of incredible value because it takes a tremendous amount of data and collates it into a glanceable graphic that you can look at and immediately comprehend massive amounts of data because itâ€™s delivered in a handy, visual way.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So I see that as a fascinating design challenge, how the user experience of the data world can be translated into meaningful human interaction.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah.  And when we see <a href="http://stamen.com/" target="_blank">Stamen Design</a> pursuing a big idea in AR, thatâ€™s when we might start to rock and roll, right?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yeah. In my article, I sort of jokingly suggested that Apple will create the iShades.  But, theyâ€™ve got the track record of being way ahead of the curve and delivering the future in very bold forms.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> A key part for the battle for the network economy is to bring the complexity of data into the human realm in a way that increases human agency.  Kevin suggests that the giant robot casinos of markets should actually lift off into total abstractions as theses machine-driven trades get back into the human realm in ways that are so damaging to our lives &#8211;  a lost house or job!  The notion of a counterveillence society where people have more agency over the important aspects of their lives, health, housing, job (which I discussed with Kevin &#8211; interview upcoming) has gotten pretty tricky!</p>
<p>But I think we will begin to see AR eyewear for specific applications (gaming and industrial) get more common fairly soon &#8211; possibly as smart phone accessories.</p>
<p>And it is clear that AR is going to be, increasingly,Â  a part of our entertainment smorgesborg in coming months. Itouch has a camera (although lower resolution),  Nintendoâ€™s are AR-ready and many aspects of the AR vision of hands-free spatial interfaces will go mainstream through Natal.</p>
<p>But we are yet to see an app/platform emerge for  mobile. Social AR games that turn every bar and cafe and ultimately the whole city into a gaming venueÂ  -although I think Ogmento and MUVE aim to lead the way here!  Will an AR company achieve Zynga level success by using the Foursquare, for example?</p>
<p>My feeling is that the lesson of Zynga is pretty important for mobile social AR games.  Could Flash social gaming have taken off without Facebook?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And thatâ€™s the real driver.  And again, as you mentioned with Second Life, and this was exactly my own sense, is that they stuck to the closed garden model and didnâ€™t get the power of social and collaboration.  They attempted to add some of those affordances within the world, but, you know, ultimately most people arenâ€™t in virtual worlds, and most people arenâ€™t using augmented reality.  So leveraging the really predominate platforms like Twitter and Facebook and Foursquare, being able to leverage those affordances, that connectivity, into a platform like augmented reality, I think, is really critical. Because again, you get nothing unless you have the masses, unless you have people present.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> In AR research there is a long history of the  notion of powerful AR-dedicated devices, but smart phones and tablets are good enough,Â  and can launch augmented reality into the heart of the internet economy.  I thinkÂ  the elusive AR eyewear will come to us initially as a smart phone accessory for specific apps.Â  But, for the moment, most AR apps make little attempt to play in the wider internet economy.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And I think itâ€™s actually much lower hanging fruit, really, to do gaming, marketing, transmedia.  Because then you donâ€™t really care about the cloud, or maybe you only really care about a little part of it that your gaming property is addressing. Then it becomes much more about entertainment, and much more about persuasion, and sensationalism.  And if youâ€™ve got dancing dinosaurs on your street, great!  Itâ€™s entertaining, itâ€™s cool, itâ€™s new. That stuff is fairly straightforward.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I keep coming back to this idea of, you know, the instrumented city.  What sort of data trails do you get out of a fully instrumented city?  So maybe you get traffic patterns, maybe you get geo-local movements of masses, maybe you get energy usage, that sort of thing, all the, sort of  heat maps you can generate from a city. But then what good does it do to be able to have that on an augmented reality layer versus just looking at it on a mobile device or looking at it on your laptop?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Of course the use cases for â€œmagic lensâ€ AR are different from the kind of hands free, 360 view with tightly registered media, that a full vision of AR has always promised.  The 360 view is  quite a different metaphor from the web and mobile rectangular screens.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yes, yes.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Did you see that <a href="http://laughingsquid.com/tweet-it-ipads-vs-iphones-a-parody-of-michael-jacksons-beat-it/" target="_blank">great parody of Michael Jackson&#8217;s</a> â€œBeat Itâ€ with the iPads versus the iPhones, right?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Oh, really?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I tweeted it cos i thought it was quite funny and a little close to the bone!<br />
[laughter]</p>
<p>&#8220;ur wanna an ipatch 2 b the new fad?&#8221; #AR gets cameo in Twitter, iPads &amp; iPhone&#8217;s Michael Jackson-Inspired Parody via @mashable</p>
<p>It is hard to get away from the importance of eyewear when discussing AR!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg: Yes, so the hardware, to me, is a big stumbling point right now, or itâ€™s a large gating factor, I think, for realizing what an augmented reality vision could really be like.  That it really does need to be heads up.  This holding the phone up in front of you is fun to demonstrate that itâ€™s possible, and itâ€™s valuable in some waysâ€¦</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And itâ€™s particularly nice in some applications like the planes app, the Acrossair subway app where you hold the phone down and get the arrow, right?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yeah, the way-finding stuff I think is really valuable&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Sixth Sense really caught peopleâ€™s imagination because it managed to deliver the gesture interface with cheap hardware, even if projection has limited uses (no brightly lit spaces or privacy for example!).</p>
<p>The other important and as yet unrealized part of the AR dream is  real-time communications.  Many interesting uses cases would require this. As you know that is my chief excitement, along with federation,  in the Google Wave Servers for (which should soon be released at <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box</a>) for <a href="http://www.arwave.org/" target="_blank">ARWave</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well my sense of Wave is that it was a ChromeOS protocol that they instantiated, or that they exhibited in the public deployment of Google Wave.  That that was a proof of their sort of low level architectural solution.  Because, you know, theyâ€™ve been rumored to be working on this cloud OS for some time. And so my sense is that Wave is actually one of their core components of that cloud OS, and that it just happened to incarnate for the public in a test run as Google Wave.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I do hope that Wave  In the Box will lower the barriers to entry to people experimenting with this technology.  The FedOne server was just way too hard for most people to take the time to set up.  Of course, it is the brilliance of the Wave Operational Transform work that also poses problems in terms of ease of use. But Wave Federation Protocol is pretty innovative. And could even play an important role in a real time communications for AR eyewear connected to smartphones. The challenges that Wave takes on re real-time communications, federation, permissions and filters are pretty important ones for ARâ€¦</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Especially when youâ€™re trying to federate a lot of permissions and filter a lot of data, which all of that gets even more important when you have a visual layer between you and the real world.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> You got it.  Yeah!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  I think thatâ€™s really valuable real estate, both for third parties that want to get access to your eyes, as well as for you, as the user, who still needs to navigate through the phenomenal world and not be occluded by massive amounts of overhead data.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes, I am sure Google has big plans for the next level of cloud computing and Wave looks at some key challenges.  I suppose federation poses some key business problems.  I think it was Michael Jones who said to me that it was a bit like socialism in that you have to be willing to give something up for the greater good.</p>
<p>Perhaps federation does not present enough appeal because of its challenges re business models?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, I wonder.  I mean thereâ€™s got to be some value for their ad platform as ads are moving more towards this personalized experience.  Advertising is becoming less of a shotgun blast and more of a very precise, surgical strike. So being able to track user data to such a fine degree to mobilize the appropriate ads around them wherever they are, on any platform, is certainly very valuable to Google and their ad ecology.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Many people have high hopes that HTML 5 by lowering the barrier of entry forÂ  browser style AR could also pave the way for some interesting AR work..</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, as much as I would hope that all the different players are going to come together and establish some shared set of standards, really, whatâ€™s happening is itâ€™s a rush to the finish line to be the firstâ€¦to get the most penetration in the marketplace so that Layar, for example, can say, â€œItâ€™s official.  Weâ€™re the platform.â€  And then the consolidation that will follow, where the Googles and the other big players like Qualcomm say, â€œOK, itâ€™s mature enough.  Weâ€™ll start buying up all the smaller companies.â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>And thatâ€™s where the real challenge is right now is that there are no standards.  Itâ€™s such an immature technology that you have a lot of different players trying to establish the ground rules.  And again, this is one of the challenges that faced public virtual worlds, is that you had a lot of different virtual worlds that werenâ€™t talking to each other in any particular way, and that they each had their own development platform. And so you end up with a very fractured ecosystem or set of competing ecosystems, which is kind of whatâ€™s happening with AR right now, where a developer has to choose between a number of different new platforms or hedge by deploying across multiple platforms. Basically, the web browser wars are set to be recapitulated by the AR browsers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Among them, Layar and Metaio seem to be getting the most traction.  But thereâ€™s still not a really strong case for a unified development ecosystem to emerge.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So a discussion of ecosystem development brings us back to the Points of Control Map I think. So what do you see as key points of interest for AR developers to watch in the  Points of Control Map? And where do you want to sort of put your bets, right?  We are still really waiting for mobile social AR to emerge into the mainstream.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yes.  And thatâ€™s primarily the shortcoming of  the hardware itself, but also of the accuracy of current GPS technology.  Thatâ€™s another kind of gating factor, because again, AR wants to be able to express the data within a distinct place or object.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So in a lot of ways, other than kind of what weâ€™ve allowed for the broader entertainment purposes, for AR to really work, there needs to be more resolution in GPS location.  So for it to be truly locativeâ€¦because itâ€™s OK to tell Foursquare that youâ€™re in Bar X.  But if you want to be able to draw data directly on a wall within that bar, or do advertising over the marquee on the front, you need more factors to accurately register those images on a discreet location. So thatâ€™s another, sort of, aspect of the immaturity of AR, is that itâ€™s still very hard to register things on discreet locations without employing a number of diverse triangulation methods.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right.  The mobile AR games we see at the moment are really just faking a relationship to the physical world unless they rely on markers or some limited form of natural feature recognition which is really just a more sophisticated form of markers.  But the Qualcomm  SDK does offer some opportunities to tie AR media to the world more tightly as does the Metaio SDK. But in terms of a mobile social AR game that could be like the Cape of Zynga to FourSquare in Location Basin [see the <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/">Points of Control map</a>]&#8230; We havenâ€™t seen anything close yet.</p>
<p>AR should be able to bring the check-in mode to any object in our environment.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yes, yes.  And thatâ€™s actually one of the early interests I had in the notion of social augmented reality. I wanted a way to tag my community with invisible annotations that only certain people could read, and found pretty quickly that thatâ€™s very difficult to do.  I mean you can kind of do some regional tagging, like on a  beach, for example, but if you wanted to tag the bench that was on the cliff above the beach, itâ€™s very difficult to do that using strictly locative reckoning.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thereâ€™s all sorts of really cool social engagement that can be revealed when people are allowed to attach things to the world around them, to the streets they normally pass through, or the points of interest that they normally engage in. To be able to author on the fly on the streets and attach it discreetly to an object effectively.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And yes we do have all kinds of markers and QR codes.  But Erick Schonfeld of Tech Crunch<a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/18/likify-qr-code/" target="_blank"> made a good point that QR codes</a>: &#8220;Until QR code scanners become a default feature of most smartphones and  they start to become actually useful enough for people to go through the  trouble to scan them, they will remain a gee-whiz feature nobody uses.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  So again, this gets back to competing standards and who gets access to the phone stack, the bundle. Who gets the OEM dealâ€¦?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes, the battles for the networks on the Handset Plains are pretty important for AR!<br />
[laughter] I think Layar have made some smart moves on The Handset Plains.</p>
<p>And there are a lot of acquisitions of nearfield technology to look at.Â   If I remember rightly Ebay bought the Red Laser tech from Occipital &#8211; now thereâ€™s any interesting company. Their panorama stuff rocks!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Right. Thereâ€™s a lot of nearfield stuff thatâ€™s supposed to hit all of the major mobile platforms in the next year or so.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I mean I think where this is heading, in my mind, is basically smart motes.  You know, little nearfield wide-range RFIDâ€™s that are the size of a small, tiny square that you could attach to just about anything and then program it to be a representative of your establishment or of an object, that then you can start to tag just about anything. I mean you canâ€™t rely on geo to do it, but if you have a Nearfield chip there that costs maybe like two cents to buy in bulk, and you can flash program it, then you can start to attach data to just about anything.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes &#8216;cos some things still remain very difficult for near field image recognition technologies like Google Goggles.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, if your phone can interrogate for Nearfield devices, and it detects a chip in its near field, it can then interrogate that chip.  The chip may contain flash data on itself, or it may contain the local server in the establishment, or it may go to the cloud and get that data back.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes there is moverment from the top and open source hardware like Arduino has created an opportunity for all sorts of creativity with instrumented environments.Â  And the handheld sensors in our pockets &#8211; our smart phones create a lot of opportunity for bottom up innovation too.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  I mean thatâ€™s my guess.  If you look at what IBM is doing with their Smarter Planet initiative, theyâ€™re partnering with a lot of municipalities, and obviously with a lot of businesses and their global supply chains.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But theyâ€™re basically working with municipalities and all these stakeholders to instrument their territory, their business, or their city, as it were. So theyâ€™re working to provide embedded sensors and the software necessary to read them out and run reports &amp; viz.  And presumably that software can extend to include some sort of mobile device to interrogate the sensors and read the data.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thatâ€™s kind of a top-down approach of a very large global company working with top-down governance bodies to do this. Simultaneously you have the maker crowd experimenting with Arduino and such to build from the grassroots, the bottom up approach.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And thatâ€™s primarily gated by the amount of learning it takes to be able to program these devices, to be able to hack them.  Typically, the grassroots creators who make these devices donâ€™t have the luxury of very large budgets to make things highly usable and Wizywig.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So the bottom up community is a sandbox to create tremendous amounts of innovation, because they are unconstrained by the very real financial needs of the top down innovators.  And so you get a lot of fascinating innovation, a very rich ecology from the bottom-up approach, but you donâ€™t get a lot of wide distribution.  But that does filter up to and inform the top down approach that has a lot more money to put into this stuff.  And it ultimately has to respond to the needs of the marketplace.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I mean if thereâ€™s an answer to the question of whether something like AR will succeed through the bottom-up grassroots approach or the top-down industry approach, I would say it would be both.  That handsets will be hacked to read the bottom up innovations of the maker community, and handsets will be preprogrammed to read the top down efforts of the IBMs of the world.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes but i have to say it is very time-consuming hacking phones (I have just seen a few days suck up in this myself so that I could upgrade my G1 to try out the new ARWave client!).  I mean Android has obviously been the platform of choice because of openness but the business model of iPhone and its market share in the US sure make it important for developers.Â   Itâ€™s like you donâ€™t exist if you donâ€™t have an iphone app for what you are doing.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yeah, and thatâ€™s the challenge, because at the end of the day developers prefer not to work for free and a solid, reliable mechanism to monetize their efforts becomes very appealing.</strong></p>
<p><strong>When I look at this map, the points of control map, itâ€™s really interesting to me, because what it says to me with respect to AR is each of these little regions that they have drawn out would be a great research project. So every single one of these should be instructive to AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In other words, we should be able to look at social networks, the land of search, or kingdom of ecommerce, and apply some very rigorous critical thinking to say, â€œHow would AR add to this engagement, this experience of gaming, or ecommerce, or content?â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>Looking at each of these individually and really meticulously saying, â€œOK, well yes, it can do this but how is that different from the current screen media experience, the current web experience that we have of all these types of things?â€  You know, how can augmented reality really add a new layer of value and experience to these? And I think that process would really trim a lot of the fat from the hopes and dreams of AR and anchor it down into some very pragmatic avenues for development.  And then you could start looking at, â€œWell, OK, what happens when we start combining these?â€ When we take gaming levels and plug that into the location basin, as you suggested.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Some of the important platforms for AR donâ€™t appear to have spots on the map like Google Street View and other mapping technologies that hold out so much hope for AR, or am I missing something?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  You mean on the map?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes for the full vision of AR we need sensor integration, computer vision and cool mapping technologies to come together. Do you see where Google Maps and Google Street View&#8230; Where would they be?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yeah, I mean itâ€™s certainly content, itâ€™s locationâ€¦</strong></p>
<p><strong>Are you familiar with Earthmine?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes, yes I am, definitely.<a href="http://www.earthmine.com/index" target="_blank"> Earth Mine</a>, <a href="http://simplegeo.com/" target="_blank">Simple Geo</a>, Google Street View, user generated internet photo sets like  Flickr all of these could be very important to AR, potentially.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, and the interesting thing about Earthmine is that theyâ€™re effectively trying to do an extremely precise pixel to pixel location mapping.  So theyâ€™re taking pictures of cities just like Street View, except theyâ€™re using the Z axis to interrogate depth and then using very precise geolocation to attach a GPS signature to each pixel that theyâ€™re registering in their images. Effectively, you get a one-to-one data set between pixels and locations.  And so you can look at something like Google Street View, and if you point to the side of a building, in theory, it should know exactly where that is.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Theyâ€™re rolling this out with the idea of being able to tag augmented reality objects in layers directly to surfaces in the real world.  So thatâ€™s another approach to trying to get accurate registration and to try and create what are essentially mirror worlds. Then your Google Street View becomes a canvas for authoring the blended world, because if you plop a 3D object into Street View on your desktop, and then you go out to that location with your AR headset, youâ€™ll see that 3D object on the actual street.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> There was some experimental work with Google Earth as a platform for a kind of simulated AR but I suppose Google Earth doesnâ€™t figure in the battle for the network economy as it never got developed as a platform.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  It hasnâ€™t tried to become a platform, to my  knowledge.  I mean I know some people are doing stuff with it, but as far as I know, Google owns it, they did it the best because they have the best maps, and thereâ€™s not a huge ecosystem of development thatâ€™s based around it other than content layers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And my sense of everything else on the Points of Control map is theyâ€™re looking more at these sort of platform technologies thatâ€¦</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes, re platforms for growth for AR. Gaming consoles will probably emerge as a significant platform for AR this year.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  There will be much more of a blended reality experience in the living room for sure, and with interactive billboards. Digital mirrors are another area.  So I mean if we kind of extend AR to include just blended reality in general, you know, this is moving into our culture through a number of different points. As you mentioned, it will be in the living room, it will be in our department stores where you can preview different outfits in their mirror. Weâ€™re already seeing these giant interactive digital billboards in Times Square and other areas.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Itâ€™s funny.  I mean for me, the sort of blended reality aside, the augmented reality, to me, is actually a very simple proposition in some respects.  When I look at this map, augmented reality is just an interface layer to this map in my mind, just as itâ€™s an interface layer to the cloud and itâ€™s an interface layer to the instrumented world. Itâ€™s a way to get information out of our devices and onto the world.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> The importance of leveraging existing platforms has become pretty clear but it is interesting Facebook definitely gave Zynga the opportunity but would Facebook be so big without Zingaâ€™s social gaming boost?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  I feel that Zynga has definitely helped its growthâ€¦But I think Zynga has benefited a lot more from Facebook than Facebook has from Zynga.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Zynga certainly proved you  could build a profitable business on Facebookâ€™s API!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  They did.  And they also really validated the Facebook ecosystem and the platform.  They really extended itâ€¦ Zynga benefited from the massive social affordances that Facebook had already architected and developed. They brought gaming directly into Facebook, and particularly, this emerging brand of lightweight social gaming that when you sit it on top of a massive global social network like Facebook, it suddenly lights up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>AR pioneers should quite carefully go through this map. There is so much to think about here. Iâ€™m a kind of fanatic about  Streams of  Activity in AR.  Real time brokerages and their potential for AR is something I am fascinated by.  That is one reason I love the ARWave project.</p>
<p>Anselm Hook, to me, is one of the great thinkers in this area of real time brokerages &#8211; with his project Angel, and the work of <a href="http://www.ushahidi.com/" target="_blank">Ushahidi,</a> which is now the platform <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/09/17/urban-augmented-realities-and-social-augmentations-that-matter-interview-with-bruce-sterling-part-2/" target="_blank">for augmented foraging (see here)</a>.  Anselm is now working on AR at PARC which is exciting.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, there are some challenges working with data streams. Presentation and filtering I think is a big challenge with any sort of stream.  Because obviously, you have a lot of potential data to manage, to parse, and to make valuable and comprehensible. So I think this is bound very closely to being able to personalize experiences, or having very discreet valuable experiences.  Disaster relief, for example, I think is an interesting idea that ties into the Pachube type of work. Where, if you had the headset and you were a relief worker, and you had immediate lightweight, non-intrusive, heads up alpha channel overlay, waypoint markers showing you all of the disaster locations or points of need, AR becomes extremely valuable, because itâ€™s a primarily hands-free environment.  This is why the military stuff is so interesting.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Ha!  We are running  into the eye patch/shades/goggles/sexy specs thing again.  But filtering and making streams of activity relevant will be very interesting for  AR.Â  Again that it why I love the Wave Federation Protocol work because what they have built into their XMPP extensions.  You can have your real-time personal data streams, or community streams, or broadcast publicly &#8211; the permissions are built.</p>
<p>And Thomas Wrobelâ€™s original vision of these layers and channels is only fully expressed if you have the eyewear.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Well, and it becomes redundant if itâ€™s on a mobile. To use a very basic example, Twitter, obviously thereâ€™s an app you can view those streams of activity on the camera stream. But you can view that real time data on the screen.  Why do you need to see it heads up?</strong></p>
<p><strong>The reason I really pay attention to what the military is investing in, one, because they have a ton of money, but also because they tend to represent the core bio survival needs of the speciesâ€¦So, when I look at computing, I see this very obvious trend of computers getting smaller and smaller and closer and closer to us because theyâ€™re so valuable to our success.  They give us so much valuable information for engaging our world on a moment by moment basis.  So, of course now we have these tiny little handheld devices that give us access to the global knowledge depositories of human history, because itâ€™s so useful to have that stuff right at hand.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The only impediment now is that it takes one of our hands, if not both of them, to access it.  So if you are in the natural world, which we are all always in the natural world, ultimately, you want your hands free in order to engage with the world on a physical level.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I see computation, or rather, our access to computation is just going to get thinner and thinner, and weâ€™ll very soon move into eyewear, and inevitably, weâ€™ll move into brain computer interface in some capacity.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So when youâ€™re the disaster worker, or a deployed soldier, or the extreme mountain biker, or the heli-skier, or just an adventurer, there are a lot of very practical reasons to have access to information on a heads-up plane. I see AR as being so profound and so valuable, but weâ€™re getting a glimpse of it in its infancy, and itâ€™s got a ways to go to be able to really contain what it is weâ€™re reaching for.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I agree.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And thatâ€™s been a big criticism Iâ€™ve had with all the existing AR implementations that Iâ€™ve seen, is that the UI really needs a revolution.  Itâ€™s very heavy handed.  It is not dynamic, even though itâ€™s supposed to be.  It does not take advantage of transparencies.  It treats the screen like a screen.  It doesnâ€™t treat the screen like a window onto the real world. When youâ€™re looking on the real world, you donâ€™t want a lot of occlusion.  You want very soft-touch indicators of a data shadow behind something that you can then address and then have it call out the information thatâ€™s important to you.</strong></p>
<p>Tish Shute:  Now, thatâ€™s a very nice kind of image youâ€™ve conjured for me there.  Do you see that more could be done on the smartphone than is being done within that?  Or are we like waiting for the old ishades?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  I think thereâ€™s definitely a lot of room for improvement on the smartphone UI.  Nobodyâ€™s really played around with it much. And again, I think thatâ€™s in part that there hasnâ€™t been a really established platform with enough money to fund interesting UI work. We see it in some of the concept demos that float around every now and then.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I guess itâ€™s both a blessing and curse that Iâ€™m always five steps ahead of where Iâ€™m trying to get to.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah, I am familiar with that feeling!</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  So Iâ€™m always trying to reach for the vision even though itâ€™s a bit distant. I think thereâ€™s going to be a lot of development on the handsets.  But again, I think we need a lot of refinement.  We need a lot of real critical analysis of why this is a good thing.</strong></p>
<p><strong>To get back to the original point of Raimoâ€™s comment, it struck me.  And I knew it, but I just had set it aside as gimmickry. But heâ€™s right.  Content is a huge driver for this.  Just stuff thatâ€™s engaging, and fun, and cool, and shows off the technology so they can get enough money to make it through whatever Trough of Disappointment may be waiting.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah, donâ€™t underestimate the Planes of Content!Â  They are a great place to get interest and money to keep AR technology  moving on, right?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Yeah, yeah.  Because, you know, thereâ€™s a lot of freedom there.  And you can piggyback on all the rest of the content thatâ€™s out there and jump on memes and marketing objectives, etc&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>And thereâ€™s a lot of stuffâ€¦Iâ€™m blanking on some of the names, but some of these historical recreations of city streets.  Thereâ€™s a street in London where they overlaid historical photos in a really compelling experience. [Museum of London - http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/] Again, Iâ€™m completely forgetting the attributions, but hose are the type of things that can really be pursued on the existing platforms.  There is stuff thatâ€™s really compelling and really cool.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I heard of another interesting use case &#8211; and I should say that I canâ€™t find attributions to this anywhere on the web and I may be paraphrasing or mis-representing the actual work, but I think the concept is worth exploring anyway. But the idea was that you could take the locations of border checkpoints and conflict sites in Palestine and Israel and visually overlay them on an AR layer in San Francisco.  And it would do some sort of transposition where you could virtually view these things in San Francisco with the same locational mapping superimposed. So you could see where the checkpoints where.  You could see where the wall was.  You could see where suicide bombings were and where there had been conflicts.</strong> <strong>[I cannot find any citations for this!]</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> But with an AR view?  But why would you use an AR view if you  are in San Francisco, then?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Because it superimposes two realities, translating the Gaza conflict into San Francisco as you are walking around. You can interrogate the world. Thereâ€™s a discoverability aspect where youâ€™re using the headset to reveal things, or the handset rather, to reveal things that you could not see otherwise in your city. It was done as an art piece, but as a provocative, obviously political art piece.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Very interesting.  Iâ€™d love to see that. Because thatâ€™s interesting to get away from this idea that you actually have to sort of have this one to one relationship between the data and the world is kinda nice, isnâ€™t it?  Well, not one to one, but a very literalâ€¦getting away from that literalness is kind of good.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And thatâ€™s a possibility of virtual reality and augmented reality merging, that maybe virtual reality is actually going to do best by coming out of the box and writing itself over our reality, so that as you are walking around, you are no longer seeing San Francisco, but you are seeing part of Everquest or World of Warcraft.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Well this is where Bruce Sterling gets to that point he made in <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/06/06/are-2010-keynote-by-bruce-sterling-build-a-big-pie/" target="_blank">his keynote for are2010</a>, that if we actually have viable AR eyewear, then you get the gothic stepsister of AR, VR rising from the grave!Â  He asks whether the very charm of augmented reality, is in fact that it adds rather than subtracts from your engagement with the world and that getting get sucked back into the black hole of VR might not be so great.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And then you get all sorts of interesting challenges to social cohesion if you have a lot of different people experiencing very different worlds, effectively.  That if there is no real consensual reality and a majority of your local populous is, in fact, experiencing very different and unique versions of the world, what does that do to social cohesion?  How does that reinforce tribalism, for example, when only you and certain others get to opt in to a particular layer view of the world?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes Jamais Cascio wrote an interesting piece on that issue on AR and social cohesion a while back.</p>
<p>An eye patch is a more logical vision than the goggles in many ways but I suppose the loss is stereo vision?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  And actually, there were developments in military helicopter technology many years ago that used a single pane square of glass over the eye mounted to the helmets of pilots.  And then they drew various bits of heads-up information on it. So that ensures that youâ€™re having a real strong engagement with the real world, which, obviously, when youâ€™re a helicopter pilot is quite important.  But you still have access to the data layer of  the invisible world.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I just went to <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a> and I have to say, I was awestruck about how big thatâ€™s got.  I mean <a href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" target="_blank">Hadoop</a> has gone from like zero to huge in just a few years.  I mean itâ€™s just like now everyone has the power of the Google big table at their fingertips.</p>
<p>Whatâ€™s the play for AR in the land of search?</p>
<p>I could imagine Hadoop being very powerful tool for AR analytics?</p>
<p>Have you got any thoughts on the land of search and AR? Of course visual search is proceeding at a fast pace and there is a lot of promise for integrations with AR in the future but the latency for visual search is still pretty high?</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  In the near term, not a lot.  In the medium term, thereâ€™s a larger trend towards virtual agents that you can program or teach to keep watch over things for you as an effort to scale down the data overload.  So search is something thatâ€™s going to become more personalized and more active.  Thereâ€™s a movement to make it so people can essentially deputize these agents to be always searching for them; to be out there looking for the things that they have told these agents are important to them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So active search for AR I think presents some challenges, obviously because you need to do text input, typically, or voice input.  Voice input, I think, is much more achievable than text input for AR.  But I can certainly imagine an AR layer that is being serviced by these agents that we have roaming around the web for us reconciling their visual view of the world with our personalizations. AR apps are contextually aware so it knows that if youâ€™re downtown, itâ€™s not going to be giving you a ton of information about Software as a Service infrastructure, or what have you.  But that, instead, itâ€™s going to be handing you little tidbits about a particular clothing brand youâ€™ve opted in to follow and information about  music venues &amp; schedules, for example.  Or perhaps youâ€™ll be on the lookout for other users that have opted in to publicly tag themselves as a member of this or that affinity.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I keep coming back to this idea of AR as really just a simple visualization layer that all of these other technologies can potentially feed into.  So in that sense, search becomes a passive thing that AR is just simply presenting to you in a heads-up, hands-free, or potentially hands-free environment.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes, the big challenge is the stepping stones to that point! Small steps that keep interest going into developing the underlying technology (and not just in research labs!) that will bring us that interface.Â  We have seen some movement already with Qualcomm.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:</strong> And there are bandwidth issues as well, as we can see with the Google Goggles, which is a great idea of visual search.  But you have to take a picture and send it to the cloud and wait for your results.  Itâ€™s not a real-time dynamic interrogation of the world.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes we are really only at the very beginning of  AR being ready for prime time.. it would be interesting to ask AR developers how many of them use AR on a daily basis.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  I think a lot of us, weâ€™re just informed by the sci-fi myths and fascinated with the potential now thatâ€™s itâ€™s starting to become real. But I think we all kinda get that itâ€™s still extraordinarily young.  I mean the web is extraordinarily young. And AR is itself far younger in a lot of ways in its implementations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Everybody has a lot of excitement about all of the great potentials that are being unleashed by this great wave of the Internet and the web and ubiquitous mobile computing.  So thatâ€™s why, you know, you look at that map and we talk about AR and you canâ€™t talk about any of the stuff without talking about all of it, in a lot of ways, particularly with something like AR where itâ€™s so ultimately agnostic and could be completely pervasive across all of these layers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So my fascination is with the future, and I measure our progress towards it by the young nascent offerings from the platform players and the developers. And yeah, a lot of it isâ€¦itâ€™s akin to getting that first triangle on the screen in 3D.  You know, when the renderer finally works and you get a triangle on the screen, and you go, â€œOh my God, it renders.â€  And then you can start to really build polygons and build objects, and start doing boolian operations, and get light and rendering in there, and textures, and on, and on, and on.<br />
So Iâ€™m fascinated by the Layars and the Metaioâ€™sâ€¦<br />
[laughter]</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes and hats off to all the players in the emerging industry, Layar, Metaio, Ogmento, Total Immsersion, and all the others who are finding clever ways to bring fun aspects of  AR into the mainstream, and fuel interest to take the technology to the next level.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Arkenberg:  Absolutely.  And the hype cycle is very valuable.  It has really helped launch the AR industry.  Itâ€™s brought a lot of eyes, and itâ€™s brought a lot of money into the industry.  And itâ€™s forcing people like us to have these conversations to understand how to refine its growth and really focus on the potential in all these different venues, whether itâ€™s trying to save lives, or better understand your city, or have really compelling entertainment experiences.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Everybodyâ€™s excited, and everybodyâ€™s sharing, and everybodyâ€™s trying to move it forward in a way thatâ€™s the most productive.</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today Metaio is holding Inside AR in Munich, Germany.Â Â  Metaio (the picture above shows Metaio co-founders Thomas Alt and Peter Meier), is behind some of the best known commercial and industrial AR experiences of recent years.Â  But as important as the many AR projects they have executed are the AR tools that Metaio has made [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Today <a href="http://www.metaio.com/" target="_blank">Metaio</a> is holding <a href="http://www.metaio.com/insidear/" target="_blank">Inside AR</a> in Munich, Germany.Â Â  <span><span><span>Metaio (</span></span></span>the picture above shows Metaio co-founders Thomas Alt and Peter Meier)<span><span><span>,</span></span></span><span><span><span> is behind some of the best known commercial and industrial AR experiences of recent years.Â  But as important as the many AR projects they have executed are the AR tools that Metaio has made available to developers.Â  <a href="http://www.metaio.com/products/" target="_blank">Metaio&#8217;s AR products and tools</a> have played an important role in bringing AR to a wider public, and given many developers the opportunity to explore AR. </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span> </span></span></span><a href="http://www.metaio.com/insidear/" target="_blank">Inside AR</a> is a great opportunity to see what these AR pioneersÂ  will be up to in the coming months.Â Â  I could not make it to Munich this year.Â  But,<span><span><span> fortunately, I had the opportunity to talk with Thomas Alt, recently.Â Â  In this conversation &#8211; see below, I got a chance to discuss what was going on inside AR with Metaio.</span></span></span><span><span><span> </span></span></span></p>
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<p>The Fall season is always jam packed with great events, and I wish I could be in two places at once.Â  But this week, I will be in my home town, NYC, attending<span><span><span> <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo</a> which, reflecting the heat in the NYC tech community, is a sold out event with a very exciting schedule this year (more on some of the presentations that I will be attending later in this post).Â  If you missed out on tickets to Web 2.0 Expo, a</span></span></span><span><span><span>ll Keynotes <a href="http://is.gd/fpnwp" target="_blank">will be Streamed Live: TUES 9/28 to THURS 9/30</a>, and keep your eye on @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/w2e">w2e</a> and #w2e on twitter. </span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span><span><span> </span></span></span>Meanwhile, I am missing<a href="http://www.metaio.com/insidear/" target="_blank"> Inside AR</a>, which had some great speakers lined up, including fellow New Yorker, John Swords, partner and Ringleader at <a href="http://circ.us/">Circ.us</a>.Â  Hopefully, Swords will share his experiences at next month&#8217;s <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">ARNY Meetup</a> which will be <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">&#8220;joining forces with another vibrant community &#8211; NY Gaming &#8211; for an unforgettable night of Augmented Reality Games&#8221;</a> on Tuesday, Oct 19th, 6:30 PM at <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/venue/?eventId=13799452&amp;popup=true&amp;venueId=1382669" target="_blank">AOL Ventures</a> in New York, NY.</p>
<p>At the most recent ARNY @swords gave a brilliant talk on the possibilities for AR Game development on the newly available opensource <a href="http://ardrone.parrot.com/parrot-ar-drone/usa/" target="_blank">Parrot ARDrone platform</a>.Â  It was great to hear from social game guru @swords on his plans for Parrot ARDrone games, and more.Â  The picture below of an <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnswords/4982892669/" target="_blank">ARDrone camera view is from John Swords Flickr set</a>.Â  Swords was flying it inside his garage because the winds outside were too strong.</p>
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<p>Also, I kicked off what will hopefully be an ongoing discussion on, <strong>&#8220;Story Telling with AR and the Big ARNY a collaborative AR Game for NY,&#8221;</strong> with a few slides.Â  I have opened up the presentation document for collaboration, so please ping me if you would like to be added as a contributor/editor, and are interested in getting involved.</p>
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<p><a href="http://ogmento.com/team" target="_blank">Ori Inbar</a>, CEO and co-founder of <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento</a>, <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/" target="_blank">Games Alfresco</a>, <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">ARNY</a> and my co-chair on <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/" target="_blank">Augmented Reality Event 2010</a>, suggested The Big ARNY &#8211; A Collaborative AR  Game Development Project modelled after A Swarm of Angels <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/12/06/augmented-reality-devcamp-nyc-the-big-arny-a-collaborative-ar-game-project-modeled-after-swarm-of-angels/" target="_blank">last year at the First ARNY Meetup</a> &#8211; so let&#8217;s make it happen!Â  I will be catching up with Ori in October about what Ogmento has been up to since they became <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/26/ogmento-first-ar-gaming-startup-to-win-vc-funding/" target="_blank">the first VC backed AR Game company</a>!</p>
<h3>&#8220;Games allow us to  see each other, for a moment, in a way that living in a city prevents&#8221; &#8211; Kevin Slavin</h3>
<p><span><span><span>I believe that, AR, to get beyond the stage of &#8220;interface du jour&#8221; needs to offer us new ways to relate to each other and the world around us so that we can actually improveÂ  and deepen our engagement with reality not just create experiences that are primarily opticalÂ  (see James Turner&#8217;s interview with Kevin Slavin <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank">&#8220;Reality has a gaming layer&#8221;</a> on not letting &#8220;</span></span></span>the pleasure of a game and the meaning of a game and the experience of a game rest primarily in the optics.<span><span><span>&#8220;Â  And see my recent post, </span></span></span><a title="Permanent Link to Urban Augmented Realities and Social Augmentations that Matter: Talking with Bruce Sterling, Part 2" rel="bookmark" href="../../2010/09/17/urban-augmented-realities-and-social-augmentations-that-matter-interview-with-bruce-sterling-part-2/">Urban Augmented Realities and Social Augmentations that Matter: Talking with Bruce Sterling, Part 2</a>).</p>
<p><span><span><span>Two of the most inspired creators of urban games,Â  Kevin Slavin and Kati London of <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" target="_blank">Area/Code </a> will be speaking at <a href="Web 2.0 Expo" target="_blank">Web 2.0. Expo</a> tomorrow. Â  And you can be sure I will be at both these sessions. </span></span></span><a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15258" target="_blank">Loitering on the Motherboard</a>, Kevin Slavin,<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-14:35"> </a>is <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-14:35">2:35pm</a> <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/grid/2010-09-28">Tuesday, 09/28/2010</a>, and <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">Games that Know Where you Live</a>,<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-16:55"> </a>Kati London &#8211; is a keynote that will also be <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/content/livestream">live streamed</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/full#s2010-09-28-16:55">4:55pm</a> <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/grid/2010-09-28">Tuesday, 09/28/2010</a></p>
<p><span><span><span> Recently <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/86516/?cmp=il-radar-conf-web2expony-slavin" target="_blank">Kevin Slavin</a> was interviewed by James Turner, on O&#8217;Reilly Radar.Â Â  This, </span></span></span><span><span><span><a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank">Reality has a gaming layar</a>,</span></span></span><span><span><span> is a must read piece about a &#8220;world where games shape life and life shapes games&#8221;Â  (<a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly/statuses/25413313179" target="_blank">see @timoreilly</a>).Â <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/drawing-the-line-between-games.html" target="_blank"> </a></span></span></span></p>
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<h3>Interview with Thomas Alt</h3>
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<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Perhaps you could just start with your background Thomas because I think thereâ€™s a lot of newcomers to AR but you are really one of the first movers in commercial AR.  How long youâ€™ve been involved in this?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt:  Actually Iâ€™m an ex-researcher in augmented reality.  I started with me actually after getting my masterâ€™s work in engineering from the Technical University of Munich working for a big company called Volkswagen.  And at that time,1999, we got a research grant for researching how augmented reality could change manufacturing processes in the automobile industry.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And from the research work there, I basically went back to school, did my PhD about augmented reality. And while speaking at a conference, I met Peter Meier who is the co-founder of the company who was also a masterâ€™s student writing his thesis about augmented reality.  That was in 2002.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And so it really was in the very early days of augmented reality. And both Peter and myself we got really excited about the technology; we saw endless possibilities.  We said, â€˜OK. Letâ€™s just found a company.  We actually founded the company in early 2003 with virtually no money. As a matter of fact the founding capital of the company was 25,000 Euros and this 25,000 Euros were won in a case competition in Germany &#8211; a business plan competition.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So you won 25,000 Euros on this case competition and thatâ€™s where Metaio started&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Exactly.  And to legally found a company in Germany it takes exactly 25,000 Euros so that was the founding capital.  We started pretty much like good old SAP started.Â  It wasnâ€™t in a garage though it was a very small office and we basically built up the business through work,  so we donâ€™t have any investors or whatever.  Right now we are 66 people located in Munich where our headquarters have been for five years. We have some presence in the US, and we have a venture company in Seoul, South Korea.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Awesome. I just noticed how fast youâ€™ve been growing.  So right now, Iâ€™m going to ask a couple of questions about where you see the technology and the emerging industry going.</p>
<p>First, what are the platform of choice for Mobile Augmented Reality at the moment?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Obviously in the cellphone hardware space there&#8217;s a fierce competition going on. It&#8217;s yet to be defined what will be the prevailing platform right now, obviously it&#8217;s the iPhone is big now, right? But Android is catching on very, very fast.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>You have pioneered bringing a cross platform SDK for vision assisted AR to a wide community of developers with Junaio and with your partnership with<a href="http://www.kooaba.com/" target="_blank"> Kooaba</a> &#8211; a visual search company from Europe.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yes, yes, and this is how we would, also in the future like to position ourselves with Junaio.Â  Junaio will be a platform, a technology platform, which will allow users to do whatever they want to do in augmented reality.  The API of Junaio is huge in the sense you can do anything from outdoor gaming, to visual search, to normal, uh, lay out style, you know, find the next burger king a mile away kind of super impositions.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>The only licensing you pay is for unifeye right? When you want to use your tool kit right?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yes and this is how weâ€™re distinguishing it.  Junaio is our consumer brand targeting newbie AR developers, with limited programming skills,  while the Unifeye platform is really our B to B platform where B to B customers can create their individual AR experiences.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yes which is what my friend Patrick Oâ€™Shaughnessey, <a href="http://patchedreality.com/" target="_blank">Patched Reality</a>, did for the Ben and Jerry&#8217;s app he created using Unifeye.<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: exactly&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> It is a lot of work developing for so different mobile platforms isnâ€™t it.  Junaio is on Android and iphone but you havent moved Junaio to Symbian?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: To be honest with you right now its a matter of priorities we have other things we want to do first.  And from analyzing the user base, iphone was a big step Android was a big step and now we are pretty much seeing what is happening next.  As you know Nokia going into different directions as far as their smart phone operating system goes, and so on and so forth.Â  There are also capacity constraints.  And right now obviously the most &#8211; potentially not the most possible users, but the users most inclined to do AR on a day to day basis are the ones using the iphone and android devices.  But obviously there are a lot bigger cellphone manufacturers out there.Â   But just you know even the mobile web users arenâ€™t as strong as the users on the iphone and android devices?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>So what do you think the  iphone 4 has that brought to the AR picture?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Very fast camera access, very good for marker recognition.  If you go to the Metaio site you&#8217;ll find a movie where we show on the iphone 4 app for a real augmented reality Leggo peice &#8211; this is something which is very nice</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yes I see that, yes that is nice, yes, yes very nice. The Unifeye SDK is really putting markerless AR into the mainstream.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yesterday we launched the first, a err very nice shopping&#8230; shopping solution for , but that&#8217;s completely external.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh yes &#8211; the augmented reality shopping for seventeen.com, i was going to ask you about that, because it is the first augmented reality online shopping using natural feature tracking.</p>
<p>Also I am very excited to see the gestural interface, awesome!</p>
<p>The seventeen augmented reality shopping app is a PC experience but are you working on developing gestural interfaces for mobile AR?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: We are continually pushing the envelope of whatâ€™s possible with AR. Gestural interfaces for mobile AR is certainly the next step in taking what weâ€™ve done on the PC and making it more portable by using the mobile platform. One thing to keep in mind here is the limitations of mobile platforms and size of the screen needs to fit and make sense for the user experience.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I know you started off as an AR researcher (although as you mentioned earlier you have been working in commercial AR and building Metaio for a long while now.</p>
<p>So in addition to how we are progressing towards gestural interfaces for augmented reality, I would like to ask some questions about AR eyewear.  We wonâ€™t really have hands free AR without eyewear.   What is your projection on when we will see consumer AR eyewear? And, Do you have a any comments on those speculating that we will not see AR eyewear go mainstream for 20years?! What is Metaio doing to move eyewear technology along?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Well as you know, it&#8217;s always, you know on the technological roadmap, and we&#8217;re still doing research projects,  in our AR research department.   We have worked on things like calibrating eyewear for augmented reality.   There is some nice development there.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But really, commercially, the whole thing with eyewear has never caught on on a level which would make it a valuable avenue, business avenue, at least for Metaio.   So, I guess as an ex-researcher, it&#8217;s still a very interesting, a very good technology.  And it would definitely change the marketplace radically when available.  But as per right now, there are very few commercial applications.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Are the obstacles to AR eyewear technological obstacles or is it just a question of a a business model.  I mean is it realistic to see eyewear in the next 3 to 5 years at a price point affordable to consumers, where you really, truly can have eye tracking? You know, the whole problem there was with virtual reality and eyewear giving people a headache.   How far have we come in terms of the technology?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Well, it&#8217;s not so much technological factors &#8217;cause all fundamental problems are solved. It&#8217;s more a rather large corporation, I guess, would have to step up to the plate and say okay, do, let&#8217;s get all the state of the art in electronics and develop just a perfect HMD.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Something Yohan Baillotâ€™s company <a href="http://www.simulation3d.biz/" target="_blank">Simulation 3D</a> is doing at is looking at is hooking up eyewear to smart phones.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yes exactly that would be even better. Metaio has done a strategic move into this HMD space for augmented reality about a year ago by acquiring a bankrupt company.  I mean, we had considerable IP around it from our research base but in the long term we still believe in it and we did a move about a year ago in buying what was left over from a bankrupt company including a lot of IP, which basically goes into the direction of mobile augmented reality but also mobile augmented reality in connection with head mounted displays.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thereâ€™s actually a press release about this but that&#8217;s about a year ago&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>I know that the whole HMD thing&#8230; I mean, I&#8217;ve seen companies come and go. Metaio has worked previously, very closely, with Microvision of Seattle.  We have worked with a German company, doing HMDs and we have worked with Vuzix.Â  We are still working with Vuzix, so we&#8217;re still consider it very valuable.Â  But right now, I mean, it&#8217;s just not a big part of our commercial pipeline, to put it that way.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> It was interesting what Bruce Sterling said in <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/06/06/are-2010-keynote-by-bruce-sterling-build-a-big-pie/" target="_blank">his keynote at ARE 2010</a>.Â  He actually made a strong case for why smart phone augmented reality may be more interesting because it&#8217;s less immersive. I mean, he raised the question of the fact that if you really truly had AR eyewear and HMDs you&#8217;d re-enter the world of virtual reality or as he called it ARâ€™s Gothic step sister VR would rise from the grave&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yeah, well, that&#8217;s a cultural or even a philosophical question and we have discussed it a lot, especially in the industrial domain. Also will the deployment of HMDs come about from end consumers using it in their spare time, or from professional users using the idea in their work time?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Do you think it surprised people who have been working in augmented reality research how much people have engaged with the idea of smart phones as the mediating device for AR, and that rather than having the always on experience that eyewear would give us, we use smart phones as a magic lens of a smart phone when we need to or want to.  Some people were skeptical that anyone would want to hold up a little window to look at augmentations of the world &#8211; a magic lens.   I mean, it wasn&#8217;t self-evident that that would be an experience people enjoyed, and it turns out that it was.</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: That&#8217;s actually a very good analogy. And also in my view, I mean, certain behaviors just change also, right? I mean, this is exactly what Apple&#8217;s trying with the iPad, right? You&#8217;re taking the iPad, and all of the sudden you&#8217;re not constrained to a laptop or whatever. And it&#8217;s truly a companion of the couch, in-bed Web, in the kitchen, and so on and so forth. So digital usage with the iPad, which is a different market, and I&#8217;m aware of that but as an example, the iPad has changed our behavior. And obviously, the augmented reality guys are hoping that something similar happens with AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Which of course brings up the question, I&#8217;m assuming that some of the next generation of slates/ipads are going to have front and back cameras, GPS, and compass, right?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Actually we know that.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>You know that, yes. I assume that you know that, because are you working on some prototypes, and have you got some plans?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: You have to understand that I cannot talk as I&#8217;ve talked as a researcher. It&#8217;s the rules, so I have to be a little bit careful about what I say. We very much think that a webpad, or whatever pad, you would want to call it is on some occasions very good device for AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah. But it is an interesting point with holding up a larger device, because you hands aren&#8217;t free,  but the neat thing about the phone for augmented reality is that you really can do a lot with your thumb, as we&#8217;ve found and just the position of the phone.  But, how will this work it with the two hands on the larger device?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Keep in mind, everyone&#8217;s talking about mobile augmented reality, but really where the case for augmented reality, at this point, is the strongest is in the installation business, it&#8217;s in the web business&#8230; Not necessarily only commercially, but also use case-wise. There are tons of museums out there which are using our augmented reality system in an installation fashion, and to communicate products better, and more efficiently, and so on, and so forth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So, I know that the hype is clearly on the mobile augmented reality side, but there are many examples augmented reality experiences where holding up a larger device is not a big obstacl</strong>e.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Well this brings me to some questions about the future of mobile AR.  My interview with Jay Wright focused on how we are now in a new period for AR bringing together computer vision, visual search into a mobile stack that is really optimized for AR.   What do you see emerging in mobile AR as we move beyond compass, GPS, camera, accelerometer based AR into markless image-based AR.   What will the new use cases and where will we see mainstream users getting in AR.   Will AR games be the first mainstream AR experiences?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: My partner is actually, first of all, one of my best friends, second of all, very emotional, third of all, very intelligent, and he said the other day something I think very valuable in this area. He said, basically think about Mobile Augmented Reality, Thomas. There&#8217;s really a very limited number of use cases which you can do if you look at these classical Point and Find applications, ok? But there are almost unlimited number of use cases when Augmented Reality becomes a day to day companion, ok? So what he meant is, ok, I&#8217;m looking at my normal day&#8230; I&#8217;m looking at the city, I&#8217;m walking throughout this, I&#8217;m coming home, I&#8217;m having dinner basically. I can deploy Augmented Reality in a pure POI search fashion perhaps not even once. Ok when I&#8217;m travelling it&#8217;s a different story, but in an ordinary day I might use a POI search not even once.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But where this ultimately leads, you know, is even in the 15 minutes I&#8217;m having breakfast, I&#8217;m using AR &#8211; looking at the cereal box with my cell phone, I&#8217;m taking part in a sweepstakes or whatever. So from that we draw the conclusion that as a general strategy for Junaio, we should basically throw as much technology as possible into Junaio, make it halfway self-explanatory, and just give people the possibility to come up with ideas on how to deploy augmented reality continuously.</strong></p>
<p><strong>We have actually got a creative team from an Art School working on that, and just, you know, with very little programming skills coming up with things you can do with Augmented Reality on a day-to-day level. And it could be a scavenger hunt game, in the city, with monsters flying around, it could be the normal POI routine, it could be marketing purposes, and so on and so forth. And I think that&#8217;s really the roadmap, and this is a little bit similar on a more technical level, to what Qualcomm is doing, &#8217;cause they&#8217;re floating out possibilities or capabilities I want to call them, and Metaio is doing that, but on a higher level [re the tools] meaning on a Junaio level.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Junaio is a capability platform.  It is also a way for Metaio to demonstrate the capabilities of our technology.  We will offer all the  possibilities for AR and more that we have already demonstrated on PC augmented reality.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What is the business model for Junaio?   Are you encouraging developers to develop business on your platform ?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Junaio is our end consumer platform and our business model is similar to the way Google structures its business model. We work with OEMs, content partners, brands, and developers to offer free content to our end users. Where we do charge is on the advertising side, more specifically contextual and location based advertising. At the current stage, we are focused on building the content base, fostering our developer community, but in the near future, we will be introducing advertising channels.</strong></p>
<p><strong>First of all you have to have very good use cases in the platform basically. And then to put a business model on top of that from a technology stand point is not hard &#8211; its a pay channel.  Its all prepared for this.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>You have quite a broad base as a company donâ€™t you &#8211; you do everything from industrial AR, marketing to technology licensing and more?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Basically, thereâ€™s a lot of things people donâ€™t see us.  There is also the Unifeye PC SDK and we have a client base and partners who are sourcing software from us, and we are doing great pieces. I mean the hype of augmented reality is really coming to a peak. There are lots of pieces that are not even talked about any more.  Chinaâ€™s GQ magazine launched with AR from Metaio, the biggest AR campaign anywhere &#8211; there are a lot of potential readers in China.  And um, so thatâ€™s our business model&#8230; we have our IP, our patents and so on. And on this we can move on onto the mobile platform whenever itâ€™s advisable or feasible.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right. Yeah. I mean uh, youâ€™re very fortunate to have this base built on uh, years of developing IP.  What are the most important areas of AR that Metaio holds IP and patents in, in your view?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: thereâ€™s sleepless nights in that too&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>So far we&#8217;re extremely excited about what&#8217;s going on with Junaio, it&#8217;s one of our big, big success stories. But we are sensible and trying to experiment because, you know, analogies from the past won&#8217;t really work in my view for Augmented Reality in a sense, that, you know, you better bring for a new system to fly, for a new technology to fly, you better bring a very concrete use case to the table, ok? And a well-defined use case. And we are, right now, with Junaio, in a state where we are checking out what could be such a very defined use case.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So how many users does Junaio have now?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Let&#8217;s put it that way, we are, especially in the last 2 months, we are very satisfied. But we are not disclosing that, because users, and we&#8217;re seeing that from the competitive landscape, always needs 1 page of description what exactly a user is.</strong></p>
<p><strong>You understand what I&#8217;m saying? So this is why, &#8217;cause we don&#8217;t want to up or downplay things, we are very careful saying, with users. Because I mean we have people who are actually also commercially very interested in Junaio&#8230;Â  We go through with them and discuss what exactly a user is. Cause there&#8217;s more then&#8230;a download is not a user. An app or something on your phone is not a user, basically, in my opinion.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I am still waiting to see someone do something with AR and the Four Square API, or now the Facebook Places API.  Do you see an interesting potential in the marriage of the rapidly emerging location based social networking space and augmented reality?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Definitely. Augmented reality offers a way for users to find information around them easily. Adding in the social networking component such as geo-tagging, rating, commenting can enhance the user experience and create engagement beyond just viewing the information. For example, within junaio, an average user can create their own personal channel and geo-tag photos or leave text messages at different locations. They can create a virtual tour of San Francisco and share it with their friends. By connecting the social side with good content, the augmented reality experience becomes more fun and interactive.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> And, of course, thereâ€™s the Junaio API.  Are you beginning to see developers use that?</p>
<p><strong>Thomas Alt: Yeah exactly, I mean if you go to Junaio.com, you can get a login, you have an API description. And the way it works is, that you bascially set up a call, which contains the information you would like to have in your individual channel. You submit it to us, it will get checked for profanity and other things, basically. And then we admit it to Junaio basically. The API is huge.Â Â  You can also use Junaio indoors.</strong></p>
<p><strong>This is very relevant. And there&#8217;s a tool chain for that, and so on and so forth. You can do mission-based search with Junaio. It&#8217;s in there, it&#8217;s called Junaio Glue. And there will be another very interesting feature coming up in a couple of weeks. And you can just do it, you can do a scavenger hunt, a game, normal POI search, and so on and so forth. And it&#8217;s all active. And that&#8217;s, what&#8217;s sometimes difficult for us to communicate, is it&#8217;s really a capabilities platform, but on the other hand it&#8217;s obviously very good to developers. And I mean on the developers side there&#8217;s huge interest.</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim O&#8217;Reilly, founder of O&#8217;Reilly Media addressed the audience of the Web 2.0 Expo with a series of challenging questions. I felt happy that so many people I know are already answering this call &#8220;to do something worthy&#8221; with Web 2.0 and &#8220;to make technology that matters.&#8221;Â  However, many of these people were not at [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Tim O&#8217;Reilly, founder of O&#8217;Reilly Media addressed the audience of the Web 2.0 Expo with a series of challenging questions. I felt happy that so many people I know are already answering this call &#8220;to do something worthy&#8221; with Web 2.0 and &#8220;to make technology that matters.&#8221;Â  However, many of these people were not at the Web 2.0 Expo.Â  This is, in part, because as O&#8217;Reilly pointed out:</p>
<blockquote><p>if you look at the focus of a lot of what you call &#8216;Web 2.0,&#8217; the relentless focus on advertising-based consumer models, lightweight applications, we may be <a title="The Web 2.0 economy hangs in limbo -- Friday, Apr 25, 2008" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-9928453-36.html">living in somewhat of a bubble</a>, and I&#8217;m not talking about an investment bubble. (It&#8217;s) a reality bubble.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>But as I explored the conference and expo, I did find friends, old and new, dedicated to figuring out how to use Web 2.0 to make a better world.</p>
<p>Caroline McCarthy has an excellent post, on <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10045321-36.html" target="_blank">CNET news</a> on the message of Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s keynote address.</p>
<p>If you have read Ugotrade before you already know the threads I have been following re the potential for virtual worlds for positive global development and to reduce the carbon footprint of business, so some of McCarthy&#8217;s comments caught my attention:</p>
<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s an inherent irony in what O&#8217;Reilly said, given the fact that massive conferences like the Web 2.0 Expo are packed with the trendspeak and hype that birthed SuperPoke-like entertainment, and certainly aren&#8217;t helping the environment by distributing tons of press kits and swag&#8211;not to mention flying in hundreds of attendees in a massive spurt of carbon emissions.</p>
<p>To be fair, O&#8217;Reilly Media has been printing fewer event programs and encouraging conference goers to recycle, and it has used carpeting made of post-consumer material.</p>
<p>There is clearly a lot that needs to change, and perhaps the tech industry trend of large-scale conferences is part of it. We&#8217;ll see whether Silicon Valley&#8217;s leaders and moguls are willing to do what they think is right, rather than what they think is profitable.</p></blockquote>
<p>But, as Tim O&#8217;Reilly pointed out, the huge problems we face today create an enormous amount of opportunity for us to find creative solutions.</p>
<h3>&#8220;We are going to figure out how to make a better world using the power of the web.&#8221; O&#8217;Reilly</h3>
<p>Virtual World technology will soon, play a major role in re-imagining these tech industry large-scale conferences. There is an talented and dedicated community of open source developers working hard to take this nascent area of Web 2.0 technology mainstream through open source, open standards, and open API&#8217;s. I am so proud to be part of this global community!</p>
<p>Virtual Worlds were only a very small part of the Web 2.0 Expo. <a href="http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2006/02/nwn_tips.html" target="_blank">W. James Au&#8217;s</a> <a href="http://webexny2008.crowdvine.com/talks/show/1051">&#8220;The Post-Hype State of Virtual World Marketing: What Works, What Doesn&#8217;t and Why&#8221;</a> was the only panel I noticed focusing on Virtual Worlds in any of the main tracks. This reflects the relative lack of integration of virtual worlds into Web 2.0.</p>
<p>One of my passions is to make this isolation of virtual world technology from Web 2.0 a thing of the past (see my upcoming post on Rob Smart&#8217;s, IBM, integration of JSON support into <a href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">OpenSim</a> &#8211; which is a vital step towards Web 2.0 made easy for <a href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">OpenSim</a>).</p>
<p>But, as W. James Au pointed out very eloquently, this notion of isolation is really not accurate, even now. For example, Second Life communities interact in myriad and powerful ways with other social media communities on the web despite the currentÂ  lack of common protocols that have kept immersive virtual worlds architecturally cut off from some of the networking effects of Web 2.0.</p>
<p>But, for all of us living here in the US, O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s most important message was simple and fundamental. So let&#8217;s reblog, retweet, plurk, friendfeed, facebook, send it out on notecards in SL, make machinima, and spread the word in every way available to us.</p>
<h3>&#8220;Bad politicians are elected by good people who don&#8217;t vote.&#8221;</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/registertovote.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1697" title="registertovote" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/registertovote.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="346" /></a></p>
<h3>&#8220;There is no reason in 2008 to do shit you hate, &#8216;cos you can lose just as much money being happy as hell.&#8221;</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/garypost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1710" title="garypost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/garypost.jpg" alt="" width="332" height="529" /></a></p>
<p>Quote and pic above from <a href="http://garyvaynerchuk.com/">Gary Vaynerchuk&#8217;s</a> keynote, Web 2.0 Expo, 2008 (also see <a href="http://garyvaynerchuk.com/2008/09/11/execute-on-being-you/" target="_blank">Execute on Being you</a>).</p>
<h3>&#8220;Do something you love,&#8221; Vaynerchuk</h3>
<p>I personally can&#8217;t wait until the potent mix of real time interaction in immersive spaces is combined with the networking effects of Web 2.0. Not just because this will unleash an awesome new wave of innovation and creativity but the early adopters I have met in immersive virtual worlds, and the phenom developers in the rapidly growing open source communities of this emerging technology, have passion, do stuff they love, and do stuff that is worthy, w00t!</p>
<h3>And further: &#8220;Do Something Worthy,&#8221; O&#8217;Reilly</h3>
<p>While speakers and exhibitors from virtual worlds were scant in the main hall and panel tracks, Second Life had a strong showing in theÂ  &#8220;Do Something You Love,&#8221; &#8220;Do something that need&#8217;s to be done&#8221; zone of the Not For profit strip. &#8220;Create more value than you capture&#8221; (from O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s keynote) is the natural heart of their mission.</p>
<p>Below is the awesome Evonne Heyning ( InKenzo in Second Life) of <a href="http://amoration.pbwiki.com/">Amoration.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>What is Amoration?<br />
AMO:Â  The root of love<br />
~ation:Â  The state of being, practice and study<br />
Amoration:Â  living in love, a practice of open engagement<br />
Our Mission:Â  To Create a Culture of Conscious Compassion</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/inkenzo7post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1705" title="inkenzo7post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/inkenzo7post.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p>Evonne addressed the problem of the Not For Profit&#8217;s being in an out of the way strip in the Expo hall with some very tasty peanut brittle.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/notforprofitspost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1707" title="notforprofitspost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/notforprofitspost.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p>In Contrast, the MS Surface crew, in a prime location, playing with super shiny things, did not have to do much to keep a crowd at their table!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mssurface2post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1708" title="mssurface2post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mssurface2post.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p>I IMed my friend Kyle Gomboy (G2 Proto in SL) from the <a href="http://www.sldnug.net/" target="_blank">Microsoft Development Community in Second Life</a> and <a href="http://reactiongrid.com/projects.aspx" target="_blank">in OpenSim</a> to ask him if the MicrosoftÂ  .net, technet, and c#Â  developers in OpenSim had any plans to integrate Surface with OpenSim.Â  I saw the Surface/Virtual Earth integrationÂ  and realized Surface with OpenSim would be hotness for a small company looking to develop a vertical for hospitality, medicine, or education. At between 12 to 15K with SDK and two days training, Surface is priced in a range a small company can probably afford.</p>
<p>G2 also came up with a thought that would bring shiny together with worthy when he mentioned to me how great it would be to see Surface in every public school library in the country.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.rikomatic.com/blog/2008/09/sprinting-throu.html" target="_blank">Rik Riel&#8217;s blog</a> for a nice video of the MS Surface demo in the expo hall.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jamesbooksigningpost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1716" title="jamesbooksigningpost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jamesbooksigningpost.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Making-Second-Life-Notes-World/dp/0061353205" target="_blank">The Making of Second Life,</a>&#8221; W. James Au&#8217;s book signing</p>
<p>From left to right, Rik Rik Panganiban from <a href="http://www.globalkids.org/" target="_blank">Global Kids</a> (Rik Riel in SL), Joyce Bettencourt, <a href="http://whymysl.blogspot.com/">Rhiannon Chatnoir</a>, in SL, W. James Au, (Hamlet Au in SL),Â  Evonne Heyning ( InKenzo in Second Life), Jennifer Schlegel (Schlink Lardner in SL).</p>
<h3>And further more: &#8220;Make technologies that matter,&#8221; O&#8217;Reilly</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/interopnocteampost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1726" title="interopnocteampost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/interopnocteampost.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p>One of the highlights for me of w2e was getting an inside look at the Interop NOC and meeting Bill &#8220;WEJ&#8221; Jensen the Troubleshooting Lead of the InteropNETteam (WEJ center sitting at the Mac).</p>
<p>The Interop NOC is a &#8220;real&#8221; world work of artÂ  &#8211; &#8220;the largest temporary network in the world&#8221; where voluteers have come together with industry leaders to take on the ultimate network challenge &#8211; &#8220;creating a completely interoperable network using the industry&#8217;s most cuting edge technology.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/noc1post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1728" title="noc1post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/noc1post.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="299" /></a></p>
<p>If you have been reading Ugotrade you will know I have been following the work of Michael Osias, IBM,Â  (Illuminous Beltran in SL) who has been creating virtual network operation centers (VNOCs) in OpenSim (for more seeÂ  <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/02/21/the-wizard-of-ibms-3d-data-centers/" target="_blank">here</a>).Â  I am looking forward to introducing &#8220;WEJ&#8221; to Michael&#8217;s work which I believe foreshadows a new era for software &#8211; along the lines Gelertner first envisioned in 1992. Michael follows the Gelertner vision pretty closely.</p>
<p>Gelertner talks about software as an embodied information machine. And, as virtual worlds come of age so will this notion of software as 3d info machines that we can walk around, tinker with, and hang out in with other avatars and agents in real time.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mirror Worlds will transform the meaning of â€œcomputer.â€ Our dominant metaphor since 1950 or thereabouts, â€œthe electronic brain,â€ will go by the boards. Instead people will talk about crystal balls, telescopes, stained glass windows, wine, poetry, or whatever &#8211; things that make you see <em>vividly</em>.</p>
<p>Software today offers assistance to the specialist (in everybody) not to the citizen. The mere citizen deals with the increasingly perilous complexity of his government, business, transportation, health, school, university and legal systems unaided. Mirror Worlds represent one attempt to change this state of affairs (Mirror Worlds, David Gelertner 1992).</p></blockquote>
<p>More on VNOCs in an upcoming post.</p>
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