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		<description><![CDATA[The Missing Manual for The Future (or The Future: The Missing Manual) Oâ€™Reilly Media, is famous for is producing&#160; â€œmissing manualsâ€ for new technologies, but thinking of Oâ€™Reilly as just a publisher of books would be like saying Facebook is just a website (this came up in the discussion at Media Round Table at Web [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<h3>The Missing Manual for The Future (or The Future: The Missing Manual)</h3>
<p>Oâ€™Reilly Media, is famous for is  producing&nbsp; <a href="http://missingmanuals.com/" mce_href="http://missingmanuals.com/" target="_blank">â€œmissing manualsâ€</a> for new  technologies, but thinking of Oâ€™Reilly as just a publisher of  books would be like saying Facebook is just a website (this came up in  the discussion at Media Round Table at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo, NY, 2010)</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp; In recent weeks, I managed to catch Tim Oâ€™Reilly at several events, <a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" mce_href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank">Maker Faire</a>, <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a>, <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a>, and the free webcast Tim did with John Battelle on <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/the-battle-for-the-internet-ec.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/the-battle-for-the-internet-ec.html" target="_blank">The Battle for the Internet Economy </a> (although Tim spoke several other times during this period!).</p>
<p>It  occurred to me, as I immersed myself in the depth and breadth of  innovation showcased and discussed at these events that Tim Oâ€™Reilly,  and the  Oâ€™Reilly team, are creating, <b>The Missing Manual for the Future.<br />
</b></p>
<p>As Tim  puts it, we are <b>â€œchanging the world by  spreading the knowledge of   innovators.â€</b> Tim uses a quote from William Gibson to illuminate what is at the heart of the Oâ€™Reilly project<b>:</b></p>
<p><b> </b></p>
<p><b>â€œThe Future is here, it is just not evenly distributed yet.â€ (William Gibson). </b></p>
<p>But Tim Oâ€™Reilly makes another point about the future when he  speaks.&nbsp; The future unfolds unexpectedly â€“ so we must invent for an  unknown future not a known future, or as Alex Steffen put it so well in  his post, <a href="http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010959.html" mce_href="http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010959.html" target="_blank"><span>Why Our Bright Green Futures Will Be Weirder Than We Think</span>,</a> â€“ <b>â€œThe world we need is one weâ€™ve never yet seen.â€</b> The magic of  attending an Oâ€Reilly event is that it gives you a chance to work on  this koan in interesting ways, and to take more responsibility for how  things turn out.<b> </b><b><br />
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<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly also urges that we think more deeply about what we are doing.&nbsp; His keynote for <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a> , NYC, billed as, <b>â€œThe Business of Dataâ€ </b>turned towards <b>â€œThe Consequences of Living in a World of Data.â€ </b>The  900 strong crowd at Hadoop World was probably one of the most savvy  crowds in the world about the business of data, so this was a nice turn.<b> </b></p>
<p><b> </b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a> with the theme, <b>Platforms for Growth,</b> was a deep dive into the business of innovation.&nbsp; Tim Oâ€™Reillyâ€™s keynote at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/">Web 2.0 Expo</a>,&nbsp; â€œThinking Hard About The Futureâ€ (or rather â€œthinking a little bit creatively or differently about the future)&nbsp; â€“ see<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank"> video here,</a> developed the call he made at Web 2.0 Expo 2008, to <b>â€œwork on stuff that matters,â€</b> into a Four  Cylinder Engine for Innovation. &nbsp; The first of the four  cylinders in the firing order is, <b>â€œHaving Fun!â€</b> But,&nbsp; at Maker Faire, Web 2.0 Expo, and Hadoop World I  got an inside  look at the workings of all four cylinders, and there is more to come, I  am sure, as the other Oâ€™Reilly events unfold over the coming months  including,&nbsp; <a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" mce_href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Summit</a>, <a href="http://strataconf.com/strata2011" mce_href="http://strataconf.com/strata2011" target="_blank">Strata </a>(a new Oâ€™Reilly conference on The Business of Data), and <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/where-20-2011-cfp-is-open.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/where-20-2011-cfp-is-open.html" target="_blank">Where 2.0,  2011</a>.</p>
<p>In a free webcast, last week (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" target="_blank">recording here</a>), previewing <a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" mce_href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2010" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Summit</a>, John Battelle and Tim Oâ€™Reilly discussed the <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">Points of Control Map</a> which is developing into a fun and useful tool to examine a very  serious topic, â€œThe Battle for the Internet Economy,â€ and how the  â€œincreasingly direct conflicts between its major playersâ€ could effect  â€œpeople, government and the future of technology innovation.â€ &nbsp; In my  previous post, <a title="Permanent Link to Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality: Talking with Chris Arkenberg" rel="bookmark">Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality</a>, I had a great conversation with <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" mce_href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" target="_blank">Chris Arkenberg</a> using this map as a springboard.&nbsp; More on Points of Control later in this post.</p>
<h3>The Four Cylinders of Innovation</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5814" title="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 7.45.36 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM-300x193.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-7.45.36-PM-300x193.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 7.45.36 PM" height="193" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
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<h3>From Jet Ponies to Jet Packs: The First Cylinder of Innovation â€“ â€œHave Funâ€</h3>
<p>The â€œmakerâ€ energy and its spirit of play, and the courage to create,  hack, reinvent and re-purpose everything and anything, is a  quintessential example of the first cylinder of innovation firing big.&nbsp;  Many â€œmakerâ€ projects also go on to fire on all four cylinders. &nbsp; But  the Maker forte definitely is in the first cylinder zone (and safety  third as some of the rides, including Jet Ponies, warned).&nbsp; The photo  opening this post by Marc  de Vinck â€“ for more pics <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wurx/sets/72157624914508135/with/5027190140/" mce_href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wurx/sets/72157624914508135/with/5027190140/">see here</a>, is of <a href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/09/tim_oreilly_rides_the_jet_ponies.html" mce_href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/09/tim_oreilly_rides_the_jet_ponies.html" target="_blank">Tim riding The Jet  Ponies</a> at <a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" mce_href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank">Maker Faire </a>which took&nbsp; the New York Hall of Science by storm in late September â€“ see<a href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" mce_href="http://makerfaire.com/newyork/2010/" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/where-engineering-prowess-meets-burning-man/" mce_href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/where-engineering-prowess-meets-burning-man/" target="_blank">The New York Times coverage here</a>.&nbsp; The ride was <b>â€œbuilt by the  dastardly  danger-hackers at  the <a href="http://madagascarinstitute.com/" mce_href="http://madagascarinstitute.com/" target="_blank">Madagascar  Institute.</a>â€œ</b> See this <a href="http://thefastertimes.com/jetpacks/2009/10/09/this-guy-might-build-a-jetpack-or-at-least-a-hovercraft/" mce_href="http://thefastertimes.com/jetpacks/2009/10/09/this-guy-might-build-a-jetpack-or-at-least-a-hovercraft/" target="_blank">wonderful interview </a>with    Hackett on his work to design <b>â€œour specific jets from a patent that   was  filed in 1960s by a Mr. Lockwood, for Valveless Pulse Jets.â€ </b> Hackett points out:<b> </b></p>
<p><b>â€œLouder than god, glowing white-hot and looking like the  trombone of the Apocalypse, pulse jets are also really shitty,  inefficient engines,â€</b></p>
<p>But, he adds:</p>
<p><b>â€œI have always wanted a jetpack, and one of the reasons I learned to build these things was to further that    goal.â€</b></p>
<p>This grand vision behind the Jet Ponies is a key to firing, <b>The Second Cylinder of Innovation,&nbsp; â€œHey, we can change the world!â€</b></p>
<p>But Jet Ponies, as a stepping stone to jet packs, also really struck a  chord for me as I have been devoting a lot of time lately to the  emerging Augmented Reality industry, a technology which was lumped in  the same category of sci fi  chimera  as jet packs until very recently.</p>
<h3><b> Data is the Gasoline</b></h3>
<p><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5862" title="data" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/data.jpg" alt="data" height="212" width="300"></a><br />
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<p><b> </b></p>
<p><b>â€œThe faces are coming from the sky. &nbsp;The locations are coming   from  the sky.   &nbsp;All these apps depend on something, somewhere up.   &nbsp;And   that,  to me,  was always the heart of Web 2.0. &nbsp;And I am so  delighted   that        people are   finally getting it. &nbsp;Because for a long time,  people   thought, â€˜Oh,  Web 2.0, itâ€™s about    lightweight  advertising   supported   in a web  start up.â€™&nbsp;  So I   went, â€˜No, no, no.    Itâ€™s about  the fact that  weâ€™re  building  these    giant database    subsystems in  the  sky  that are   going to   drive    applications.â€™&nbsp;  And   now, of  course, the  same      application is  on   your PC,  itâ€™s  on  your   phone,  itâ€™s on you    iPad.  &nbsp;And  clearly, the    applications are   just sort of  an  interface   to   something    that   is being  driven  from the    cloud,   and that is     fabulous. &nbsp;Thatâ€™s     the  difference.   &nbsp;People get it    now.â€ </b>(Tim Oâ€™Reilly, said this as part of a response to the first questioner at the Media Round table Web 2.0 Expo)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5802" title="Media Roundtable" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z-300x199.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/5036745797_cf544d22cd_z-300x199.jpg" alt="Media Roundtable" height="199" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i>Answering questions about the importance of â€œHaving Funâ€ to innovation doesnâ€™t look quite as fun as riding Jet Ponies!</i> <i>Photo above from<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasartoni/5036745797/in/photostream/" mce_href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasartoni/5036745797/in/photostream/" target="_blank"> luca.sartoniâ€™s Flickr stream</a></i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;</i><b> the  data that  is generated by the sensors  and the applications  that  use  that data is  going to be where people  are going to be  innovative.â€ (Tim O&#8217;Reilly)<br />
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<p>During the Media Round Table, I had a chance to ask Tim more about  the role of bottom up innovation in a world where big data is the  gasoline for increasingly sophisticated engines â€“ platforms integrating  machine to machine intelligence and real time analytics.</p>
<p><b>Tish Shute:</b> You brought up Maker Faire in your  keynote, and again now. &nbsp;I was    there, which not many people in the  audience were&nbsp; [not too many hands   went up when Tim asked during his  keynote]. &nbsp;But I think one of  the things that struck me   was the jet  ponies â€“ they were just earthshaking to stand near. &nbsp;They   made the  ground tremble; they made the  world shake.&nbsp; Yet, most of your keynote,  and most of whatâ€™s on our minds here,   at Web 2.0 Expo, is extracting  intelligence from the big data [in the   sky],  and algorithmic  intelligences are the jet engines of the   internet.&nbsp; And of course, not  to be forgotten, as we are here in  New   York City, where the trading  markets are creating the air we breathe&nbsp;   [although we probably don't  realize it until we lose our mortgage or   something] and these  algorithmic economies or â€œrobot casinosâ€ as Kevin Slavin put it, are all  about speed â€“ itâ€™s not just real-time, issues of latency are&nbsp; so  critical that co-location is key to winning the game of the markets.&nbsp;  [Kevin Slavin brilliantly unpacks this in his talk, "Loitering on the  Motherboard."  For more in this see my conversation with Kevin Slavin  below].</p>
<p>So   my question is, whoâ€™s making the jet ponies for the algorithmic    economies in the sky that you just described?&nbsp;&nbsp; How can we make a play    from the bottom up?&nbsp; I always feel <a href="http://www.ushahidi.com/" mce_href="http://www.ushahidi.com/">Ushahidi</a> is one of the jet ponies of   the data  algorithmic space [because of  their great work to bring human   and machine intelligence together to  solve problems in crisis   situations]. &nbsp;But who do you think is doing  exciting work and how can we   ensure that this powerful  world of data  and algorithmic intelligences does not become hidden in a   closed black   box [only really accessible to elite players like the  NYC  trading  markets]?</p>
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<p><b>Tim Oâ€™Reilly: â€œWell, I think thereâ€™s certainly a lot of  interesting things happening    in, say, the financial services that a  lot of, kind of, the Internet    folks are kind of blind to. &nbsp;I think  that there are companies like <a href="http://www.nextjump.com/" mce_href="http://www.nextjump.com/" target="_blank">Next  Jump</a> which are really good with data and good with algorithms. But  kind of  speaking specifically to the maker side of this, that   whole  sensor  enabled world which is going to produce data is in its   infancy.  &nbsp;What  we have that I think is so powerful right now is we have   the first   portable sensor platform. &nbsp;I said in my talk the other day,   you know,   your phone has ears, it has eyes, it has a sense of where  it  is. &nbsp;And   these are all available to application developers. You know, you can  compare, say, Dodgeball to Foursquare, you can see how  differentâ€¦  Dodgeball is Foursquare in the tele-type era.&nbsp; Foursquare is now  possible because there are so many more capabilities  on the phone.</b></p>
<p><b>And  I think that we are going to see a lot of other areas  that are revolutionized by the sensors in the device. &nbsp;It could well be  that some    of them will come explicitly out of the maker kind of  projects, or it could just be that make is sort of a proxy for them.&nbsp; So  yeah, <a href="http://www.arduino.cc/" mce_href="http://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank">Arduino</a> is  this great maker sensor platform, but hey, hereâ€™s a    consumer sensor  platform [holding up phone]. Maybe we vaulted past  the  maker stage  already  and we just didnâ€™t know it.</b></p>
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<p><b>And  thatâ€™s not entirely true, because Arduino is building a  whole economy  of special purpose devices. &nbsp;But it feels a little bit  like the days when people rolling their own PCs coexisted with the rise  of Dell, who was a kid in his college dorm room who made his own PCs and  sold them  on the net, but figured out how to scale it pretty quickly  and get  good  at  it.  But  there were still a lot of garage shops, you  know, â€˜Iâ€™ll make a PC  and sell it to youâ€™ people for probably a decade  before there was   really a  clue that that was a commodity industry.  &nbsp;In fact, I do think   the sensor  platforms are going to become a  commodity industry. &nbsp;And  the  data that  is generated by the sensors  and the applications that  use  that data is  going to be where people  are going to be innovative.â€</b></p>
<h3><b>The internet operating system is a data operating system and it is happening in real time (Tim Oâ€™Reilly)<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5839" title="Hadooppost" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost-300x202.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hadooppost-300x202.jpg" alt="Hadooppost" height="202" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i>click to enlarge the image above&nbsp; â€“ a slide from Mike Olsenâ€™s&nbsp; (CEO of Cloudera) keynote at <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a></i></p>
<p>Not only  do  we have a portable sensor platform in our pockets&nbsp;    but developers also have  powerful platforms and tools to make sense of  data that fuel  our apps. &nbsp; Opensource <a href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" mce_href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" target="_blank">Hadoop</a> makes  available, to    anyone with   some data  munching chops, the  power to work  with giant  unstructured databases and  do <a target="_blank" mce_href="http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/getting-closer-to-real-time-with-hadoop/" href="http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/getting-closer-to-real-time-with-hadoop/">the kind of  real time  analytics</a>  previously only available to giants  like Google.&nbsp;  Big players  like  Yahoo, Facebook, and Twitter use Hadoop (Jonathon  Gray from Facebook noted they add 10TB <i>a day)</i>. &nbsp; But, as <a href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" mce_href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" target="_blank">this great roundup of Hadoop World </a>points  out, while Hadoop gets  the press for handling petabytes of data , Mike  Olsen (CEO of Cloudera) noted, the fastest growing area of  users are  working with clusters   smaller than 10TB and over half of the Hadoop  clusters were under 10TB in size.</p>
<h3>Four Square: A Platform for Growth with an ecosytem built on top of data that exists in the real world</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5888" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 2.27.19 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM-300x256.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-2.27.19-AM-300x256.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 2.27.19 AM" height="256" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>As an augmented reality enthusiast it is not hard to guess that one of my favorite platforms for growth is <a href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" mce_href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" target="_blank">Four Square</a>.&nbsp; See <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15652" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15652" target="_blank">Dennis Crowleyâ€™s keynote at Web 2.0 Expo</a> here.&nbsp; The Four Square API has been available to developers since   November 2009,&nbsp; and there are already a number of&nbsp; interesting   applications, and there will be many more to come.&nbsp; The screen shot  above is of <a href="http://geopollster.com/" mce_href="http://geopollster.com/" target="_blank">geopollster</a> â€“ <a href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" mce_href="http://foursquare.com/apps/" target="_blank">see the gallery of Four Square apps here</a>.</p>
<p><i><b><b><b>@dens  tweeted recently&nbsp; â€œPolitics +  @Foursquare = @GeoPollsterâ€   http://geopollster.com &lt;- I love love  love that people are using 4SQ   to think about election tools</b></b></b></i></p>
<p>As Kati London pointed out in her keynote, Four Square is the <b>â€œkind   of augmented reality that is aimed at shifting or  changing a   personâ€™s  social reality, e.g. the mayor badges in Four Square  that   change my  relationship to the people and the place I am in, and   augment   engagement and reputation through socially driven consumer tie   ins.â€ </b> We are already see augmented reality developers beginning to work with the Four Square API â€“ see here, <a href="http://recombu.com/apps/iphone/arstreets-app-review_M12590.html" mce_href="http://recombu.com/apps/iphone/arstreets-app-review_M12590.html" target="_blank">Foursquare + Augmented Reality + Virtual Graffiti = ARstreets</a>.</p>
<p>As augmented reality development tools mature, Four Square will, increasingly, become an important platform<b> </b>for creative AR developers interested in integrating the power of this platform for augmented engagement and reputation with <b>â€œdevice aided augmented  reality that can shift visual experiences of situated geolocal  experiences.â€ </b> With the <a href="http://developer.qualcomm.com/dev/augmented-reality" mce_href="http://developer.qualcomm.com/dev/augmented-reality" target="_blank">Qualcomm vision based augmented reality SDK</a> now available for download, and <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" mce_href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box</a> soon? to be released, and an <a href="http://arwave.org/" mce_href="http://arwave.org/" target="_blank">ARWave</a> client working on Android (almost!), I have been exploring the Four Square API in my non existent spare time!!</p>
<p>The Four Square API also offers some interesting possibilities for  exploring games that take the complex economy of Four Square â€“ not  personal data but aggregates of behavior, as their subject matter (for  more on this see my conversation with Kevin Slavin later in this post  and in an upcoming post).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5886" title="DennisatWhere2009post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post-199x300.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DennisatWhere2009post-199x300.jpg" alt="DennisatWhere2009post" height="300" width="199"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i>I took this picture of Dennis at <a href="http://where2conf.com/where2009/" mce_href="http://where2conf.com/where2009/" target="_blank">Where 2.0, 2009</a> at the beginning of Four Squareâ€™s phenomenal growth (they are at 4 million plus users now).</i></p>
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<h3><b><b><b>Pachube (Patch-Bay): </b></b></b>a web service for storing and sharing sensor, energy and environmental data</h3>
<p><b><b><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5838" title="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 7.58.17 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1-300x198.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-7.58.17-PM1-300x198.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 7.58.17 PM" height="198" width="300"></a><br />
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<p>Eighteen months ago, I interviewed Usman Haque (architect and director, <a id="o.td" title="Haque Design + Research" href="http://www.haque.co.uk/" mce_href="http://www.haque.co.uk/" target="_blank">Haque Design + Research</a>) and founder of <a id="cpbp" title="Pachube" href="http://www.pachube.com/" mce_href="http://www.pachube.com/">Pachube</a> â€“ see <a target="_blank">Pachube, Patching the Planet</a>. &nbsp; Usman pointed me to this wonderful evocative image from <a href="http://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm%20%3Chttp://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm" mce_href="http://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm%20%3Chttp://www.geog.ubc.ca/%7Etoke/Profile.htm" target="_blank">T.R. Okeâ€™s</a> book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Boundary-Layer-Climates-T-Oke/dp/0415043190" mce_href="http://www.amazon.com/Boundary-Layer-Climates-T-Oke/dp/0415043190" target="_blank">â€œBoundary Layer Climatesâ€</a> (original photo source Prof. L. E. Mountâ€™s <a href="http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=1137594&amp;matches=1&amp;author=Mount%2C+Laurence+Edward&amp;browse=1&amp;cm_sp=works*listing*title" mce_href="http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=1137594&amp;matches=1&amp;author=Mount%2C+Laurence+Edward&amp;browse=1&amp;cm_sp=works*listing*title" target="_blank">The Climatic Physiology of the Pig</a>).&nbsp; â€œ<i>Itâ€™s  the same piglets, in the same box, but on the right hand side  the  temperature has been increased. This small change in how the space  is  â€œprogrammedâ€ has dramatically changed the way the â€˜inhabitantsâ€™  relate  to each other and how they relate to their space.â€</i></p>
<h3><b><b><b><b><b><b>The Challenge of Connecting people and environments.</b></b></b></b></b></b></h3>
<p>At Web 2.0 Expo, I got  the opportunity to talk with Usman Haque again.&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.pachube.com/" mce_href="http://www.pachube.com/" target="_blank">Pachube,</a> is becoming an established platform now, Usman explained.&nbsp; They have a  development team of eleven and robust back end.&nbsp; And, they will now be  spending some more time on the front end, including a redesign of the  website,&nbsp;making <b>â€œit a lot easier to widgetize the entire website  so that you will be  able to take almost any element and embed that  into your own website.â€ </b>And, as <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/43845" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/43845" target="_blank">Usman mentioned in his presentation</a>,  they are working on an augmented reality interface, Porthole, for  facilities management and, â€œas a consumer-oriented application that  extends the universe of Pachube data into the context of AR â€“ a  â€˜portholeâ€™ into Pachubeâ€™s data environments..&nbsp; Usman is also  contributing to the AR standards discussion and on the program committee  now <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-w3car-minutes.html#item02" mce_href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-w3car-minutes.html#item02" target="_blank">for the W3C group on augmented reality</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5912" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 10.22.24 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM-300x134.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-10.22.24-PM-300x134.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 10.22.24 PM" height="134" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Click to enlarge the image above from Chris Burmanâ€™s paper for the W3C, <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/w3car/portholes_and_plumbing.pdf" mce_href="http://www.w3.org/2010/06/w3car/portholes_and_plumbing.pdf" target="_blank">Portholes and Plumbing: how AR erases boundaries between â€œphysicalâ€ and â€œvirtualâ€</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Pachube, is sometimes described as the Facebook    for Data or an  analogy Usman prefers, a Twitter for   Sensors.&nbsp; At Web 2.0 Expo, I had    an amazing opportunity  to   hear from Twitter and Facebook about  their strategies as platforms for growth.&nbsp; This gave me lots of fuel for  questions about Pachubeâ€™s approach to developing their platform.&nbsp;  Simplicity was a theme that Facebook&nbsp; and Twitter both affirmed as a  key.&nbsp; One of Pachubeâ€™s challenges will be to deliver ease of use, and  the equivalent of Facebookâ€™s â€œlikeâ€ and &nbsp;Twitterâ€™s â€œfollowâ€ to gain mass  appeal.</p>
<p>Here is a brief excerpt from my upcoming conversation with Usman:</p>
<p><b>Tish Shute</b>:  So as a platform you see Pachube as having  more in common with Twitter â€“ a Twitter for Sensors. In what ways is  Pachube similar to Twitter?</p>
<p><b>Usman Haque:  Well we are the Twitter of sensors, devices  &amp; machines in the sense that, really, the API that enables all this  communication is important, much more so than the website itself.  It is  where, basically, most of the millions of our hits actually go, is to  the backend.  And weâ€™ve now got dozens of applications built on top of  the system, a little bit like Twitterâ€™s applications; you know, all the  apps are the important part.</b></p>
<p><b>But we are actually going to be doing some quite exciting  things with API keys that we havenâ€™t really spoken that much about in  public.  But we have come up with a pretty innovative solution to make  almost every resource have granular privacy options on it, <a href="http://community.pachube.com/node/526" mce_href="http://community.pachube.com/node/526">now discussed here</a>. </b></p>
<p>At Hadoop World, Tim Oâ€™Reilly also raised some interesting broader  questions that are very relevant to Pachubeâ€™s vision to â€œpatch the  planetâ€, e.g, the problem of digital identity in the  age of sensors?  (Smart phones already know their users by the way they walk!) And, <b>â€œHow should we think about privacy in a world where data can be triangulated?â€</b></p>
<p>Usman talked about  Pachubeâ€™s approach to both the   technical  aspects of  how to build  a   massively scalable system, and the   conceptual aspects of  how people connect to  each other, and what they   might do with  these   new opportunities to  connect environments and     sensor data&nbsp; (see my   earlier talk with Usman, <a target="_blank">Pachube, Patching the Planet</a>, for a detailed    explanation of some of the   concepts behind  Pachube).</p>
<p>I look forward to posting this conversation.  Pachube is growing, and  Usman always goes beyond the familiar tropes of connecting human and  machine intelligence.</p>
<h3><b> 2nd Cylinder of Innovation: â€œHey Can We Change the World!â€</b></h3>
<p><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5826" title="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 5.26.55 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM-300x217.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-5.26.55-PM-300x217.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 5.26.55 PM" height="217" width="300"></a><br />
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<p>The possibilities for reimagining of the role of data in healthcare  produced some of the most powerful â€œHey Can We Change the Worldâ€ moments  for me at both Web 2.0 Expo and Hadoop World.&nbsp; The slide above is from Esther  Dysonâ€™s brilliant Ignite presentation, <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/ignitenyc/esther-dyson-what-you-can-and-cant-learn-from-your-genes" mce_href="http://www.slideshare.net/ignitenyc/esther-dyson-what-you-can-and-cant-learn-from-your-genes" target="_blank">â€œWhat you can and canâ€™t learn from your genes?â€ are here</a>,  &nbsp; Tim Oâ€™Reilly also brought up the powerful role real time data  analytics can play in improving healthcare in his Hadoop World Keynote.&nbsp;  Also see Alex Howardâ€™s post, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/top-10-lessons-for-gov-20-from.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/top-10-lessons-for-gov-20-from.html" target="_self">10 Lessons for Gov 2.0 from Web 2.0 </a>for some more great, â€œhey we can change the world momentsâ€ at Web 2.0 Expo.&nbsp; The keynote from <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" target="_blank">Lukas Biewald of CrowdFlower and Leila Chirayath Janah of Samasource </a>(screen shot below)<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15726" target="_blank"> </a>in particular, is a provocative exploration of the future of work in the new ecologies of human and machine intelligence.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5870" title="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 8.21.43 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM-300x184.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-8.21.43-PM-300x184.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 8.21.43 PM" height="184" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<h3><b>Changing the World When Our Lives Are Increasingly Shaped by Forces Invisible To Us?</b></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5840" title="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 11.49.32 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM-300x152.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-24-at-11.49.32-PM-300x152.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-24 at 11.49.32 PM" height="152" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
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<p>Mike Olsen, CEO of Cloudera, noted that <b>â€œthe largest area of  data growth does not come from humans interacting  with machines;  rather, itâ€™s from machines interacting with each otherâ€ </b>(see here in <a href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" mce_href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" target="_blank">Minor Technical Difficulties</a>).&nbsp;&nbsp; One of the most  interesting presentations at Web 2.0 Expo was <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/86516" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/speaker/86516" target="_blank">Kevin Slavinâ€™s, â€œLoitering  on the Motherboard,â€ </a>which,  as Tim Oâ€™Reilly pointed out in his keynote at Hadoop World, is a  talk  that raises all  kinds of questions about a system where big  players  are gaming the data  for their own ends.</p>
<p>Kevin Slavin, a founder of <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" mce_href="http://areacodeinc.com/">Area/Code</a>,  notes  the operating system of our mortgage, life insurance, the  operating  system of currencies and gold is now governed by machine to  machine  intelligence and algorithimic economies outside of human  cognitive  processes.&nbsp; The  markets are now legible only to bots  in an  algorithmic  arms race with bots surveilling bots, and throwing off   false  information in a bid for counter-surveillance.&nbsp; He showed some  slides of  the eery but beautiful visualizations of traces of the  trading bots  created from the Nanex API.</p>
<p>The screenshot above is from the <a href="http://www.nanex.net/FlashCrash/CCircleDay.html" mce_href="http://www.nanex.net/FlashCrash/CCircleDay.html" target="_blank">Nanex: Crop Circle of the Day â€“ Quote Stuffing and Strange Sequences</a>.&nbsp; <b>â€œThe   common theme with the charts shown on this page is they are  all   generated in code and are algorithmic. Some demonstrate  bizarre price   or size cycling, some demonstrate large burst of quotes in  extremely   short time frames and some will demonstrate bothâ€¦â€</b> This one is a   zoom of the NSDQ â€œWild Thing.â€&nbsp; Wild  price/size repeater from NSDQ   running at 1,000 quotes per second,  effecting the BBO along the way (I   love the great names Nanex gives the different patterns and traces   produced by the trading bots).</p>
<p>Nanex supplies a <a href="http://www.nanex.net/" mce_href="http://www.nanex.net/">real-time data feed</a> comprising trade and quote data for all US equity, option, and futures exchanges. They have <a href="http://www.nanex.net/historical.html" mce_href="http://www.nanex.net/historical.html">archived this data</a> since 2004 and have created and used numerous tools to â€œsift through   the enormous dataset: approximately 2.5 trillion quotes and trades as of   June 2010.â€ May 6th 2010 (day of the flash crash), had approximately  7.6  billion trade, quote, level 2, and depth records.</p>
<p>Kevin points out that our lives are being shaped by criteria  invisible to  us and the old hackneyed tropes of machine to machine  intelligence such a  robots reading HUDs in English are long worn out.&nbsp;  The latter  point is, perhaps, something for us augmented reality geeks  absorbed in  ideas of â€œmaking the invisible visibleâ€ to chew on.</p>
<p>Changing a world shaped by forces that are, increasingly, invisible to us presents a huge challenge.</p>
<p>But I had the glimmer of a, â€œHey Can We Change the Worldâ€ moment,  when I attended Kevin Slavin founder of Area/Codeâ€™s presentation and had  a conversation with him after his talk.&nbsp; Could games take these complex  economies as their subject matter?&nbsp; The economies of&nbsp; Farmville and  games like WoW are not opaque at all, and these are environments with  complex economic behavior, <b>â€œwhere you can actually have enough data to understand what it isâ€</b> â€“ <b>â€œitâ€™s not so much about personal data. &nbsp;Itâ€™s more about, like, aggregate behaviors.â€ </b> <b>â€œGames   that can really model those, and play with those, and take those as  the  subject the way that Monopoly takes Monopoly as a subject could be   really interesting.â€ </b>Kevin made many fascinating points â€“ more to come on this topic.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5980" title="Kevin Slavin" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin-300x199.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KevinSlavin-300x199.jpg" alt="Kevin Slavin" height="199" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Photo by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://duncandavidson.com/" mce_href="http://duncandavidson.com/">James Duncan Davidson</a>, of Kevin Slavin speaking at Web 2.0 Expo NY, 2010, from the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oreillyconf/5035426532/" mce_href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oreillyconf/5035426532/" target="_blank">Oâ€™Reilly Conferences Flickr stream</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>Here is the beginning of our conversation:</p>
<h3>Talking With Kevin Slavin</h3>
<p><b><b>Tish Shute: </b></b>You began your talk  today about visibility and where some of the  algorithmic masters of  disguise went to work, after they had solved the  math behind stealth  bombers. &nbsp;I thought perhaps you were leading into  ideas about a reverse  surveillance society.</p>
<p>But  you surprised me, as I felt you made visibility itself kind of a   non-issue by the end of your presentation and that counter  surveillance  became basically a time and speed issue. &nbsp;Now I am not  sure quite how to  imagine a counter-surveillance society, something I  try to think  aboutâ€¦</p>
<p><b><b>Kevin Slavin: Well, letâ€™s see. &nbsp;Thereâ€™s a couple ways  to think about it. &nbsp;I think  one point is just that when we talk about  counter-surveillance, we  usually locate that as something that comes  from &nbsp;the bottom up,  something that comes from the population. Think  about the way the  plane spotters discovered the CIA black rendition  flights.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>I  think in general, when people talk about counter  surveillance, or  sousveillance, they imagine it as an inversion of the  traditional  relationship between the people and the state.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>But  thatâ€™s whatâ€™s interesting. Whatâ€™s happening now,  is that there are  forms of surveillance and counter-surveillance that  are in play beyond  any human perceptual horizons. These forms are at  their most  sophisticated in financial services, in the markets.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>If  you were a bot, and could read the market legibly  (which humans  cannot), what you would see, effectively, are bots that  are surveilling  bots. Then you have bots that are throwing off false  information in a  bid for counter-surveillance. Many of the bots are,  themselves,  surveilling other bots; each one of them is trying to  figure out what  all the other ones are going to do. In essence, itâ€™s an  algorithmic arms  race, and game theory has become concrete, since the  theories are code,  the code is action, and the action affects, letâ€™s  say: your mortgage.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>And  so, basically what you have is you have this  series of algorithms that  are all looking to discern each other, while  also trying to prevent  themselves from being discerned. I think of the  tunnels under the  trenches in WWI, tunnels to surveil the trenches, and  then, later,  tunnels to surveil the tunnels. Thereâ€™s a few examples of  this kind of  thing. &nbsp;But Itâ€™s especially strange when itâ€™s computer  code, and at the  magnitude weâ€™re seeing today.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>All  of it, as noted in the talk, accounting for 70%  of all the trades in  the market. 70% of the market trades are never  touched by human hands or  even seen by human eyes; they donâ€™t move  through a conventional  cognitive process. &nbsp;And thatâ€™s why you get  things like the Credit Suisse  algorithm, it was buying, selling 200,000  shares of stocks to itself  over and over and over again. It was a bug  and it slowed the market to a  crawl.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Credit  Suisse was fined, in essence, for failing to  control an algorithm.  Maybe thatâ€™s the first time an algorithm was  treated like a human, in a  way. As if the algorithm broke the law, and  Credit Suisse was  responsible for letting it do so. For me, that feels  like a threshold  event.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Itâ€™s not that humans never made mistakes when trading on the market. But when algorithms err, they err with magnitude.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>The  idea that we now have bugs in the United States  market economy is  really worth looking at. &nbsp;If Apple canâ€™t keep code  bugs from the most  simple iPhone apps in a closed and regulated  ecosystem, Iâ€™m pretty  certain weâ€™ll have a lot more Credit Suisse type  bugs in the future.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>And  that will be pretty interesting. There will be  viruses, and the  operating system they will operate on will be the  operating system of  the United States. The operating system of your  pension, your house,  your life insurance. The operating system of  currencies and gold.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Tish Shute:</b></b> I was hard-pressed by  the end of your talk to think of like, â€œWell,  what would be the  equivalent of, sort of a peopleâ€™s uprising to create a  better fairer  society in this kind of world where, really, the things  that affect the  key aspects of lives most are going on beyond human perception at an  algorithmic  level?â€&nbsp; But you made a pretty radical suggestion at the  endâ€¦</p>
<p><b><b>Kevin Slavin: Well  I think increasingly the markets  have become delaminated from anything  meaningful. First from goods,  then from fundamentals, and now finally  from homo sapiens. So thatâ€™s  hard to fight.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Itâ€™s  the race towards abstraction that makes it  impossible to simply  â€œresist.â€ The latest version in the long series of  fiscal catastrophes  was based on Wall Street finding goods that could  be rolled up and sold  with false valuations, but goods that would take a  long time to fail.  Mortgages are handy like that. Itâ€™s the tradition  of extending the  abstraction as long as possible, until finally the  bill arrives and the  banks fail. I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™s something to  rise up against or not.  Itâ€™s like a rally against evil.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>But  really, I think the point is that it wonâ€™t be  the people that rise up.  It will be the financial services themselves  that rise up. Theyâ€™ll just  detach completely.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>That  was harder to do with cotton or with wheat,  with simple futures; they  keep financial services tied to the ground.  &nbsp;So what weâ€™re doing is  creating increasingly complex financial  instruments that are further and  further removed from anything you can  touch. &nbsp;Like the way a mortgage  is abstract. But, of course, the bottom  line is that at the end of that  mortgage lies someoneâ€™s home.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>Itâ€™s  said that Wall Street is now moving onto life  insurance, because thatâ€™s  going to take even longer to fail. &nbsp;Theyâ€™re  doing the exact same thing.  The word is that they are rolling up CDOs  made out of crap life  insurance policies, same way they rolled them up  with crap mortgages a  few years ago.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>And  those will probably take, I donâ€™t know, 15 or 20  years to unwrap and  unravel. &nbsp;But what you see in the meantime, is  that they are looking for  things that are increasingly abstract,  intangible, removed as far as  possible from the experience of everyday  life.</b></b></p>
<p><b><b>So  maybe this is good. Maybe thatâ€™s financial  services rising up. Lifting  off. I think best case scenario now is that  they actually leave humans  alone altogether. &nbsp;That, someday, they are  just trading, effectively,  completely arbitrary goods, the stocks could  be anything at all, maybe  for crops that no longer exist, and Iâ€™m just  saying that then these bots  would no longer affect what we do and what  we are, it would just be a  robot casino, an invisible paradise in the  air.</b></b></p>
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<h3><b><b>People are the platform: How Games Can Be Engines of Innovation in Our Lives</b></b></h3>
<p><b><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5872" title="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 11.34.58 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM-300x204.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-25-at-11.34.58-PM-300x204.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-25 at 11.34.58 PM" height="204" width="300"></a><br />
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<p><i><b><b>See the video of <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">Games that Know Where We Live</a> here (screen shot above)<br />
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<p>Kati London, Senior Producer, <a href="http://areacodeinc.com/" mce_href="http://areacodeinc.com/">Area/Code</a>, in her keynote showed how <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">games that know where we  live</a> can shift players perspectives â€“ from device aided augmented  reality  that can shift visual experiences of situated geolocal  experiences to a  kind of augmented reality that is aimed at shifting or  changing a  personâ€™s social reality, e.g. the mayor badges in Four Square  that  change my relationship to the people and the place I am in, and  augment  engagement and reputation through socially driven consumer tie  ins.</p>
<p>Area/Code has recently developed<a id="internal-source-marker_0.7281649763651145" href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129" mce_href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129"> two games for the Knight Foundation</a> that take people as the platform.&nbsp; Macon  Money, uses very simple games dynamics (for more <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15446" target="_blank">see the video</a> of Katiâ€™s keynote) in a game designed to help â€œKnightâ€™s continuing  efforts  to support revitalizing Macon and creating a vibrant college  town.â€</p>
<p>The  other game that Area/Code has designed with the support of the  Knight  Foundation &nbsp;is for the Biloxi and Gulf Coast community, a game  called  Battlestorm.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129" mce_href="http://www.knightfoundation.org/news/press_room/knight_press_releases/detail.dot?id=370129"> â€œThe gameâ€™s purpose is to increase awareness about natural disasters and change the way people prepare for them.â€</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
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<h3><b>3rd Cylinder of Innovation: Build products, business models and entire industries.</b></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5822" title="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.06.57 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM-300x151.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.06.57-PM-300x151.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.06.57 PM" height="151" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><a href="http://www.glympse.com/" mce_href="http://www.glympse.com/" target="_blank">Glympse</a> â€“ real-time, private location tracking</p>
<p>Julianne Pepitone, Yahoo! Finance, nailed the essence of Web 2.0 Expo, NYC, this year in her post, <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Web-20-Expo-startups-are-big-cnnm-2700333063.html?x=0&amp;.v=2" mce_href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Web-20-Expo-startups-are-big-cnnm-2700333063.html?x=0&amp;.v=2" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo startups are big on neighborhoods, storytelling</a>.&nbsp; She writes:</p>
<p><b>â€œAt   the Web 2.0 Expo in New York City this week, executives  from big   sites  like Facebook, Twitter and Pandora all spoke about  industry   trends.  But the showcase of 27 startup tech companies stole  the show.â€</b></p>
<p>Listen  carefully to Tim Oâ€™Reilly and Fred Wilson, Union Square Ventures,  question their picks from the<a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15525" mce_href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2010/public/schedule/detail/15525" target="_blank"> startup showcase</a> at Web 2.0 Expo.&nbsp; Also see <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbui5_5_NCA&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbui5_5_NCA&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank">this video of Fred and Tim discussing their conversations with all the start ups</a>.&nbsp;  This&nbsp; is one of the clearest public windows onto both how to present  your company to VC, and how to figure out what are the most important   questions for you as an entrepreneur&nbsp; building a  business in a world of  data.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.glympse.com/" mce_href="http://www.glympse.com/">Glympse</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKScQbPvVc&amp;feature=channel" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKScQbPvVc&amp;feature=channel" target="_blank">successfully  pitches </a>their  â€œjet ponyâ€ strategy for a  location based business, and is Fredâ€™s  pick.&nbsp; They hold up well under pressure and  answer Tim and Fredâ€™s hard  questions  about how their start up will not  get overtaken by an  encumbent player with resources  and market share before they can gain   traction.&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.food52.com/" mce_href="http://www.food52.com/">food52</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZZ0apJTUQA&amp;feature=channel" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZZ0apJTUQA&amp;feature=channel" target="_blank">responds to Timâ€™s probing about their  strategy</a> for business data  analytics that he points out are vital if they  want  to survive with the  small margins of ecommerce.&nbsp; There is a list of  all the participants in the start up showcase in Bradyâ€™s <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/the-startups-at-the-expo-showc.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/the-startups-at-the-expo-showc.html" target="_blank">post here.</a> <a href="http://hour.ly/" mce_href="http://hour.ly/" target="_blank">hour.ly</a> was the audience pick.</p>
<h3><a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for Faces!</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5897" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.14.52 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM-300x134.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.14.52-AM-300x134.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.14.52 AM" height="134" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>My favorite start up  was a biometric service doing face, iris, and finger print matching,<a href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/" mce_href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/" target="_blank"> Tactical Information Systems</a>.</p>
<p>Tim and Fred also liked them, and they have an interesting discussion  about the merits or not of approaching your platform through a narrow  first application as Tactical Information Systems are with <a href="http://www.wanderid.org/" mce_href="http://www.wanderid.org/" target="_blank">WanderID</a> -&nbsp; an application to help identifying lost Alzheimer patients.&nbsp; As Fred pointed out, they are potentially the <a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for faces, so why start so small?</p>
<p>I&nbsp; had asked TIS the same question when I met them in the â€œspeed  datingâ€ session.&nbsp; This is just their first toe in the water as they are a  two person company at the moment. Their vision for their platform is  big.&nbsp; Mary Haskett and Dr Alex Kilpatrick, the founders of this  quintessential jet pony for the algorithmic economies in the sky, are  not only a partnership with the credentials to do a&nbsp; <a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for faces â€“ <a href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/about.html" mce_href="http://www.tacticalinfosys.com/about.html" target="_blank">see their bios here</a>, they are the people I would want to be running a <a href="http://www.shazam.com/" mce_href="http://www.shazam.com/" target="_blank">Shazam</a> for faces!&nbsp; They really get the consequences of living in a world of  data â€“ check out Dr Kilpatrickâ€™s absolute killer Ignite talk, <a href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" mce_href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" target="_blank">â€œDefeating Big Brother.â€</a> (screenshot below)</p>
<p><i><b><b><b><a href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" mce_href="http://ignite.oreilly.com/2010/10/defeating-big-brother-by-dr-alex-kilpatrick-ep-75.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5819" title="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.03.11 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM-300x229.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-23-at-11.03.11-PM-300x229.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-23 at 11.03.11 PM" height="229" width="300"></a><br />
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<h3>How Can Augmented Reality Add Value to the Real Time Internet/Data Operating System?</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5896" title="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.12.57 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM-300x199.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-26-at-4.12.57-AM-300x199.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-26 at 4.12.57 AM" height="199" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><i> <a href="http://www.planefinder.net/" mce_href="http://www.planefinder.net/" target="_blank">planefinder.net</a> â€“ an augmented reality app that lets you find information about planes  by pointing your phone at the sky, â€œincluding flight  number, aircraft  registration, speed, altitude and how far away  it isâ€ (via <a href="http://www.maclife.com/article/news/do_some_plane_scouting_augmented_reality_plane_finder_app" mce_href="http://www.maclife.com/article/news/do_some_plane_scouting_augmented_reality_plane_finder_app">MacLife</a>).</i></p>
<p>The new opportunities in the algorithmic economies in the sky were    center stage at Web 2.0 Expo and there are some interesting AR apps for  the real time internet/data operating system emerging, like <a href="http://www.planefinder.net/" mce_href="http://www.planefinder.net/" target="_blank">planefinder.net</a>.&nbsp; But Augmented Reality was still pretty   low profile at Web 2.0 Expo (<a target="_blank">except that NVidia augmented reality demo attracted a lot of attention at the sponsors expo</a>).&nbsp;  However, everyone working in the emerging industry of AR should  recognize that   apps big on â€œneighborhoods and story tellingâ€ are  heading right up the   AR street, and that platforms like Four Square  and Pachube present enormous opportunity to explore the possibilities of  AR.&nbsp; And if augmented reality enthusiasts are not already paying    attention to real time data analytics, and <a href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" mce_href="http://hadoop.apache.org/" target="_blank">Hadoop</a>, they should be (see <a href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" mce_href="http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2010/10/12/hadoop-world-2010/" target="_blank">this post for an excellent round up</a> on Hadoop World).</p>
<p>At Hadoop World, Tim Oâ€™Reilly referenced the great tagline from the&nbsp; <a href="http://vimeo.com/11742135" mce_href="http://vimeo.com/11742135">IBM commercial</a>:</p>
<p><i><b><b><b><b>â€œ</b></b></b></b></i><b><b><b><b>Would you be willing to cross the street â€” blindfolded â€” on  data that was five minutes old? Five hours? Five days?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p>As I have noted in several earlier posts â€“ <a href="../../2010/09/27/urban-games-storytelling-with-augmented-reality-the-big-arny-and-inside-ar-talking-with-thomas-alt-metaio/" mce_href="../../2010/09/27/urban-games-storytelling-with-augmented-reality-the-big-arny-and-inside-ar-talking-with-thomas-alt-metaio/" target="_blank">see here</a> and <a href="../../2010/08/05/vision-based-augmented-reality-ar-in-smart-phones-qualcomms-ar-sdk-interview-with-jay-wright/" mce_href="../../2010/08/05/vision-based-augmented-reality-ar-in-smart-phones-qualcomms-ar-sdk-interview-with-jay-wright/" target="_blank">here</a> for starters,&nbsp; we are just seeing the tools&nbsp; for developing near field,  vision based, mobile, social AR become widely available to developers,  so there should be a new level of AR apps emerging through 2011.&nbsp; There  is a wonderful discussion in the comments of this post by Mac  Slocum, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/two-ways-augmented-reality-app.html" mce_href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/two-ways-augmented-reality-app.html" target="_blank">â€œHow Augmented Reality Apps Can Catch On,â€ </a> between Mac, Raimo one of     the founders of <a href="http://www.layar.com/" mce_href="http://www.layar.com/" target="_blank">Layar</a>, and <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" mce_href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/" target="_blank">Chris Arkenberg</a> on what constitutes a platform for growth for     augmented reality.</p>
<p>Macâ€™s post, the comments and <a href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/10/13/is-ar-ready-for-the-trough-of-disillusionment/" mce_href="http://www.urbeingrecorded.com/news/2010/10/13/is-ar-ready-for-the-trough-of-disillusionment/" target="_blank">Chris Arkenbergâ€™s post</a> on the <a href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613" mce_href="http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613" target="_blank">latest edition of the Gartner Hype Cycle,</a> that rather curiously placed Augmented reality almost at the peak of  inflated expectations. really got me excited     about exploring an idea  I have been thinking about for a while, which   is   to get the AR  community to discuss the <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/">Points of Control map</a>. &nbsp;&nbsp; See my discussion with Chris Arkenberg here, <a rel="bookmark" href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" target="_blank">Platforms for Growth and Points of Control for Augmented Reality</a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/10/27/platforms-for-growth-and-points-of-control-for-augmented-reality-talking-with-chris-arkenberg/" target="_blank">.</a> The recording of&nbsp; John Battelle&#8217;s and Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s webcast on Points of Control <a href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/oreillymedia#p/c/7/8CEyHSoWJcs" target="_blank">is posted here.</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5932" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.01.38 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM-300x124.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-2.01.38-AM-300x124.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 2.01.38 AM" height="124" width="300"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p><a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">The interactive Points of Control map</a> is an amazing  tool    to think with! Check it out  in movements, territory and movements, acquisition mode.&nbsp; There is a  competition for the most interesting comment and most interesting  acquisition suggestion.&nbsp; The prize is a ticket to Web 2.0 Summit!</p>
<h3>What is the Future of Social?</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5987" title="ARwave_logo_small" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ARwave_logo_small.png" alt="ARwave_logo_small" height="146" width="208"></a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>The recent â€œdefectionâ€ from Google to Facebook â€“ see <a title="Lars Rasmussen, Father Of Google Maps And Google Wave, Heads To&nbsp;Facebook" rel="bookmark" href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/29/rasmussen-facebook-google/" mce_href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/29/rasmussen-facebook-google/">Lars Rasmussen, Father Of Google Maps And Google Wave, Heads To&nbsp;Facebook</a>,&nbsp; is as MG Siegler of TechCrunch points out, â€œthe biggest one since Chrome OS lead <a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/matthew-papakipos" mce_href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/matthew-papakipos">Matthew Papakipos </a>made <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/closing-in-on-chrome-os-launch-key-architect-matthew-papakipos-jumps-to-facebook/" mce_href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/closing-in-on-chrome-os-launch-key-architect-matthew-papakipos-jumps-to-facebook/">the same jump in June</a>â€ (TechCrunch also notes â€œcurrent Facebook CTO <a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/bret-taylor" mce_href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/bret-taylor">Bret Taylor</a> was heavily involved in the launch of Google Mapsâ€).</p>
<p>These moves have drawn my particular attention as did <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDYjA5RGCU&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDYjA5RGCU&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank">Bret Taylorâ€™s response in his conversation with Brady Forrest at Web 2.0 Expo</a> to Bradyâ€™s question, <b>â€œHow soon until we get the Facebook firehose?â€ </b></p>
<p>If you have been reading Ugotrade you already know<b> </b>how  important I think an open, distributed, standard for  real-time  communications such as the very innovative Wave Federation Protocol  could be for AR development&nbsp; -&nbsp; see <a href="http://www.arwave.org/" mce_href="http://www.arwave.org/" target="_blank">ARWave </a>and <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" mce_href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" target="_blank">my presentation at MoMo13, Amsterdam</a> last year, <a rel="bookmark" href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/11/19/the-next-wave-of-ar-mobile-social-interaction-right-here-right-now/" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/11/19/the-next-wave-of-ar-mobile-social-interaction-right-here-right-now/" target="_blank">The Next Wave of AR: Mobile Social Interaction Right Here, Right Now!</a><br mce_bogus="1"></p>
<p>The anticipated release of&nbsp; <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" mce_href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box, </a>has  raised hopes in the developer community that&nbsp; WFP will soon become  easier to work with, and hopefully more widely adopted.&nbsp; Like many  others, I wonder what will happen to <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" mce_href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box</a> now?</p>
<p>But the innovation of Wave is deep and broad (and as many have  pointed out hugely ambitious).&nbsp; Perhaps the boldest attempt yet to  innovate both at the low level of architecture (where Google is so  powerful) and at the high level of <b>the Mark Zuckerberg, â€œbig idea,â€ which  as Tim Oâ€™Reilly notes is, â€œWhat is the future of social?â€ </b> MG Siegler  noted <a title="Facebook Groups Is Sort Of Like Google Wave For Human&nbsp;Beings" rel="bookmark" href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/07/facebook-groups-google-wave/" mce_href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/07/facebook-groups-google-wave/">Facebook Groups Is Sort Of Like Google Wave For Human&nbsp;Beings</a>.</p>
<p>But I deeply hope that the open, distributed standard part of the Wave big idea is not lost in the mix here.</p>
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<h3><b>Fourth Cylinder of Innovation: Keep the Ecosystem Going, Create More Value than You Capture<br />
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<p><i><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-21-at-5.58.27-AM.png" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-21-at-5.58.27-AM.png"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM.png" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5931" title="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 1.56.15 AM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM-300x181.png" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Screen-shot-2010-10-27-at-1.56.15-AM-300x181.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-10-27 at 1.56.15 AM" height="181" width="300"></a><br />
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<p><i>The Points of Control map is interactive, so please <a href="http://map.web2summit.com/" mce_href="http://map.web2summit.com/" target="_blank">click here </a>or on the image above for the full experience.</i></p>
<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly points out that there is a worrisome dark side to the Points of Control Map â€“ see <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" mce_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3637xFBvkYg&amp;p=6F97A6F4BA797FB3" target="_blank">Timâ€™s keynote here</a>.&nbsp; To paraphrase some or his points:</p>
<p>There are companies on the map that are forgetting to think about  creating a sustainable ecosystem.&nbsp; Rather than growing the pie, they are  trying to divide up the pie and that threatens to cause the fourth  cylinder of innovation to misfire.&nbsp; This fourth cylinder is essential to  the ecosystem.</p>
<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly looks back to the lessons of the personal computing  industry which was incredibly vital and creative, and lots of people  made money until a couple of big players <b>â€œsucked all the air out of the ecosystemâ€</b> and innovation had to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>The Power of Platforms is to create value not just for your company  but for other people.&nbsp;&nbsp; Create value for yourself by creating value for  other people.&nbsp; Tim Oâ€™Reilly used the wonderful example of&nbsp; Henry Ford  inventing the weekend so that there would be enough people with time and  money to buy his mass produced cars.&nbsp; Think about building the  ecosystem that will support the future your are going to build.&nbsp; Grow  the pie rather than cut up the pie.&nbsp; This will be the vital fourth  cylinder of innovation in a <a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank">Web Squared</a> world.</p>
<p>Tim Oâ€™Reilly has long proposed that&nbsp;<a href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" mce_href="http://www.cloudera.com/company/press-center/hadoop-world-nyc/" target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/go/web2" mce_href="http://www.oreillynet.com/go/web2">Web 2.0 is all about harnessing collective intelligence</a>,&nbsp; But as Gartner predicts, â€œ<span lang="EN-GB">By  year end 2012, physical sensors will create 20 percent of non-video  internet traffic.â€ </span><span lang="EN-GB"> </span>Yet   another  previously unevenly distributed future is going mainstream,  and if you havenâ€™t read it already, now is the time to read<span lang="EN-GB"> this  paper by Tim Oâ€™Reilly and John Batelle, </span><a href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2009/public/schedule/detail/10194" mce_href="http://www.web2summit.com/web2009/public/schedule/detail/10194" target="_blank">Web Squared: Web 2.0 Five Years On</a>.</p>
<h3><b><b><b>The Consequences of Living in a World of Data</b></b></b></h3>
<p><i><b><b><b><b><a href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg" mce_href="../wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg" mce_href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5817" title="Dataarmsrace" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace-300x199.jpg" mce_src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Dataarmsrace-300x199.jpg" alt="Dataarmsrace" height="199" width="300"></a><br />
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<p>To bring this very long post to a close!&nbsp; Here are just a few of the  key questions re The Consequences of Living in a World of Data that Tim  Oâ€™Reilly raised during his keynote for Hadoop World:</p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow would we solve the problem of  digital identity in the age of sensors? (Our smart phones are able to  know their users by the way they walk â€“ their gait!)</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow will we input data when our devices are smart enough to listen on their own?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow should we think about privacy in a world where data can be triangulated?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œWe are moving to a world in which  every device generates useful data, in which every action creates  information shadows on the net.â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œShouldnâ€™t we regulate the misuse of data rather than the possession of it?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œHow do we avoid a data arms race?â€</b></b></b></b></p>
<p><b><b><b><b>â€œCreate more value than you capture.â€</b></b></b></b></p>
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		<title>Urban Augmented Realities and Social Augmentations that Matter: Talking with Bruce Sterling, Part 2</title>
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<p>Social Augmented Experiences leveraging geoawareness and human and machine intelligence to create real time information brokerages, combined with an augmented reality view, can create a new opportunities to reimagine our relationships with each other and our environment.</p>
<p>This   Summer, I have been on a blogging hiatus, which has meant I haven&#8217;t   been sharing as  frequently and, unfortunately, the second half of two conversations I had earlier this year, both of which have much influence my thinking on social augmented reality, have languished in private mode -Â  part 2 of my talk with Bruce  Sterling (see <a title="Permanent Link to Interview with Bruce Sterling, Part I: At the 9am of the Augmented Reality Industry, are2010" rel="bookmark" href="../../2010/06/16/interview-with-bruce-sterling-part-i-at-the-9am-of-the-augmented-reality-industry-are2010/">Interview with Bruce Sterling, Part I: At the 9am of the Augmented Reality Industry, are2010</a>, and part 2 of my conversation with Anselm   Hook <a title="Permanent Link to Visual Search, Augmented Reality and a Social Commons for the Physical World Platform: Interview with Anselm Hook" rel="bookmark" href="../../2010/01/17/visual-search-augmented-reality-and-a-social-commons-for-the-physical-world-platform-interview-with-anselm-hook/">- Visual Search, Augmented Reality and a Social Commons for the Physical World Platform: Interview with Anselm Hook, Part 1.</a> Time to get caught up on some blogging!Â  The lightly edited transcript of Part 2 of <a href="#tag1">my conversation with Bruce Sterling is posted in full below</a>.</p>
<p>Bruce Sterling has been blogging all the key developments in augmented reality (amongst other topics of interest!) on <a href="http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/" target="_blank">his Wired Blog</a>, and <a href="http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2010/08/augmented-reality-augmented-foraging/" target="_blank">he brought my attention</a> to <a href="http://libarynth.org/augmented_foraging">Boskoi</a> the <a title="http://www.ushahidi.com/" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ushahidi.com/">Ushahidi</a> based app for Android phones, <a href="http://lib.fo.am/augmented_foraging" target="_blank">augmented foraging </a>pictured in use above &#8211; for more pics see<span> <a href="http://fightthegooglejugend.com/index.html" target="_blank">fightthegooglejugend</a>. </span></p>
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<h3><strong><strong>Augmented Reality and Real Time Information Brokerages</strong></strong></h3>
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<p><em><span>Picture above is the path the &#8220;nomads&#8221; took through the Westhaven cryptoforest with Pieter Bol,co-auteur of the book <a href="http://www.biologicalglobalisation.com/">Biological Globalisation</a> and Theun Karelse of <a href="http://urbanedibles.blogspot.com/">Urban Edibles Amsterdam</a> &#8220;who presented his &#8216;augmented foraging&#8217; app <a href="http://libarynth.org/augmented_foraging">Boskoi.</a>&#8220;Â   For more see, <a href="http://fightthegooglejugend.com/cryptoforests.html" target="_blank">The Cryptoforests of Utrecht </a>and, <a href="http://fightthegooglejugend.com/westraven.html" target="_blank">Westra</a><a href="http://fightthegooglejugend.com/westraven.html" target="_blank">ven Psychogeography, 6 June 2010.</a> </span><span> </span><span>Note</span><span>: Cryptoforests: 1) Urban forests hidden from view 2) Urban fallows that might or might </span><span> </span><span>not be considered as forests 3) Gardens gone wild)</span></em></p>
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<p>My interest in the Ushahidi family of ideas was already fired up by a conversation with <a href="http://www.hook.org/" target="_blank">Anselm Hook</a> early this year.Â  We discussed a number of <a href="http://vimeo.com/ushahidi">Ushahidi</a> related    projects, <a href="http://swift.ushahidi.com/" target="_blank">Swift</a>, Crisis Filter and Anselm&#8217;s project <a href="http://hook.org/" target="_blank">Angel</a>, Augmented    Reality, and my own keen interest in an open, real time, distributed platform for    augmented reality &#8211; <a href="http://www.arwave.org/" target="_blank">ARWave</a>.</p>
<p>The Ushahidi platform and the related project Swift has pioneered the real  time brokerage of information with people acting in curatorial roles or  matchmaking roles coevolving with machine assisted  matching to connect wants to haves.Â  Ushahidi uses multiple gateways including SMS, and Twitter.Â  But the Ushahidi family of ideas is extremely interesting when combined with augmented reality and suggests many new possibilities for social augmented experiences, as Anselm pointed out, for human to human communications, human  to  civilization communication, and human to environment communications (e.g., perhaps, how machine intelligence can help bridge the difference in time scale that Kate Hartman explores in her, <a href="http://vimeo.com/10352604"> Research for Glacier-Human Communication Techniques).</a></p>
<p>Ushahidi, which means &#8220;testimony&#8221; in Swahili, is a website that was    initially  developed to map reports of violence in Kenya after the post-election  fallout at the beginning of 2008.  It is now an open platform with a wide range of applications and growing developer community.Â  See <a href="http://vimeo.com/7838030">What is  the Ushahidi Platform?</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/ushahidi">Ushahidi</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://swift.ushahidi.com/" target="_blank">Swift </a>- a project that emerged from the Ushahidi dev community, is a human sensor/real-time brokerage for dealing with emergencies, enabling the filtering and verification of real-time data from channels such as Twitter, SMS, Email and RSS feeds.</p>
<p><a href="http://libarynth.org/augmented_foraging">Boskoi</a> &#8211; <a href="http://lib.fo.am/augmented_foraging" target="_blank">augmented foraging </a><span>is the first app,Â  I have seen, to begin linking Ushahidi with augmented reality  &#8211; although I don&#8217;t think there is a full augmented view for Boskoi developed yet?</span></p>
<h3><strong>&#8220;The whole point of AR is to see things from a different point of view&#8230;&#8221;</strong></h3>
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<p><em>Click to enlarge poster from upcoming ARWave demo at Software Freedom Day &#8211; for more see below</em></p>
<p>I am often asked what augmented reality brings to the table with respect to location based social networking, which is on the verge of going mainstream in smart phone apps like <a href="http://foursquare.com/">Four Square</a>. While the first part to my answer is usually to explain what is unique to augmented reality.</p>
<p>As Bo Begole notes, the full vision of AR requires machine   perception  technologies to detect  the identity and physical   configuration of  objects relative to each  other to accurately project   information  alongside/overlaid with a physical object (see this post on the PARC Blog by Bo Begole on the <a href="http://bit.ly/9Rsh79">difference between AR and ubiquitous computing</a> &#8211; thank you <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/2010/09/12/weekly-linkfest-62/" target="_blank">Rouli for bringing my attention to this</a>).</p>
<p>But it is only in recent months that we have begun to see the kind of tools that make this possible become freely available to developers &#8211; see<a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/08/05/vision-based-augmented-reality-ar-in-smart-phones-qualcomms-ar-sdk-interview-with-jay-wright/" target="_blank"> my interview with Jay Wright of Qualcomm here</a>. Â  Also see this post on <a href="http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/" target="_blank">Bundler: Structure from Motion for Unordered Image Collections</a> an open source system that allows the creation of 3D point clouds from unordered image collections, e.g. internet image collections.Â  We now have many tools available to move mobile augmented reality beyond the recent crop of apps relying on GPS and compass alone for positioning into a new era of vision assisted AR apps that will increasingly bring the full vision of AR into our daily lives.</p>
<p>Further, the  integration of visual search  applications   like <a href="http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/#text">Google Goggles</a> and <a href="http://www.kooaba.com/">Kooaba</a> which can detect the identity of particular objects will add another vital tool to machine perception technologies enabling AR &#8220;checkins&#8221; on potentially anything in the physical world around us, and more fuel to the <a href="http://gamepocalypsenow.blogspot.com/">Gamepocalypse</a> (e.g. it would be easy to turn every trash can in the city into a basketball hoop as we discussed at the <a href="http://www.meetup.com/ARNY-Augmented-Reality-New-York/" target="_blank">ARNY</a> meetup last month).Â   And soon, the Pandora&#8217;s Box ofÂ  facial recognition (Google Goggles have the capability though it is not released to the  public  yet) will open up.</p>
<p>Jesse Schell described the importance of AR in a nutshell <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/08/25/are2010-keynote-by-jesse-schell-augmented-reality-will-define-the-21st-century/" target="_blank">in his keynote for are2010</a>:</p>
<p><strong>â€œThe  whole point of AR is to see things from a different point of  viewâ€¦How  can there be a more powerful art form than one that actually  changes  what you see?â€</strong></p>
<p>But how AR matures as a social experience will be the key to Jesse&#8217;s suggestion that:</p>
<p><strong>â€œAugmented Reality will be one of the things that fundamentally define the 21st centuryâ€</strong></p>
<p>There are many interesting forms of AR that are not reliant on a tight  registration between media and physical objects &#8211; several are put forward by Bruce in the convo below.Â  And, it is likely we will see AR eyewear as an occasional useful accessory to a smart phone long before we have the sexy, affordable augmented reality eyewear worn that we wear throughout the day. Â  <a href="http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/08/31/speech-to-text-glasses/" target="_blank">These speech to text glasses</a> would be a very useful and viable accessory to a smart phone right now for the hearing impaired.</p>
<p>For the moment, as Bruce notes, some of the most interesting and useful augmented experiences to date have not been in the cell phone space:</p>
<p><strong> &#8220;There are other aspects of AR besides the cell phone space. Thereâ€™s  Total Immersion&#8217;s big display screens. Thereâ€™s the web-based fiduciary  stuff. And thereâ€™s projection mapping. And then thereâ€™s experience  design just for people who need their reality augmented for whatever  personal or social reason.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>On of my favorite social AR experiences is this<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnKSKaY1Yw&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank"> SMS Slingshot</a>.</p>
<p>But I have been excited for a long while about the intersection of mobile social augmented    reality, real time communications, and ubiquitous computing see <a title="Permanent Link to Total Immersion and the â€œTransfigured City:â€ Shared Augmented Realities, the â€œWeb Squared Era,â€ and Google Wave" rel="bookmark" href="../../2009/09/26/total-immersion-and-the-transfigured-city-shared-augmented-realities-the-web-squared-era-and-google-wave/">Total Immersion and the â€œTransfigured City:â€ Shared Augmented Realities, the â€œWeb Squared Era,â€ and Google Wave</a>.Â    And I have  described in    many places why I think real time, open,   distributed communications  for AR are so    important to developing social augmented experiences &#8211; see <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/TishShute/ar-wave-a-proof-of-concept-federation-game-dynamics-semantic-search-mobile-social-communications" target="_blank">the slides for my talk at Augmented Reality Event here</a>, <a href="../../2010/04/02/ar-wave-at-where-2-0-exploring-social-augmented-experiences/" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" target="_blank">here</a> for starters.</p>
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<h3><strong> ARWave at Software Freedom Day 2010, September 18th 2010<br />
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<p>Thomas Wrobel and Bertine van Hovell will demo the first ARWave Android client <a href="http://www.sfd2010.nl/" target="_blank">at Software Freedom Day this weekend</a>!</p>
<p>A number of people have asked me, (including Bruce), What will be the future of ARWave now that Google Wave is no longer a stand alone application?Â  Yes, the recently announced release of <a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/09/wave-open-source-next-steps-wave-in-box.html" target="_blank">Wave in a Box</a> (see <a href="http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2010/09/google-sticks-wave-source-in-a-box-sticks-a-bow-on-top.ars" target="_blank">here </a>and<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_announces_wave_in_a_box.php" target="_blank"> here</a>) is very exciting for the ARWave team.</p>
<p>The ARWave Android client is the  first open AR client built on an open, real time, distributed platform -Â  based on a server that anyone can download and set up, currently the  &#8220;FedOne&#8221; server but Wave in a Box, hopefully,  will be even easier to deploy.Â  Wave in a Box seems perfect for ARWave&#8217;s needs &#8211;  for more <a href="https://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/70067fc740b4c8d3" target="_blank">see the WiaB Google Group here</a>.Â   And for more information on the ARWave client -Â  click to enlarge the poster below, see the <a href="http://arwave.org/pages/Videos.php" target="_blank">ARWave concept video here</a>, and for more, and how to get involved see <a href="http://arwave.org/new_index.php" target="_blank">arwave.org</a>.Â Â  Props to <a href="http://www.lostagain.nl/#" target="_blank">Thomas Wrobel and Bertine van Hovell</a> (posters below from demo for Software Freedom Day), Mark Evin, <a href="http://twitter.com/need2revolt" target="_blank">Davide Carnovale</a>, and <a href="http://twitter.com/kusako" target="_blank">Markus Strickler</a>, for all their hard and brilliant work on ARWave.Â  Also to <a href="http://www.jpct.net/" target="_blank">JCPT the open Android 3D engine</a> that has saved a lot of work!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ARWaveCurrentStatus1post.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5687" title="ARWaveCurrentStatus1post" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ARWaveCurrentStatus1post-212x300.png" alt="ARWaveCurrentStatus1post" width="212" height="300" /></a></p>
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<h3><strong>Social Augmented Experiences that Matter</strong></h3>
<p>My ideas on the future of social augmented experience have been deeply informed by the the conversations I had with Bruce Sterling and Anselm Hook this year.</p>
<p>Bruce  Sterling notes in the conversation below, location based social  apps like, Four Square, are interesting because they are not <strong> &#8220;urban geography like Google&#8217;s  satellite stare from above,&#8221;</strong> but  rather <strong>&#8220;groups of citizens are doing portraits  of their own region.&#8221; </strong> Augmented Reality, with its of lauded power to make the invisible visible is, of course, is the ideal tool for &#8220;citizen portraits&#8221;Â  to the next level.Â  Cory Doctorow  described to me three years ago (<a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/10/31/cory-doctorow-a-reverse-surveillance-society/" target="_blank">see here</a>) an &#8220;inverse surveillance society,&#8221; enabled by an augmented viewÂ  &#8211; &#8220;<strong>where all the data from the positional and temporal  characteristics of all the objects that we own  were in aggregate  visible and available so that we can mix and match them  remix them  understand them and have more agency in the world.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>It is very cool to go back to reread <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2007/10/31/cory-doctorow-a-reverse-surveillance-society/" target="_blank">this  conversation </a>now that it is becoming possible to build the kinds of apps Cory described, and Bruce Sterling envisioned in <strong><a href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?tid=10603&amp;ttype=2" target="_blank">Shaping Things</a></strong> (see Amazon.orgÂ  page 111).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/shapingthings.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-5689" title="shapingthings" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/shapingthings-150x150.jpg" alt="shapingthings" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
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<p>MyÂ  conversation with Bruce earlier this summer (see below) took place on the heels of <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/">are2010 &#8211; Augmented Reality Event</a>.Â Â  <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/06/06/are-2010-keynote-by-bruce-sterling-build-a-big-pie/" target="_blank">See the video of Bruce&#8217;s keynote, &#8220;Bake a BigPie,&#8221; here</a>,Â  and the <a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/08/25/are2010-keynote-by-jesse-schell-augmented-reality-will-define-the-21st-century/" target="_blank">final keynote, &#8220;Seeing,&#8221; by Jesse Schell (see video here)</a> in which Jesse riffed on AR and the man with the X-ray eyes.Â  Both these awesome talks are still fresh in my mind.Â  Bruce noted how we should pay attention to augmentations for people and situations that could really use some augmentation&#8230; and not get too fixated on the coming of AR Goggles.Â  He elaborated on this in our conversation (again full transcript below):</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Well,  itâ€™s a matter of deciding whose reality it is that youâ€™re  trying to augment.  Iâ€™m not trying to be a bleeding heart about it, but  obviously there are people in our society right now with reality that  could really use some augmentation.  They are mostly disadvantaged  people.  They are vision impaired, or maybe they have autism.  They  might be senile and just canâ€™t remember where they put their shoes.   These are people who could really use some help, right?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>So, start  with people who really need sensory or cognitive help. Before you  turn  our geeks into Superman, why donâ€™t you try turning some people who are  harmed into more functional individuals?  Then youâ€™ll be able to learn  how to do that. Then maybe you can ramp it up to these Nietzschian  heights of the superb Man With the X-ray Eyes.  Whatever.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>What will make AR interesting and useful long before and long after we see the full vision of AR eyewear manifest is its social aspects.Â  Bruce points out:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;My  argument would be that if you want people to be  more sensitive toward   certain, say, issues and problems, itâ€™s better to  find the people who   are already sensitive to those issues and  problems, and give them a   bigger stake in your augmentation system.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Say that I am really worried about public health.   Well, if I have a lot of nurses that are using my system, people who are  aware of my issues, then I could be walking around and Iâ€™ll see a lot  more tags saying, â€œThis is where he got food poisoning!â€  &#8220;In this  shooting gallery, many people have caught AIDS!â€  Or, you know,  â€œTuberculosis has been spotted over here in this building.â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>At  that point, I could simply share their knowledge and get some social  intelligence.  As opposed to trying to  amp the basements of my little  hacker-mind and drag stuff up thatâ€™s escaped my conscious attention.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Finding new ways to broker information &#8211; bring together needs with haves and different participants, empowered and disempoweredÂ  is., as Anselm discussed with me, one way to change our view of human to human, human to environment and human to civilization communication (particularly in light of thisÂ  &#8220;sobering account of how open data is used against the poor in Bangalore&#8221; that as <a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly/status/23179898934" target="_blank">@timoreilly noted</a> recently <a href="http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/open-data-empowering-the-empowered-or-effective-data-use-for-everyone/" target="_blank">OpenData Empowering the Empowered)</a>.</p>
<p>The key idea in a crisis filter, Anselm noted,Â  was to break  up the participants into different kinds, to connects wants with haves:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;There are  people who are  inÂ  situation.Â  We call them citizens.Â  And  then there  are reporters,  people who report situations back to Twitter.Â  And then there are curators, people that canvas Twitter    looking for important Tweets.Â  And then there are first responders, people who take the curating collection of responses and then act on them.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>This kind of brokerage between people acting in a curatorial role or matchmaking role with each other can be extended into and coevolve with machine assisted matching as Anselm explains.</p>
<p>It is also a vital part of creating social augmented experiences that matter.</p>
<p>One of Anselm Hook&#8217;s projects, which is called <a href="http://hook.org/" target="_blank">Angel</a> is the the most radical expression of connecting wants with haves in that the  idea is that &#8220;you have a  situation, you broadcast that  situation, and help  magically appears.Â   You donâ€™t even sign up forÂ a service.Â  You just get  help â€¦</p>
<p>As Anselm explains this is the same idea of a brokerage for dealing with emergencies, but applied to the long tail of crisis response.Â  As Anselm describes it:</p>
<p><strong><strong>&#8220;I am interested in personal crisis.Â  &#8216;I lost my cat.Â  Help.Â  I canâ€™t find </strong>where my kid is.Â  I am out of gas.Â  I have a flat tire.Â  My house is on fire.Â  My aunt is trapped in the bedroom.&#8217;Â  The kind of personal crisis    that is just as important, but is not enough to get a national  movement   to help you&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I will publish this conversation with Anselm in full in an upcoming post.</p>
<h3>Zorop &#8211; an ARG for World Peace</h3>
<p><strong><strong><span> </span></strong></strong><a href="http://libarynth.org/augmented_foraging"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></a>If you want to be part of a really exciting experiment to reimagine our relationships with each other and can be in San Jose this weekend, I highly recommend exploring <a href="http://zorop.org" target="_blank">this &#8220;rabbit hole&#8221;</a>.</p>
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<p>Thank you <a href="http://www.lightninglaboratories.com/tcw/about-2/" target="_blank">Gene Becker</a>, <a href="http://www.lightninglaboratories.com/" target="_blank">Lightning Laboratories</a> and <a href="http://ubistudio.org/" target="_blank">Ubistudio</a> for sending me this invite:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Ken  Eklund (<a href="http://twitter.com/writerguygames" target="_blank">@writerguygames</a>) is developing a wonderful game for the 01SJ  Biennial called ZOROP, aimed at creating World Peace(!). Some of you  might know Ken from his work on the amazing ARGs EVOKE and World Without  Oil. Anyway Ken, along with his collaborator Annette Mees, are  furiously working to get ZOROP ready to go for the Sept 17th premiere at  01SJ.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Are you intrigued? I thought so, and here are your next steps down the rabbit hole:</strong> <strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>&gt; Check out </strong> <strong><a href="http://zorop.org/" target="_blank">http://zorop.org</a> to learn about the game</strong></p>
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<h3><strong>Interview with Bruce Sterling</strong><strong> </strong><a name="tag1"></a></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucesterling/4671866157/in/photostream/" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5676" title="Screen shot 2010-09-16 at 7.59.56 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Screen-shot-2010-09-16-at-7.59.56-PM-300x180.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-09-16 at 7.59.56 PM" width="300" height="180" /></a></p>
<p><em>Click on image above to see video clip from</em> <em><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/brucesterling/4673885122/" target="_blank"><em>from brucesflickr</em></a></em></p>
<p>[Note the<a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2010/06/16/interview-with-bruce-sterling-part-i-at-the-9am-of-the-augmented-reality-industry-are2010/" target="_blank"> first part of this interview is here</a> and I broke in anticipation of Part 2 just as I started experimenting with an idea <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakauffman" target="_blank">Joshua Kauffman</a> &#8211; an advisor and entrepreneur working on design  in the public sphere gave me for an interview technique &#8211; the All Souls College one-word  question interview.Â  Although apparently <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/world/europe/28oxford.html" target="_blank">they recently scrapped it</a> and I am not very good to sticking to a single word!]</p>
<p><strong>Tish  Shute:</strong> We were talking about these proximity-based social work networks like Foursquare and Gowalla and how they may influence the emergence of social augmented experiences.</p>
<p>So Joshua&#8217;s suggestion for the first word was &#8220;territorialization&#8221; e.g. how do these new mobile social experiences like Foursquare,  and the observation that actually rather than breaking down territorialization &#8211; which would be a good thing, tend to support territorialization&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Yeah, theyâ€™re re-intensifying it in a very odd, electronic fashion.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Itâ€™s not true of  projection mapping or the webcam fiduciary display stuff. But with the handheld stuff, and especially the urban informatic stuff, it really canâ€™t help but take on a local flavor. <a href="http://www.layar.com/" target="_blank">Layar</a> is like &#8220;Augmented Dutch Reality.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>And <a href="http://www.tonchidot.com/" target="_blank">TonchiDot</a> is &#8220;Augmented Japanese Reality.&#8221; Itâ€™s hard to imagine a Layar interface going gangbusters at Tokyo.  Whereas the TonchiDot interface, which is so clearly influenced by Anime and cartoon graphics&#8230;. Maybe it could find some niche of hipsters in Amsterdam hash barsâ€¦</strong></p>
<p><strong>Stuff that&#8217;s socially generated by people on the ground, as with Foursquare and Gowalla, is bound to take on a regional influence. Right? It&#8217;s like the New York hipsters who were early adopters of Foursquare. They&#8217;re not mapping New York! They&#8217;re mapping Hipster New York.</strong></p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s all about Williamsburg and places where 24-year-olds go to drink&#8230; They found a demographic niche there. These guys are building the service for them. They&#8217;re people who are willing to work for Foursquare for free, because they want to wear the little king hat.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I got the far far away badge &#8216;cos I live on the Upper West Side!</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: But that&#8217;s not urban geography, right? I mean, that&#8217;s not like Google&#8217;s satellite stare from above.  That&#8217;s a group of citizens doing a portrait of their own region.  You&#8217;re going to see interesting things happen because, of course, people who use Foursquare elsewhere are going to check into New York, and they&#8217;re going to look at the &#8220;New York Foursquare.&#8221;   They&#8217;re going to be aliens who interact with Foursquare people in New York and annotate what they&#8217;re seeing.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh! Yes. Good point.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  That Foursquare community has a certain Ã©migrÃ© soul.  It&#8217;s different from the normal Ã©migrÃ© soul of simple tourists on New York. So you&#8217;re friend there is right about the territorialization.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes, Joshua Kauffman is a smart guy!  Yes I am interested to see what interesting kinds of deterritorializations proximity based social networks and the hyperlocal view of augmented reality might bring, not just the new territorializations.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: It&#8217;s not the intense kind of territorialization, like gangs putting down graffiti markers and beating people up.  It&#8217;s an inherent regional character that comes with using peer production to build your database.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> We were discussing whether AR could break down the walls between people &#8211;  people who share the same physical space but actually inhabit different territories even if they are sitting on the table next to you.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: You know, I just wrote an article for my Italian magazine column. I think I mentioned this to you &#8211; a report about ARE 2010.   I titled it, &#8220;Chicks Dig Augmented Reality.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> [laughs]</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:   There is a very heavy social element to AR, and a phone based element. So the question is: Why would a woman wear a fiducial marker? Like our <a href="http://www.metaio.com/" target="_blank">Metaio</a> speaker at ARE2010 who had a fiducial marker on her lapel pin.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right. Lisa!</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Why would a woman go out in public with her Facebook profile on her body?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Well I can think of some reasons&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: So that men will approach her, of course.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes the core of all successful social networks is always a form of dating app.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: You do it a social icebreaker.  It&#8217;s like: I&#8217;m a woman, I&#8217;m sitting here alone, and you can sort of glide by and, you know, take a snap of me.  Then you retreat and have a beer with your friends and  you work up the courage, and then you come and say, &#8220;So! Susan!  I understand you like bicycling!  And, boy, me too!&#8221; Right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> There are all kinds of social barriers between people in cities that AR might be helpful in breaking down.  An extreme example is the dilemma you actually quite often face as a New Yorker as you walk around a city.  There are people asleep on the pavement and you don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re dead or alive.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Right.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And you sort of like have this awful ethical dilemma of like, &#8220;Am I walking by someone I should be shaking by the shoulder, right, to wake them up so they don&#8217;t die, right?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Yes.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> You said in your keynote that we should pay attention to augmentations for people and situations that could really use some augmentation..</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Right. There actually is such an app in Britain right now.  I posted about it:  two Augmented Reality schemes for rubbish and hobos.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right. Yes I saw that!</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  &#8220;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from garbage and hobos.&#8221;  You don&#8217;t need to personally find out whether this hobo is worth your help.  What you need is a good way to report the hobo to a hobo check-up service.   They come in, and they look on their own database or supply a database to you, or a facial recognition unit, whatever.  The service says: &#8220;Oh, well.  That&#8217;s Fred. He&#8217;s a paranoid schizophrenic. He always sleeps in that alley. Let him be.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>The same goes for the rubbish &#8212; although I don&#8217;t want to compare rubbish to hobos.   In fact, people do go out with their AR kits and take pictures of abandoned garbage bags and broken glass.  They upload them with geolocated tags for the local garbage guys.  Guys who are sitting around doing pretty much nothing because they don&#8217;t know where the rubbish is.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And they will come out and get the rubbish! I mean, they just deputize guys to go out and follow these alerts. Right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>But nobody predicted &#8212; least of all me &#8212; that you were going to have a high-tech Augmented Reality system that consisted of removing rubbish and derelicts. Right?   But rubbish and derelicts  always go profoundly under-reported. It&#8217;s just hard to get people&#8217;s attention.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But it&#8217;s very easy to set up a system so that, if you get  ten reports on the same piece of rubbish, that&#8217;s going to work its way to the top of the stack.   That&#8217;s why I was trying to get AR people away from the romance of  the hottest app for the shiniest machine.  More toward a design stance that&#8217;s more user-centric.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Where are the actual problems about stuff that we perceive?  Stuff we can&#8217;t do anything about?   Or people whose mechanisms of perceptions are harmed. They could be doing good work, being more participative, if they didn&#8217;t, basically, walk around without their glasses on.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Well this leads well into the second word, Joshua suggested was interesting spring board &#8211; sensitivity.</p>
<p>On the one hand we can do these things for people who maybe need the augmentation because they have difficulty with one or another sense, e.g.,  their eyes are not functioning, or their ears are not functioning. But on the other hand, we can&#8217;t cross the social bridge to communicate with people who are temporarily disempowered in relation to the rest of society e.g. hobos and people who sleep on the streets of New York City.Â  And even though Augmented Reality could potentially be helpful it can even be more disempowering to the already disempowered.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Right.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> But re &#8220;sensitivity&#8221; &#8211; does augmentation increase or decrease our sensitivity?  This is a problem that Will Wright brought up [<a href="http://augmentedrealityevent.com/2010/06/14/are-2010-keynote-by-will-wright-brilliant-inspiration-for-the-augmented-reality-community/" target="_blank">see video of Will Wright&#8217;s keynote at are2010</a>], e.g, the problem of parking HUDs getting in the way of your intuitive parallel parking skills.  The Lexus that takes driving control from you when you look back, &#8216;cos it knows that you&#8217;re looking at the road, and it starts to brake. Right?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Right.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> The fact that the problem with technology is that it makes us less sensitive, right, augmentations sometimes get in our way?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  I suppose that&#8217;s true. But I&#8217;ve heard that said about practically every medium.  Especially television.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Everybody wants to blame machinery for their lack of morality.   It&#8217;s hard to top something like the Kitty Genovese killing in New York. This sort of legendary New York horror story from the 1960s. A woman is stabbed to death in public, no one does anything.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: I don&#8217;t think that our media is making us any less humane or more callous.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>All right. Oh no! I see what you&#8217;re saying. Perhaps I misrepresented what Will was suggesting by putting it that way.  The question is perhaps more how do we get the sensitivity into the technology.  Human bodies are fantastically sensitive and sensory.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Right.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>And we have these like sensitivities.  For instance, How could augmentations of reality be like a blush ? You definitely want an interaction that&#8217;s not just this data being pushed at you. But what is the data that counts, right?  Will shows a slide often of an iceberg with the tip of the iceberg which is the conscious mind.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Oh, I see.  Yeah.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> And underneath it is all the preconscious stuff that really counts, right?  Any thoughts on that?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  I did take interest in that.  Will has obviously been spending a lot of time studying cognition.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Iâ€™m not convinced that AR has got a lot to do with that.  There is certainly a trend there.  There are a lot of people who want to do body hacks and brain hacks.  I can imagine AR being used for that purpose, but it seems like a niche application.   What is the point of our accessing even more stuff thatâ€™s outside of our consciousness?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> One of the things he is talking about is game dynamics, is it?  The role of the imagination in play.  For example, he shows the high dynamic range photos that make the world magical.  Something you want to engage with playfully.  This he points out increases a sense of agency because you are encouraged to engage and to play with the world.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Well, Iâ€™m a literary guy.  Italo Calvino did a lot of writing about this.  He talked about the classics of literature.  Why do we read the classics?  Calvino said we do not read, but reread the classics.  And the reason we do that is that, at first, we read a classic book and we think, â€œBoy, this book is really good.&#8221;   Then, five years later, we read it again and we think, â€œBoy, this is a really good book, and itâ€™s got so much more in it than I thought it had when I was 18.â€  Then we read it again at 28, and itâ€™s like, â€œOK, now I really seem to understand this book, and it means something to me now that I didnâ€™t know when I was 18 and 25.â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>What you are doing through that access is learning something about yourself.  So Will is arguing is what I really need is like a better augmentation.  So that I can go in there and sop up the book all at once.  I can grab every cultural nuance in it, instead of the stuff thatâ€™s  sliding past me because Iâ€™m 18 and kind of young and hasty.  Maybe I could have certain words and phrases helpfully underlined, that are like, â€œOK, well, this part is problematic for you.â€  In some sense, thatâ€™s not allowing me to be 18.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Iâ€™m never going to have the experience of my own maturation against this text, because Iâ€™ve devoured it all in one gulp.</strong></p>
<p><strong>My argument would be that if you want people to be more sensitive toward certain, say, issues and problems, itâ€™s better to find the people who are already sensitive to those issues and problems, and give them a bigger stake in your augmentation system.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes the social augmented experiences are going to be the most valuable.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Say that I am really worried about public health.  Well, if I have a lot of nurses that are using my system, people who are aware of my issues, then I could be walking around and Iâ€™ll see a lot more tags saying, â€œThis is where he got food poisoning!â€  &#8220;In this shooting gallery, many people have caught AIDS!â€  Or, you know, â€œTuberculosis has been spotted over here in this building.â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>At that point, I could simply share their knowledge and get some social intelligence.  As opposed to trying to  amp the basements of my little hacker-mind and drag stuff up thatâ€™s escaped my conscious attention.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Interesting that seems to bring us to another kind of repetitive theme in AR,  the people tend to pigeon hole it as &#8220;merely&#8221; a visual interface.  But actually, itâ€™s the intersection, isnâ€™t it, of social intelligence and augmentation.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Well, it depends entirely on how you design the system.  If Iâ€™ve got a military augmented reality, I would expect that to be mostly about urban fighting.  Itâ€™s going to be about kicking in a door and shooting terrorists.   If I pull that helmet off my head and put that on the head of an emergency worker or a cop, Iâ€™m going to get a militarized cop or a militarized emergency worker.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Well the histories of the two great mass media of the twentieth century &#8211; TV and the atomic bomb were intertwined, and I suppose the evolution of ubiquitous media, augmented reality and urban warfare is already intertwined too.Â   So how can we encourage augmented realities to move beyond military roots that is common to much technology and into more peaceful urban realities?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Well,  itâ€™s a matter of deciding whose reality it is that youâ€™re trying to augment.  Iâ€™m not trying to be a bleeding heart about it, but obviously there are people in our society right now with reality that could really use some augmentation.  They are mostly disadvantaged people.  They are vision impaired, or maybe they have autism.  They might be senile and just canâ€™t remember where they put their shoes.  These are people who could really use some help, right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>So, start with people who really need sensory or cognitive help. Before you  turn our geeks into Superman, why donâ€™t you try turning some people who are harmed into more functional individuals?  Then youâ€™ll be able to learn how to do that. Then maybe you can ramp it up to these Nietzschian heights of the superb Man With the X-ray Eyes.  Whatever.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Did you notice that a couple of apps actually like <a href="http://www.tagwhat.com/" target="_blank">TagWhat</a> have apps geared towards people with disabilities &#8211; I haven&#8217;t had a chance to check it out.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Iâ€™m sorry, I wasnâ€™t looking at their tags.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I was discussing this with Joshua who mentioned <a href="http://www.eyewriter.org/" target="_blank">Zachary Liebermanâ€™s Eye Writer</a>, which is for people with locked-in syndrome. Do you know that?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Sure. And people appreciate that because the poor guy, heâ€™s laid up with Lou Gehrigâ€™s Disease. Now theyâ€™ve given him  a way out.  AR is like a spark of new hope that gives his life meaning. Whatâ€™s wrong with that?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah. And <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ8VMLECToQ" target="_blank">Tim Byrne using Sixth Sense</a> for Autism is interesting.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Letâ€™s consider it the other way. Letâ€™s say this graffiti writer there, instead of him being sick and weak, letâ€™s say heâ€™s an athlete.  So I want to make him into a super-human graffiti writer. I want him to run around graffiti-tagging the entire town before dawn. Is that a good idea? Do we need that? Super human, super taggers? What if heâ€™s going to spray up stencils of  Nietszche?  I kinda wonder whether the game is worth the candle.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yes I suppose it is not a great social scenario to be always augmenting the lives of the elites!  Hmm, the third single word interview question is &#8220;homophily,&#8221; and earlier were youâ€™re saying that weâ€™ve kinda got to accept this is very much part of AR &#8211; as how it works, because hyperlocal experiences gets created by local communities &#8211; that up to know have tended to be homophilies.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, I think thatâ€™s easily handled with some design thinking. You&#8217;ve got to do some user observation and show some sympathy with the user, and to be aware that youâ€™re designing for the user and youâ€™re not designing for yourself.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In a field as young as this, itâ€™s mostly geeks building cool stuff for geeks. In a lot of ways, itâ€™s a â€œcan you top thisâ€ contest. Thatâ€™s OK, but itâ€™s not good design to be your own client all the time. Itâ€™s like writing novels to amuse yourself, or sitting on the porch singing the blues on your own guitar with only yourself to hear.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What will it take for AR mature out of this &#8220;geeks building cool stuff for geeks&#8221; phase do you think?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Itâ€™s necessary to master some of the tools first.  I think of the way the web has developed over the years. When the World Wide Web first appeared, it was just for physicists, and was all line commands and quite unstable and difficult. Then you got usability studies, and things like Ajax and so forth. Itâ€™s a very painstaking thing.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Weâ€™re not best at  building interfaces for the best computer scientists.  Web 2.0 was built from things like watching people cry while they were trying to fill out insurance forms. â€œWell, why are you so upset?â€</strong></p>
<p><strong>â€œWell, I got to the end of the webpage, and then it said I took too long, and it cut me off and now I have to start all over!â€ <a href="http://blog.jjg.net/" target="_blank">Jesse James Garrett</a>, right? Benefactor of mankind.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If youâ€™re experienced, you think:  â€œWhy donâ€™t I build a little module here, and kind of move the form over here, then Iâ€™ll periodically update it with some asynchronous Java and XTML.â€ And people are like, â€œGee, how odd.â€ But that really works for real people. It comes from studying what people want to do.  Whereas, the current AR approach to a problem like the insurance form would be like, â€œI will give you the ability to record the entire insurance form, and it will flash before your eyes!â€    OK great, thatâ€™s a cool hack, but I donâ€™t really need X-Ray Eyes to fill out my insurance form. What I need is a more user friendly interface.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Well it seems like we are moving into the terrain of Joshua&#8217;s fifth word &#8220;ventilation,&#8221; &#8211; if I understand it rightly &#8211; it is at least partially the antidote to territorialization because itâ€™s this idea that a place needs air so we come out of our hermetically sealed boxes of the way we relate to a place and what kind of augmentation would bring more oxygen to that space.</p>
<p>There was an interesting moment in the Auggies because when <a href="http://twitter.com/dutchcowboy" target="_blank">Maarten Lens-FitzGerald</a> presented the guerrilla shopping Layar and basically Mark Billinghurst and Jessie Schell who spoke first didn&#8217;t seem too impressed. They didnâ€™t want to walk to shopping &#8211; that was what web shopping did, it saved us from walking to shop&#8230; but I felt, to me you picked up on something which might have some bearing on &#8220;ventilation&#8221; in that this AR shopping Layar was kind of squatting Prada &#8211; a favela chic AR shopping thing?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: I wasnâ€™t sure if I was interpreting what Maarten had in mind by that.  But I think Maarten sees his structure accurately as an experience thing rather than a mapping thing. I think heâ€™s proudest of things like the Berlin Wall app on Layar, as opposed to Layars that help you go get a hamburger. Itâ€™s like&#8230;so when Layar inserts parasitic augmented shopping over other peopleâ€™s  real shopping? That was rather a subversive thing.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I think the key there is that his client is called &#8220;Hostage T-shirts,&#8221; right? I mean itâ€™s actually kind of a transgressive little hippy T-shirt store that Layar can dump anywhere in the world. Layered right over, say, Versace and Prada.  I donâ€™t know what becomes of that effort. And Iâ€™m not sure about the term â€œventilation,â€ because thatâ€™s a term of art I havenâ€™t heard much.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Maybe it&#8217;s like in a cafe.  Ventilation would mean we were able to communicate with all these different categories of people that we normally would be unable to connect to, even though we might be sitting only a few feet apart.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:   So it means ventilation in the bottles of our homophilies.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thatâ€™s not a personal problem for me.  I commonly live in foreign cities and, you know, and spend a helluva lot of time talking to strangers at conferences. So I donâ€™t think Iâ€™d have that particular tight little social island problem.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Of the three judges at the Auggies, you seemed most enthusiastic about the Layar entry.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: It may be theyâ€™re not as familiar with the business models of locative AR as I am, and as Maarten is. It was kind of a subtle in-joke he was making about Layarâ€™s own business model there.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>How do you explain that?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, you know, Layar&#8217;s in the business of  selling software to make mapping and urban structures into ecommerce.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The ideal way to do that obviously would be to move the richest customers into the most expensive shops in the most rapid way possible. Or at least distribute them in the directions they want to go, a la Google. Whereas this app that Maarten was talking about puts big barnacles in the way that are selling punk t-shirts.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right! Right!</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:   The Dutch are a bit subtle in their humor.  I rather imagine thereâ€™s a lot of discussion in Layarâ€™s inner circle about exactly what they want developers to do with their platform. Theyâ€™re going to have considerable political difficulty deciding who can have a Layar key and how you discipline people when they start doing weird stuff. &#8220;The Oakland Medical Marijuana layar.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Well, finding nudists is one of the top layars at the moment.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: You know, obviously so. And finding narcotics in Amsterdam, or a prostitution layer.  I warned them nine months ago this was bound to happen. Iâ€™m sure theyâ€™re aware of it.  I don&#8217;t think Layar wants Googleâ€™s style of cool, technocratic detachment.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> But thatâ€™s pretty difficult to do in current augmented reality because we donâ€™t have all the mathematical voodoo for full on AR search yet, do we?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, you can hire it out. Somebodyâ€™s going to do it, if they get interested enough.  Thereâ€™s Nokia-Yahoo. Nokia-Yahoo! just did a big corporate deal&#8230;involving Nokiaâ€™s mapping system and Yahooâ€™s localization. So the Nokia-Yahoo! mash-up is called Nooo!   Or could be called Yahno. Yakia!  Unfortunately ridiculous names.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Itâ€™s interesting because you mentioned the spidersâ€™ mating problem at Google. Theyâ€™ve got all the pieces to make this kind of level of AR obviously right now. But they actually havenâ€™t done it yet.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: There must be at least some discussion in Google, but the same goes for Microsoft. Iâ€™m frankly baffled by Microsoft, because itâ€™s just full of insanely brilliant people. What the hell are they doing in there? Name one serious innovation thatâ€™s come out of their labs in five years. They make Integral Research look dynamic. Itâ€™s really kind of sad.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Itâ€™s a very curious situation with AR though, because AR more than any new technology relies on these big hordes of data particularly for the mapping, right? And only the big four have the data &#8211; although we are beginning to see upstarts, Earth Mine, Simple Geo&#8230; Did you get a chance to meet Di-Ann Eisnor  from <a href="http://www.waze.com/homepage/" target="_blank">Waze &#8211; real-time maps and traffic information based on the wisdom of the crowd</a>.Â  Waze is a very interesting project that is a potential giant killer.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: No, I didnâ€™t talk to them.  Iâ€™ve seen people speculate that Earthmine and Apple are going to make an allegiance. I guess if youâ€™re thinking that urban informatic mapping is a super big thing for AR, that must be true.   But Iâ€™m not convinced thatâ€™s necessarily the case. People have pointed out that you can just use Google Maps, and you donâ€™t have to walk around with a little visor.  There are other aspects of AR besides the cell phone space. Thereâ€™s Total Immersion&#8217;s big display screens. Thereâ€™s the web-based fiduciary stuff. And thereâ€™s projection mapping. And then thereâ€™s experience design just for people who need their reality augmented for whatever personal or social reason. [dog barking]</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Right. Oh, Iâ€™m in the middleâ€¦ My sonâ€™s come. What a good hair cut!</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Hi, there.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tishâ€™s Son</strong>: Hi.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Howâ€™s it going, sir? Good to see youâ€¦</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tishâ€™s Son:</strong> Good.</p>
<p><strong>Tish:</strong> [laughs]</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Yeah. Nice looking shirt. I like the back of it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Thatâ€™s from the American Shaolin Temple. [laughs<strong>]</strong></p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: All</strong> right. Awesome. Kung Fu geek shirt.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yup he is a bit of Kung Fu Geek. He and his dad did an iPhone app on it for Yu-Gi-Oh, for Yu-Gi-Oh scoring.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Awesome. Plenty of PokÃ©mon-style combat in Yu-Gi-Oh.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah. Well, itâ€™s interesting because youâ€™ve talked about this aspect. That all of this, the PokÃ©mon aspect of AR hasnâ€™t kicked in yet. But itâ€™s obviously a match made in heaven to some degree, isnâ€™t it?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: One would think so, yeah.  The whole little kid gaming thing. What does that have to do with Google or Bing? You donâ€™t need a massive database for stuff like that.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yeah, youâ€™re right. But good tracking, mapping and registration requires a lot of mapping&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, our current tracking, mapping and registration requires that. Maybe thereâ€™s some other way to hack it that we donâ€™t know about yet.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Thatâ€™s a very interesting point. We always have to stretch the way we think about mappingâ€¦ perhaps its a real-time understanding of the location youâ€™re in&#8230;perhaps the map is being negotiated through several social processes?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: There are maps, and then there are maps. Thereâ€™s a kind of artillery map where you need to know the precise location of target spaces. And then thereâ€™s the kind of social map where Iâ€™m really looking for the IN-N-OUT Burger where my sister went last Tuesday. Thatâ€™s a different  system.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And I think AR, at the moment, weâ€™re getting the most out of the social maps certainly. And the other [machine   perception  technologies to detect  the identity and physical    configuration of  objects relative to each  other to accurately  project   information  alongside/overlaid with a physical object] is still kind of the big dream, isnâ€™t it?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: They say that men never ask for directions and women never read maps. Clearly, the genders have different ways of navigating the world. Whoâ€™s to say what manner of augmenting our experiences is hottest?  Iâ€™m not convinced that todayâ€™s rather rigid geolocativity is really what our society wants from that particular service. Maybe what we want is something more folksy.   Some useful nudge in the right direction as opposed to grids with 200 meters here and instructions to turn such-and-such.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Besides, thereâ€™s other hacks we havenâ€™t considered.  Weâ€™re very dependent on GPS, but just suppose all those satellites are blown out of the sky in a solar storm. Would we really want to give up mapping? Wouldnâ€™t we just come up with some other nifty hack?  Radio beacons, letâ€™s just say. Atomic clock timers in towns. Or maybe just little QR codes on lampposts that give you the exact location of that lamppost, and just click the thing and have it calculate where you are.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yes the <a href="http://thenexthope.org/" target="_blank">NextHope</a> <a href="http://thenexthope.org/2010/07/hackable-badge-accessory-kits-available/" target="_blank">OpenAMD project</a> had a clever way of triangulating location indoors.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, GPS is there and people all want to use it. Itâ€™s got good API, so of course you want to. And the guys who are good at doing it are real geolocative freaks. But the mere fact that we can do it this way, and that you can make it pay, doesnâ€™t mean that itâ€™s the ultimate way to provide that service to people.  Itâ€™s like saying that Egyptian hieroglyphics must be the greatest way to write,  because weâ€™ve got a lot of them and theyâ€™re hard to learn. What if somebody comes along with an alphabet? Itâ€™s going to be a little embarrassing.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Yeah, thatâ€™s a very good point. Now, this is a more simple ordinary question about the event. <a href="http://www.ydreams.com/#/en/homepage/" target="_blank">YDreams</a> went off the map in the Auggie voting, and walked away with The Auggies. No one doubted that that was the mostâ€¦</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: I donâ€™t know. I thought those <a href="http://occipital.com/blog/" target="_blank">Occipital</a> guys with the panoramic painting&#8230;. That was hairy. I would have been tempted to give them the prize myself, actually.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And what did you like best about that? Because I agree. I love <strong><a href="http://occipital.com/blog/" target="_blank">Occipital</a></strong>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Screen-shot-2010-09-17-at-6.20.58-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5704" title="Screen shot 2010-09-17 at 6.20.58 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Screen-shot-2010-09-17-at-6.20.58-PM-300x41.png" alt="Screen shot 2010-09-17 at 6.20.58 PM" width="300" height="41" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: I thought it was a more technically difficult stunt than the hand registration thing.  Using a hand as a 3-D cursor is hot, but  not like painting a panorama in 3-D in real time.  That was an impressive technical feat.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>And they hinted at the 2.1.1 AR, more AR version of that. What do you see coming out of that as possibilities?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, Iâ€™d heard of <a href="http://www.ydreams.com/#/en/homepage/" target="_blank">YDreams</a>, so I wasnâ€™t stunned. But Iâ€™d never heard of those guys. I wonder what else the heck theyâ€™ve got in the att</strong>ic.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> very cool stuff&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, more power to them. But clearly YDreams was the popular favorite. And who couldnâ€™t like it? It was just so AR.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute</strong>: It was so AR and so gorgeous.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: It was pretty, actually.Â  Except for their ugly menu button and poor font choice.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh, yes. You didnâ€™t like that, did you? [laughs] But with the Occipital panorama, what do you see the next stage of that?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Well, obviously quicker and faster. Quicker and faster and more accurate in a network. Letâ€™s just say Iâ€™m in New York and youâ€™re in New York and Iâ€™m calling you for help. And you say where are you?  I just whirl around like this and I mail it to you on a Google Wave. And you whirl around like that, and then we compare the two panoramas and do an instant triangulation. And you say: Iâ€™m over here on this red dot of your screen.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Yeah, exactly.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Weâ€™re navigating with panoramas by having two connected panoramas and considering the difference.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong> Yeah, very interesting&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Not shabby, right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Not shabby at all.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: If you could do it in real time.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Then the other thing I missed because I was going to meet Will was I missed the Launch Pad competition. Did you catch that?</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: I didnâ€™t see it either. I thought of another app though.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh!</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Youâ€™ve got a panorama maker in your home office, and it just scans the office 24 hours 365 and tags anything that moves, right? OK, whereâ€™s the clipboard?Â  At 8:15 it was over here.  Now itâ€™s vanished. Now another object is viewed over here. So, logically, ping, you hit it with a sticky light and there it is, right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh,  that&#8217;s cool also knowing what has changed in any environment would be a big enabler for a lot of AR visions.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling:  Iâ€™m sure there are many other things you could do with panoramas.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> My jet lag is beginning to kick in big time &#8211; so many ideas to pursue from are2010 &#8211; those panoramas are very exciting though.</p>
<p><strong>Bruce Sterling: Oh, well, itâ€™s all right.  We can augment reality!   Iâ€™ve got three heads and six hands!</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mobile social communication is beginning to take center stage as the internet moves to real time communications. The recent explosion of interest in augmented reality is part of a wider concern to orchestrate a new landscape of contextually relevant information linked to location/place/time and mobile social connectedness. The picture above, &#8220;Having an iphone has completely [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">Mobile social communication is beginning to take center stage as the internet moves to real time communications</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">. </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">The recent explosion of interest in augmented reality is part of a wider concern to orchestrate a new landscape of </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">contextually relevant information linked to location/place/time and mobile social connectedness.</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">The picture above, &#8220;Having an iphone has completely changed the way I poop,&#8221; is a slide from </span><a href="http://www.ideo.com/thinking/voice/gentry-underwood" target="_blank">Gentry Underwood&#8217;s</a> <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">workshop at <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo, NYC</a>, <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/public/schedule/detail/10638" target="_blank">&#8220;Social Interaction Design a Primer.&#8221;</a><br />
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<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">Last month, I attendedÂ  three events starting with<a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/category/events/13/" target="_blank"> MoMo #13</a>, Amsterdam, where I presented on, <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/tish-shute-the-next-wave-of-ar/" target="_blank">&#8220;The Next Wave of AR: Mobile Social Interaction, Right Here, Right Now!</a>.Â  Then I caught the last two days of the <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/" target="_blank">Web 2.0 Expo, NYC</a>, and finally, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/real-time-crunchup-sf/" target="_blank">Real Time Crunchup SF</a> (which I watched online). </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">New forms of real time mobile, social connectedness were central themes on all three occasions. </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">But, in terms of doing stuff that matters with mobile real time technologies, at the moment, we are still at the &#8220;hello world&#8221; demonstration</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> (see my conversation below with <a href="http://dashes.com/anil/" target="_blank">Anil Dash</a> and <a href="http://www.markdrapeau.com/" target="_blank">Mark Drapeau</a> at Web 2.0 Expo below).</span> <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">As Anil Dash noted,Â  <strong>&#8220;</strong></span><strong><span id="uz2e" title="Click to view full content">I think everybody starts with a train schedule&#8230;&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><strong><span id="ljc1" title="Click to view full content">&#8220;I remember five years ago when Adrian did Chicagocrime.org. It was a revelation but I mean, that was five years ago.Â  And people still keep making that app over and over.&#8221; </span></strong><br />
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<p><span id="yvdi" title="Click to view full content">Anil Dash</span> announced at the Web 2.0 Expo that he will be the director of <a href="http://www.expertlabs.org/">Expert Labs</a>, a new nonprofit that will take the dot-com incubator model and apply it to new digital tools for the federal government:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;For me, in starting Expert Labs it&#8217;s been great just to tap into the desire people have to help and serve and to take the idea that you can work for your country without having to work for your government. What can you do to participate?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> The Gov 2.0 movement is attracting the best and the brightest, if you need inspiration check out <a href="http://public.resource.org/" target="_blank">Carl Malamud&#8217;</a>s <a href="http://www.gov2summit.com/" target="_blank">Gov 2.0 Summit</a> presentation, <a href="http://gov2summit.blip.tv/file/2605719/" target="_blank">By the People&#8230;.</a>.Â Â  <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/jenpahlka/" target="_blank">Jennifer Pahlka</a> is leaving her long time post as co-chair of Web 2.0 events for TechWeb to concentrate on <a href="http://codeforamerica.org/" target="_blank">Code for America</a>. </span>And <a href="http://www.markdrapeau.com/about/" target="_blank">Mark Drapeau</a> is co-chair of the <a href="http://www.gov2expo.com/gov2expo2010" target="_blank">Government 2.0 Expo</a> next May, that Oâ€™Reilly and TechWeb are also producing.Â  You can submit ideas about Gov 2.0, ICT, and cities (or other topics) to the upcoming <a href="http://gov2expo.com" target="_blank">Gov 2.0 Expo</a>.Â  Mark says he will welcome them! Note there is a <a href="http://en.oreilly.com/gov2fall09" target="_blank">Free Gov 2.0 Online conf.</a> Thursday, Dec. 10th</p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> Tim O&#8217;Reilly has committed to Gov 2.0 work and &#8220;doing stuff that matters&#8221; with missionary zeal (see his </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">keynote Web 2.o Expo, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRC8nfZ67M&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=2" target="_blank">War for the Web)</a></span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">.Â Â  Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s talk, also the article,Â  <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/11/the-war-for-the-web.html" target="_blank">War for the Web</a>, are a stark reminder of how the centralization and privatization of large parts of </span>our communications infrastructure<span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> threatens the open web.Â  But &#8220;doing stuff that matters,&#8221; as it turns out,Â  is one of the best ways to win the war for the open web. </span></p>
<h3>&#8220;Level playing Fields, Open access, Open APIs, Controlling our data, being able to move with it&#8221; (Anil Dash)</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-9.08.04-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4934" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 9.08.04 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-9.08.04-PM-300x184.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 9.08.04 PM" width="300" height="184" /></a></p>
<p><em>Slide above from Anil Dash&#8217;s presentation at the Web 2.0 Expo, NYC, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOlKfbE97ok&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=9" target="_blank">&#8220;Listening to the Experts&#8221;</a></em></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">T</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">he Gov 2.0 movement is still in the idea and initiative phase</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">, but the</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> ideals and scope of the movement are a natural antidote to the fox in the social network chicken coop business model du jour (see the <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/02/zynga-takes-steps-to-remove-scams-from-games/" target="_blank">latest antics of Zynga</a>).<br />
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<p><span title="Click to view full content">Anil Dash notes the intrinsic bond between Gov 2.0 work and the open web:<br />
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<p><strong>&#8220;Because government has an inclination to creating openness by its nature. Right?Â  We donâ€™t have an entirely toll system of federal highways in the states. We understand that the broadcast airwaves are a public good. And so government is inclined to think about creating public goods. It would be ridiculous to spend tax payer dollars on funding proprietary platforms.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/globespotting/archives/2009/12/the_power_of_go.html" target="_blank">The Power of Government as a Platform</a> for citizen involvement is just beginning to emerge from initiatives like Data.govÂ  &#8220;a collection of federal data housed on the www.data.gov <a href="http://www.data.gov/">Web site</a> thatâ€™s open to public access.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the most challenging aspects of creating in context mobile applications that do stuff that matters is the data curation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">Sean White</a>, explained to me <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/10/24/ismar-2009-an-augmented-reality-top-chef-coopetition/" target="_blank">at ISMAR 2009</a>, the challenges of data curation behind this beautiful example of augmented reality doing something that matters (pic below) -Â  a pollution meter, that â€œshows carbon monoxide levels projected over New York City.Â  The height of each ball reflects concentrations of the pollutantâ€ (developed at Columbia University Graphics and User Interface Lab where <a href="http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/%7Efeiner/" target="_blank">Steven Feiner</a> is Director).Â  Note Sean White and Steven Feiner will be at <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=AR_DevCamp_interest_list" target="_blank">AR DevCamp NYC</a> this weekend at <a title="http://openplans.org/contact/" rel="nofollow" href="http://openplans.org/contact/">The Open Planning Project office (TOPP)</a> &#8211; see below for more information.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-2.32.05-PM1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4925" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 2.32.05 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-2.32.05-PM1-300x214.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 2.32.05 PM" width="300" height="214" /></a></p>
<h3>Open Data combined with Open Architectures of Participation are a Powerful Combination.</h3>
<p>Scott Yates commented in his <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-25758-Google-Wave-Examiner~y2009m11d20-Google-Wave-may-be-the-future-but-the-future-is-not-Real-Time" target="_blank">very insightful post </a>on <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"><a href="http://realtimecrunchupsf241.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">RT Crunchup SF</a> that</span> a &#8220;literny of fixes&#8221; for a broken web were &#8220;presented asÂ  the state of the art&#8221;Â  in a <strong>&#8220;series of presentations from companies that have solutions that fix some subset of all the long list of annoyances&#8221;</strong> (annoyances arising from finding data and friends locked into a variety of different walled gardens).</p>
<p>And, Scott Yates writes:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;There have been presentations from companies who hope to be the future of socially connected communications, but not one of them has the economic or intellectual heft to be considered a true vision for the future.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>If you have been following my recent posts, you will already know that I agree with Scott Yates when he concludes:<strong> &#8220;Wave really has an opportunity to fix so much of what is broken in communications.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>I have been working on<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/TishShute/the-next-wave-of-ar-mobile-social-interaction-right-here-right-now-2542526" target="_blank"> a project to create an open distributed augmented reality/mobile social communications framework based on the Wave Federation Protocol.</a></p>
<p>This <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page" target="_blank">Saturday Dec 5th there will be AR DevCamps held in Mountain View, New York City, Wave and Skype. </a> There will be sessions on many aspects of open augmented reality, including Wave enabled AR.</p>
<h3>AR DevCamp</h3>
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<p>I will attend <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=NYC_ardevcamp" target="_blank">AR DevCampNYC </a>at the NYC location, <a title="http://openplans.org/contact/" rel="nofollow" href="http://openplans.org/contact/">The Open Planning Project office (TOPP)</a> penthouse in Manhattan.Â  This will be an awesome opportunity to meet some of the key augmented reality thought leaders and innovators, including <a href="http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~swhite/" target="_blank">Sean White</a>, <a href="http://graphics.cs.columbia.edu/top.html" target="_blank">Steven Feiner</a>,Â  <a href="http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~henderso/" target="_blank">Steve Henderson,</a> and many others (see the sign up <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=AR_DevCamp_interest_list" target="_blank">list here</a>).Â  <a href="http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~ohan/" target="_blank">Ohan Oda</a> will demo the <a href="http://graphics.cs.columbia.edu/projects/goblin/" target="_blank">open Goblin XNA platform</a>. Â  Thomas Wrobel will answer questions on writing AR Blips to PygoWave Servers and Sophia Parafina <a href="http://twitter.com/spara" target="_blank">(@spara</a>), Joe Lamantia <a title="http://joelamantia.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://joelamantia.com/">(@mojoe</a>) and I will be on hand to discuss the open distributed framework for AR project -Â  <a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/10/13/ar-wave-layers-and-channels-of-social-augmented-experiences/" target="_blank">Wave enabled AR</a>. Â  The <a href="http://pygowave.net/blog/" target="_blank">PyGoWave crew</a> will participate via skype (they will be introducing some of their latest work ).Â  Ori Inbar of <a href="http://ogmento.com/" target="_blank">Ogmento</a> and <a href="http://gamesalfresco.com/" target="_blank">Games Alfresco</a> will lead a brainstorming session on the &#8220;Big AR NY Game&#8221;: The first location-based, social, augmented reality game designed for New York by New Yorkers.</p>
<p>We will continue the interesting discussion led by Marco Neumann (<a href="http://twitter.com/Neumarcx" target="_blank">@neumarcx </a>) on the Semantic Web and Augmented Reality at the <a href="http://semweb.meetup.com/25/calendar/11819773/" target="_blank">Semantic Web Meetup</a>.Â  <a href="http://www.tacticaltransparency.com/my_weblog/author-bios.html" target="_blank">John C. Havens</a> will introduce the <a href="http://outernetguidelinesinitiative.pbworks.com/" target="_blank">Outernet Guidelines Initiative</a>.Â  And <a href="http://www.mattsnod.com/" target="_blank">Matthew Snodgrass</a> <a title="http://www.twitter.com/mattsnod" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.twitter.com/mattsnod">@mattsnod</a>, <a title="http://www.lippetaylor.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lippetaylor.com/">Lippe Taylor</a> will lead a session on the future implications of AR.Â  <a title="Noah Zerkin (page does not exist)" href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=Noah_Zerkin&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1">Noah Zerkin</a>,  will share his brilliant work on AR software and hardware interfaces and exploring the idea of an AROS.Â  And <a href="http://www.maploser.com/?page_id=6" target="_blank">Kate Chapman</a>, from Washington, DC,Â  <a href="http://twitter.com/wonderchook" target="_blank">@wonderchook</a>, and a bevy of local NYC geo geniuses, including organizer Sophia Parafina (<a href="http://twitter.com/spara" target="_blank">@spara</a> ), will explore ways to visualize government data through AR.Â  I am hoping we will have some projects for the upcoming Gov 2.0 Expo at <a href="http://gov2expo.com/">http://gov2expo.com</a>.</p>
<p>And there will be much, much more &#8211; <a href="http://www.ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=NYC_ardevcamp" target="_blank">keep checking and adding to the wiki.</a> See you there!</p>
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<h3>&#8220;Hacking Human Behavior Within a City&#8221;</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-7.47.46-PM.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4931" title="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 7.47.46 PM" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Screen-shot-2009-12-02-at-7.47.46-PM-300x227.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-12-02 at 7.47.46 PM" width="300" height="227" /></a></p>
<p><em>Picture from inspiring cities.org -shows some <a href="http://www.inspiringcities.org/index.php?id=395&amp;page_type=Article&amp;id_article=18826" target="_blank">Amsterdam bicycle trends</a><br />
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<p>At Web 2.0 Expo, <a href="http://www.ideo.com/thinking/voice/gentry-underwood" target="_blank">Gentry Underwood</a>,<a href="http://www.ideo.com/thinking/voice/gentry-underwood" target="_blank"> IDEO</a>, gave <span title="Click to view full content">a great presentation on </span>how software changes community and communities change software<span title="Click to view full content"> from an ethnographic perspective &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPbzdcZBl6M&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=19" target="_blank">&#8220;Designing Web 2.0: Here Come the Anthropologists.&#8221;</a></span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">And Baratunde Thurston&#8217;s,</span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyqKPcfx64&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=A0D433518BDA7856&amp;index=0" target="_blank">&#8220;There&#8217;s a #hashtag for That</a>, was an<span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">inspired, brilliant romp through the </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">&#8220;mini-grass roots movements&#8221; of hashtags </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">- </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">which are &#8220;quickly assembled/demolished malleable fun!&#8221; or &#8220;great ways to mess with people,&#8221; </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">that reminded us the power of grass roots movements when it comes to &#8220;hacking human behavior.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">But my visit to <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/category/talks/" target="_blank">MoMo #13</a> preceeding the Web 2.0 Expo showed me clearly &#8220;hacking human behavior within a city&#8221; is on home turf in Amsterdam, where smart phones and bicycles are the vehicles for the </span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">MoMoesque lifestyle</span><span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content">.<br />
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<p>Thanks to the foresight and generosity of the MoMo organizers, who make sure that the experience ofÂ  the speakers together goes beyond the few hours of the event, I had a three day, three night intensive on the future of mobile social interaction &#8211; living, thinking, and breathing mobile social connectedness, often into the wee hours, with Dennis Crowley, CEO of <a href="http://www.foursquare.com/" target="_blank">FourSquare</a> (see <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/dennis-crowley-foursquare/" target="_blank">his great MoMo 13 presentation here</a>), Ted Morgan, SkyHook (<a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/talks/ted-morgan-location-makes-mobile-mobile/" target="_blank">a must see presentation on what SkyHook is doing with data</a>), the MoMo crew, and many of Amsterdam&#8217;s enthusiastic Four Square community.Â <span id="sp:r" title="Click to view full content"> </span></p>
<p>And yes, Four Square really is an awesome way to enjoy a city and meet new people.Â  MIA in this particular pic are key MoMo organizers -Â  <a href="http://twitter.com/samWarnaars" target="_blank">@samwarnaars</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/MdBraber" target="_blank">@mdbraber</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/vanGeest" target="_blank">@vangeest</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/foursquare-polaroid.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4885" title="foursquare-polaroid" src="http://www.ugotrade.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/foursquare-polaroid-300x224.jpg" alt="foursquare-polaroid" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p>But what do fun times in Amsterdam and FourSquare have to do with doing stuff that matters?</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/marcfonteijn" target="_blank">Marc Fonteijn,</a> MoMo chair and co-founder of <a href="http://www.31v.nl/" target="_blank">31Volts</a> points out:<strong> &#8220;foursquare looks and feels like a game but what it&#8217;s actually doing is changing behavior in a playful way&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And <a href="http://twitter.com/vanGeest" target="_blank">Yuri van Geest</a>, who co-founded not only <a href="http://www.mobilemonday.nl/" target="_blank">Mobile Monday Amsterdam</a> but also <a href="http://www.tedxamsterdam.nl/" target="_blank">TEDx Amsterdam,</a> added:</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>in Holland we are working on using the FourSquare API for mHealth purposes also we see that smart venue owners reward all mayors/lead users/visitors with free meals/drinks/privileges/perks etc. and smart advertisers to boost their co-marketing deals based on FourSquare targeting capabilities of key influencers&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Dennis Crowley, seemingly immune to lack of sleep and jet lag, followed up his MoMo #13 talk with <a href="http://www.web2expo.com/webexny2009/public/schedule/detail/11589" target="_blank">a presentation at Web 2.0 Expo</a>.Â Â  I was sitting just behind Mark Drapeau, and I managed to catch up with Mark after Dennis&#8217; talk.</p>
<p>Mark listed Foursquare in his big takeaways from the Web 2.0 Expo, pointing out the potential new forms of mobile social interaction have for &#8220;hacking human behavior within a city.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I had always been a little leery of trying FourSquare because I have a certain level of privacy I try to keep up. But listening to the CEO of Foursquare talk about it&#8230; I knew what it was. I have friends that use it.. but thinking about it as hacking human behavior within a city and social engineering of peoplesâ€™ behavior and what they can do, and really understanding what citizens are doing within cities, or other areas, and how they interact with each other. Â  I think could be incredibly valuable for government 2.0 and government understanding people better.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And Anil Dash concurred:</p>
<p><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"><strong>&#8220;I think Foursquare is a good model in terms of having a game dynamic, being mobile from its default, having a great social experience, leveraging existing networks like Twitter and Facebook instead of trying to compete with them by building their own. I think those are all really, really smart leanings. </strong></span></p>
<p><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"><strong>I think about if I were a government agency trying to meet those same goals, could I earn badges in Foursquare by doing things that help my community. Right? So when I volunteer at a soup kitchen is that one way to earn an exclusive badge? Is that going to earn me a discount at the bar? Those are all dynamics that we can set up very, very easily and I think that model&#8230;maybe it is a public-private partnership. Thatâ€™d be great.&#8221;<br />
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<h3>Talking with Mark Drapeau and Anil Dash</h3>
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<p><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Tish</strong></span><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content"><strong> Shute:</strong> I was in Amste</span><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content">rdam speaking at MoMo</span><span id="v6ni" title="Click to view full content">#13 and I had a lot of fun hanging out with the MoMo crew and Dennis, CEO of Four Square.Â  I got to meet people and hang outÂ  with Amsterdam&#8217;s new Four Square community. But unfortunately I missed the first two days of Web 2.0 Expo.</span></p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> I got here yesterday too. Yeah. So some big takeaways.</p>
<p>I had always been a little leery of trying FourSquare because I have a certain level of privacy I try to keep up. But listening to the CEO of Foursquare talk about it&#8230; I knew what it was. I have friends that use it but thinking about it as hacking human behavior within a city and social engineering of peoplesâ€™ behavior and what they can do, and really understanding what citizens are doing within cities, or other areas, and how they interact with each other, I think that could be incredibly valuable for government 2.0 and government understanding people better.</p>
<p>Also I really wanted to hear Tim Oâ€™Reilly interview Beth Noveck. I thought the most interesting thing about the interview were the questions and not the answers (also see<a href="http://markdrapeau.posterous.com/white-house-deputy-cto-beth-noveck-wants-more" target="_blank"> Mark&#8217;s Posterous</a> <span id="beie" title="Click to view full content">).Â  I thought a lot of the answers were disappointing and political and vague.</span></p>
<p><span id="beie" title="Click to view full content"> But I thought Tim really got some important issues about how do people in the web 2.0 community, the audience of Web 2 Expo, interact in reality when you have a system that we nicknamed Gucci Gulch, where you have lobbyists and lawyers and special interest and councils and all these things that&#8230;developers and app builders are not really a part of.Â  So how do you break in?Â  I didnâ€™t really hear good answers for that.</span></p>
<p>I really liked the presentation by the IBM researcher, if I can get his name. Forgive me. Ching Yun-Lin. Talking about putting a value on how many friends you have, how many connections you have and the fact that IBM can actually put a monetary value on the number of connections you have to managers. The number of email accounts you have in your inbox. Or your address book.</p>
<p>I thought that was just fascinating and thatâ€™s something Iâ€™m very passionate about is social networking for the sake of social networking and not merely for collaboration but making connections among diverse communities and using that to help your business or help your government agency.Â  Those are my big takeaways this morning.<br />
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<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I was lucky enough to attend Gov 2.0 Summit.Â  I think a lot very important areas for Gov 2.0 were defined there, transparency, open data, getting developers into the public sector loop, and citizen-government interaction.Â  In what areas are we seeing progress and where are we stymied and why?Â  How do you see this Web 2.0 community connecting to the ideals and plans for action of Gov 2.0?<br />
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<strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> I think thereâ€™s a lot of unanswered questions about Government 2.0 because thereâ€™s a lot of good talk and a lot of good ideas and initiatives but thereâ€™s still a long way to go before people in this audience, in this community who want to help the government or be a part of policy making or technology in the government can really in a meaningful way, interact with the government processes that, for the most part, are not going away. </span></p>
<p><span id="nw6g" title="Click to view full content">And the people that are also part of the system, like giant contractors, theyâ€™re not going away. Thereâ€™s a place for everyone. The question is how do the smaller people break in and I donâ€™t think there are really great answers for that.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What is the plan for the next Government 2.0 event?</p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> So part of the reason Iâ€™m here is to learn and be inspired as the co-chair of the Government 2.0 Expo next May that Oâ€™Reilly and TechWeb are also producing. And so thereâ€™s increasingly at the Web 2.0 events that they host, there are technologies and people relevant to government missions, or the public sector missions.</p>
<p>And so I think some of the speakers here will carry over in different ways to the Gov 2 Expo in May.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Is the call for proposals for the Gov 2.0 Expo still open?</p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> Thereâ€™s still an open call for proposals. Or people, if they know me they can talk to me directly.</p>
<p>(<a id="dtf7" title="Anil Dash" href="http://dashes.com/anil/" target="_blank">Anil Dash</a> arrives and Mark introducesÂ  me (Anil and I met briefly at Gov 2.0 Summit) &#8211; see Anil&#8217;s post, <a id="btc0" title="New York City is the Future of the Web" href="http://dashes.com/anil/2009/11/new-york-city-is-the-future-of-the-web.html" target="_blank">New York City is the Future of the Web</a> I do agree but, of course, NYC is my hometown!).</p>
<p><span id="yvdi" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Anil you are moving into Gov 2.0 work full time now after being a key thought leader in Web 2.0. </span></p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash:</strong> My perspective is probably unique in that I am very strongly from the Web 2.0 world, and new to the Gov 2.0 world and I think it&#8217;s telling that you can make the leap. I think that the profound thing is that these worlds are converging and it&#8217;s not where it was.</p>
<p>Five years ago the government technology was a bike with the training wheels on it. It was very much somebody&#8217;s old hacked up version of Drupel and crossed fingers.Â  And it looked a little homely and you thought, &#8220;well this looks like a run down office kind of thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we have have institutions that have wonderful physical presences. You can&#8217;t stand in front of the Capital Building or the White House or Supreme Court and not say &#8220;that&#8217;s a majestic building.&#8221; We should have online institutions that reflect the scope and the scale of what they do.</p>
<p>For me, in starting Expert Labs it&#8217;s been great just to tap into the desire people have to help and serve and to take the idea that you can work for your country without having to work for your government. What can you do to participate?</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> You and Mark had very interesting journeysÂ  into Gov 2.0 didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p><strong><span id="b7qr" title="Click to view full content">Mark Drapeau</span></strong><span id="jhqo4" title="Click to view full content"><strong>:</strong> </span><span id="z4dm" title="Click to view full content">Like the Hunter S. Thomson of Government 2.0<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> I like that!</span></p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash:</strong><span id="g68:" title="Click to view full content"> Can you say that about yourself?</span></p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> I did the other night and people seemed to buy it, so</p>
<p><span id="lepm" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="q1.v" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="jm87" title="Click to view full content"> People were feeling it..</span></p>
<p><span id="wezg" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau: </strong></span><span id="g80v" title="Click to view full content">That&#8217;s right!</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> And even if it&#8217;s controversial it&#8217;s good too!Â  I see Mark (and perhaps I am wrong with these characterizations) as coming to this via an interest in the social narratives of government and, Anil, you have come to Gov 2.0 work, as you point out, from a deep immersion in the cultures of technology and Web 2.0&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash:</strong> And it&#8217;s also a little bit, I&#8217;ve had the privilege of seeing blogs and social media develop from the start and what I learned from it is cultural change and [not just] technology change. This is the same thing happening in government.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re calling it Government 2.0 and it makes it seem like it&#8217;s a version upgrade and it&#8217;s a software thing but it&#8217;s cultural change. And the interesting thing is many of the key players have a willingness to go through that cultural change, which means that the technology, therefore, has the opportunity to succeed.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> What did you think about Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s keynote and the warning he gave re the open web?<br />
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Anil Dash: </strong>The war for the web! He&#8217;s absolutely right. Honestly, before Expert Labs had started and I&#8217;d come on board, my initial plan for a talk at this event was exactly the topics Tim covered in the War for the Web.Â  That the centralization of vast parts of our communications infrastructure around privately owned, venture funded companies is a risk to innovation in some ways.</p>
<p>We have to make sure to set up our incentives for those companies, the Facebooks and Googles and Twitters of the world, to align with what our goals are as a society, as a culture, as entrepreneurs, and all those other goals.</p>
<p>So I think it&#8217;s good to have a voice like Tim&#8217;s articulating that threat and that danger so that we can respond to it. I agree completely that we are in the next phase of the battle between open and closed platforms that we went through ten years ago with AOL.</p>
<p>There was a time when AOL dominated more of the dial up internet, one-third of all dial-up users in the US were coming through AOL. People now say &#8220;oh, the iPhone is dominant.&#8221; The iPhone has 2 percent market share of all phones or something like that, and yet people are doing all their innovation on their platform.</p>
<p>Well, people used to do all their innovation on AOL&#8217;s platform and then they ended up having to rewrite it all for the open web.</p>
<p>This pattern is going to repeat. The choice is whether people want to encourage it or fight it or hope it goes away and ultimately there&#8217;s no great business that was built entirely within the walls of AOL&#8217;s garden. I doubt there will be a great business built entirely within the walls of Apple&#8217;s or Facebook&#8217;s or anyone else&#8217;s garden.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say those companies couldn&#8217;t evolve to be open, I hope they do, but as it stands right now you would be foolish to bet your business either from a promotional standpoint, from a start-up standpoint, from a new technology standpoint, on any closed platform that you don&#8217;t control.</p>
<p><span id="fgxq" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> I was mentioning to Mark that I thought itâ€™s sort of ironic that we now understand how important the architecture of participation of the internet can be to government just as we are on the verge of another big battle to keep the web open&#8230;, a moment when walled gardens are seeming to dominate..will this be an obstacle for Gov 2.0?</span></p>
<p><span id="e55e" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="lsod" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="gus9" title="Click to view full content"> No I think actually theyâ€™ll get to skip the closed era. </span></p>
<p><span id="gus9" title="Click to view full content">You know I look at the rather famous example in India of never having landlines. They went directly to satellite phones, skipped directly to the wireless generation so they never had an old infrastructure to rip out. </span></p>
<p><span id="gus9" title="Click to view full content">I think you are going to see the same thing with government tech adoption is they are going to start in the era of recognizing the threat of closed platforms and move directly to open platforms.</span></p>
<p>Because government has an inclination to creating openness by its nature. Right? We donâ€™t have an entirely toll system of federal highways in the states. We understand that the broadcast airwaves are a public good. And so government is inclined to think about creating public goods. It would be ridiculous to spend tax payer dollars on funding proprietary platforms.</p>
<p><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong> Universal accessibility for citizens.</p>
<p><span id="zsxt" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="m9vw" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="ij6p" title="Click to view full content">Right. Itâ€™s a fundamental tenant of government and we have an incredible history including the Internet itself, of embracing open standards to solve government problems in a way that helps all of society.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> So people who have championed open participatory architecture of the internet and open source approaches now have even is more incentive to team up with government 2.0!</p>
<p><span id="pfgt" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="tlow" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="zkrl" title="Click to view full content"> Yeah it is an advantage. But also, I mean candidly, open source is almost incidental to it. I mean I think we have come to the point where open source is assumed as some element of any new tech venture. It is much more about level playing fields, open access, open APIs, controlling our data, being able to move with it, that I think is key.</span></p>
<p><span id="zkrl" title="Click to view full content"> And I go back to that AOL example, there was a moment where they opened their email gateways to standard Internet email. And so instead of the AOL users only being able to email each other, they could email anybody on the web and this is the moment in which all the value was created. You start to have email marketing companies, and open exchanges and open mailing lists happen when anybody could email anybody else, that is the sort of thing that government catalyzed just by being the example.<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> Mark talked about Four Square and how that could be really interesting as part of a Gov 2.0 project. But mobile has followed a course with many complications re an architectural participation &#8211; I am thinking about the control exerted by the carriers and now Apple for example?</span></p>
<p><span id="c1o7" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="yttq" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="v3kw" title="Click to view full content">No, I think it has revealed complications that have always been there. Right? Thereâ€™s always been multiple platforms. There have always been user agents and web browsers that have different capabilities. There has always been a digital divide. Mobile is making clear that those realities existed. </span></p>
<p><span id="v3kw" title="Click to view full content">But I keep saying this, like, I think if I am designing an application today, you design for mobile first, for a number of reasons. One, the digital divide is much less pronounced on mobile devices. Two, you are much more likely to have an experience that scales well from a small device to a larger one than vice versa. Three, you are able to target international markets or other developing markets where mobile is the default computer platform. And you become aware of constraints in bandwidth, in accessibility, in user experience, in general experience with computers, that a lot of people in the technology industry just completely ignore.</span></p>
<p><span id="v3kw" title="Click to view full content"> And you know you go to Silicon Valley and people think itâ€™s normal to have a six hundred dollar phone that has a thousand dollar a year data plan. And without blinking they designed for devices like that. Itâ€™s myopic and ridiculous to think that people can live with that level of privilege all the time on all the devices that they have and that they have a brand new computer. And so that will be its own undoing.</span></p>
<p>Right? Itâ€™s the people that are thinking about open platforms and working with any device and I think FourSquare candidly is doing a good job of this because they did start with the assumption of iPhones and this thing but their initial target audience of hipsters in the east village probably did have those. But now they have an open API, anybody can access it, thatâ€™s the right evolution. And I think theyâ€™re smart enough, that was always on their plan.</p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> But in terms of mobile social interaction we basically have really a structure all of lots of different wall gardens?</p>
<p><span id="mq8x" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="kdmb" title="Click to view full content">: For now..</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>How do you see mobile developing more interoperability and social interaction capabilities?</p>
<p><span id="v8r9" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash: </strong>By using the web. I think it doesnâ€™t have to be full-fledged Ajax-y, html applications on the phone. But if we simply rely on the capabilities of the web as it stands today instead of developing for proprietary mobile platforms we can make a lot of amazing things happen. Itâ€™s a good constraint. We should embrace our constraints.</span></p>
<p>Itâ€™s not conventional wisdom yet that mobile applications should be developed for the web. But thatâ€™ll change in the next year.<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> There is a lot of exciting new real time technologies coming to the Web, Pubhubsubbub, Google Wave Federation Protocol. How will these change mobile development?</p>
<p><span id="a_s9" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash:</strong></span><span id="yhh6" title="Click to view full content"> RSS cloud. I mean there&#8217;s a ton of real time technologies that are coming out together.<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> What are your favorites in the real time area?<br />
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<span id="ygnk" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash:</strong></span><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content"> I wrote a post about this .. called <a href="http://dashes.com/anil/2009/07/the-pushbutton-web-realtime-becomes-real.html" target="_blank">The Push-Button Web</a> where I actually go into this&#8230;</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute:</strong> Oh yes great post!</p>
<p><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash:</strong> I donâ€™t pick a favorite. I think all of them together will work. I think itâ€™s similar to how the web itself evolved. </span></p>
<p><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content">We have a tangle of different related technologies that get abstracted away when you use a browser. You donâ€™t know if itâ€™s a gif image or a jpeg image when you browse a page. You just know itâ€™s showing an image in line. </span></p>
<p><span id="vb:n" title="Click to view full content">I think weâ€™re going to see the same thing happen to real time web. Weâ€™re going to very, very quickly settle into a stack of technologies that let us do real time. As a developer you might have to be aware of the subtle differences. As a user your experience is going to be, â€œI have real time and it works on whatever device Iâ€™m on.â€<br />
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Tish Shute:</strong> Mobile seems like a vital part of government 2.0 because it can connect people and their government to their context/public infrastructure/environment that is a shared concern. The open data movement has shown that being able to mash up data and get that delivered in context is a very powerful kind of technology for government 2.0. Right?<br />
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<span id="ztwv" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="f.f4" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="uz2e" title="Click to view full content">I donâ€™t know. I think thatâ€™s there&#8217;s just been the â€œhello worldâ€ demonstration. I think everybody starts with a train schedule&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span id="tb43" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="vri0" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="flw7" title="Click to view full content"> I was just going to say that everyone is starting with the very low hanging fruit. The transportation, the crime. Itâ€™s not exactly clear where itâ€™s going to go but I think itâ€™ll go â€“<br />
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<p><strong>Anil Dash</strong><span id="qr2v" title="Click to view full content">: </span><span id="ljc1" title="Click to view full content">I remember five years when Adrian did Chicagocrime.org. It was a revelation but I mean, that was five years ago. And people still keep making that app over and over. </span></p>
<p><span id="ljc1" title="Click to view full content">I remember at the time I had just become friends with Craig Newmark and I said, â€œCraigâ€™s List should show the crime around the neighborhoods where you have an apartment listing.â€ And he said, â€œWell, if I do that then neighbourhoods that are getting better, that h</span><span id="suj7" title="Click to view full content">istorically had more crime, will never improve because people wonâ€™t rent apartments there.â€ And he came back with that answer immediately as soon as I suggested the idea and revealed one, why Craigâ€™s List is the success that it is. But two, what the implications are of releasing data and having to think about the social implications of that.<br />
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<span id="jhqo" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="qmcp" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="m9uw" title="Click to view full content"> Well, itâ€™s like Gentry from IDEO said that, â€œSocial software changes the community, which changes the software.â€</span></p>
<p><strong>Anil Dash</strong><span id="fvyu" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="kcdl" title="Click to view full content"> Right. Exactly. We have to think about the social implications of the tools and technology we create. </span></p>
<p><span id="kcdl" title="Click to view full content">That means that the reason&#8230;one of the reasons we have only had these, frankly, unambitious obvious applications of open data is because the people that have had access thus far have been people that are not socially oriented. Like geeks are very inwardly focused.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute: </strong>Oh. Okay. Well Markâ€™s changing this..</p>
<p><span id="uef0" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="jq7v" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="njzb" title="Click to view full content"> Theyâ€™re in a very insular community.</span></p>
<p><span id="wbkn" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="lv6c" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="lgf8" title="Click to view full content"> I think thereâ€™s a number of people that are trying to change that.</span></p>
<p><span id="l4kk" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="ods7" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="f69t" title="Click to view full content"> Yeah. Itâ€™s starting to change but Iâ€™m saying thatâ€™s why weâ€™ve seen that symptom in the past.<br />
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<span id="sen2" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau</strong></span><span id="r9db" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="ib01" title="Click to view full content"> I get a lot of mileage out of the fact that Iâ€™m neither sort of a career govie type thatâ€™s getting into the 2.0 stuff. Nor am I a lifelong techie whoâ€™s getting into the government and stuff. Iâ€™m sort of&#8230;Iâ€™m interested in these anthropological, psychological, animal behavioral, ecological questions about human behavior and networking. And thatâ€™s where I kind of come into this.<br />
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<span id="bjr:" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="m5em" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="xkxg" title="Click to view full content"> And I think weâ€™re going to need an ethnographic approach to looking at how people work with this data in their real lives. People are using this data already and donâ€™t realize it. You know, when we grab a map in an unfamiliar city youâ€™re using government data. We just donâ€™t think of those behaviors as doing so, and we need to understand that to build applications that really solve peopleâ€™s problems.</span></p>
<p><strong>Tish Shute</strong><span id="w5nn" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="x9qz" title="Click to view full content"> So can you speculate on the next generation youâ€™d like to see?</span></p>
<p><span id="eh9w" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="k1av" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"> I think Foursquare is a good model in terms of having a game dynamic, being mobile from its default, having a great social experience, leveraging existing networks like Twitter and Facebook instead of trying to compete with them by building their own.</span></p>
<p><span id="ivk8" title="Click to view full content"> I think those are all really, really smart leanings. I think about if I were a government agency trying to meet those same goals, could I earn badges in Foursquare by doing things that help my community. Right? So when I volunteer at a soup kitchen is that one way to earn an exclusive badge?Â  Is that going to earn me a discount at the bar?Â  Those are all dynamics that we can set up very, very easily and I think that model&#8230;maybe it is a public-private partnership. Thatâ€™d be great.<br />
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Mark Drapeau:</strong> Or even doing things to help your internal community. Key people at work or within your agency or things like that. From my vantage point it does seem like local Government 2.0 types are thinking much more about mobile than the Federal government types. The reality is government employees all have BlackBerries and theyâ€™re running around all the time. But theyâ€™re in terms of government 2.0 type stuff theyâ€™re thinking about the Dell desktop they have and the Microsoft Windows system and whenever I mention something like mobile or pervasive videos&#8230;..people arenâ€™t really there. Theyâ€™re worried about cyber security on the traditional systems. Theyâ€™re worried about desktop applications on a Dell.</span></p>
<p><span id="vtzh" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Anil Dash</strong></span><span id="r1u4" title="Click to view full content">:</span><span id="zpwe" title="Click to view full content"> Theyâ€™re still five years ago.</span></p>
<p><span id="xl-x" title="Click to view full content"><strong>Mark Drapeau:</strong></span><span id="z-b4" title="Click to view full content"> Yeah. Theyâ€™re still five years ago and so I think these kind of Oâ€™Reilly-Tech Web events, Gov 2.0 Expo, Web 2.0 Expo, etc., are really starting to get at these questions that are now and not five years ago.</span></p>
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